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Barry Manilow
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Do you have a link buddy? I'd love to check it out.
Hey Mr. Woodsman!
I want to caution you, in my limited experience it's really easy to overdry and crisp your watercured buds. They will dry EXTREMELY quickly, nothing like normal buds. If possible I'd not use the oven, just keep them on a screen in a dark room temp place.
My suggestion is to dry them until they are still somewhat moist and then jar them. No matter what you do they're going to end up pretty dry, but I don't like them crispy.
I was looking back through the thread at your Bubba Kush, do you know where you got the seed?
Mine doesn't look anything like yours, seed was from Green House. She doesn't look like any of my other plants. She's stunning.
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Water Curing, nice! 
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Your last sentence surely applies to me!
Glad you liked the BK. It is dry now and just needed some more 'open' time. She was the 'last plant standing' and is just starting (noticed it last night in fact) to have a distinct smell and 'taste' (cause I couldn't resist).
The Mazar is not as tasty as some of my smokes, but it does get me very high. My particular Mazar is an F1, consisting of about 3/4 Mazar i Sherif crossed with around 1/4 Skunk#1. It's supposed to have some limited taste you'd think. We'll see what she tastes like in another month or so.
In Afghanistan, cannabis is grown for hashish only (not talking about the hemp). I could be wrong as I am dating myself and my information back many years, it may be that now a days they aren't exclusively producing hash, but it never was the case before. I could only hope that the hashish I'll make from my Mazar will taste similar to what I used to get many years ago while living in the area back in the seventies. Though Afghani or Nepalese hashish was not available most of the time, when they did suddenly appear on the streets, it was a wonderful treat. Not saying that the North African or Lebanese hashish that was the norm was a slouch, just a nice change.
Awesome looking Bubba Kush my friend! The leaves are just like mine when it was young (veg). I had either topped mine or supercrossed it to give it a little more 'body' (don't remember which process I used on her). I got the seeds from a friend and not sure where they got it from though it is a Bubba Kush.
Ha ha! Well Blue I did end up drying it perhaps 'too much', though I am very very pleased with the result! I was going to make a separate post concerning this.
Water Curing, nice!
G, Joe, Blue and Climate, thanks for your comments and links, Joe thank you for that 'mini' report on the BK! Climate nice to have ya here!
Water Cure. Up next!
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I just lost my entire water cure post so I'll try again!
ChicagoJoe
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HOLY fuck batman.
I totally misread your post...
and thought you lost your entire water cure
Man, I am looking back on the haze of smoke that was last week and I'm thinking:
1. I smoked way too much pot
2. I mixed the highs by smoking diff herb too close together to write useful reports
3. I'm totally starting another grow - getting the old cab dialed in with some new features
4. I LOVE the hickory pipe
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Water Cure
Alright so I've finished with the whole thing and you ask, " How the f@$@^k did it turn out?
First off, concerning 'drying it too much', I did, but not an issue since it is now cured (just did a 'water cure') and as long as I keep it in jars, it won't get crumbly like it would in a baggie.
Initially wanted to do as Lavendar suggested, using a fan to dry it rather than the oven. Couldn't find anything to use like a screen or such and needing to 'get it done' 'now', well, the oven it was!
Prep
Strained the water out of the jars one at a time to not confuse me as to what is what.
*Suggest you write down what strain is going to what pan and revise it as need be.
Rinse the buds with fresh water and drain
Preheat oven to lowest setting possible. Our old oven dial has 140 as the lowest written temp, but there was plenty of room below it on the dial. I was able to pick up and hold the pans with my hands without burning them.
Placed the three different strains (bagweed's 1A, 1B and #2) onto three different surfaces. I used what I could find, one was a low sided oven pan (rectangular), another was a round oven 'pizza' pan with holes (great) and the last one was a screen/lid for a frying pan (used on top of a frying pan so oil doesn't splatter around)
Oven Drying
Placed them into the oven using both oven racks ( I later change their positions around when one was drying faster than others )
Placed small fan on the opened oven door and faced it into the oven. It was as far from the elements as possible. I would recommend NOT having your wife or girlfriend at home when doing this as this may be hazardous to your health. In my case the wife went to visit friends.
Do not smoke too much indica at this point of the operation since falling asleep on the couch is not advisable. Check often for safety reasons and to see if you need to move the pans around as you'll find that certain areas of your oven are warmer than others (the door's open and the fans going). It took me about 4-5 hours from the time the stuff went into the oven till it was all dry. My three different strains all dried at different times and depended on what they were sitting on and where in the oven they were.. Took them out when the stems cracked. I did not want to leave them moist at all as that would have involved WORK with more drying the normal way. Remember, I've just water cured them, there is no need to cure them again in the conventional way. That would be like cooking your food twice. LOL
Conclusion
Buds:
They come out very dark in color with the leaves turning almost black and the calyxes turning a nice medium brown. There is no 'green' left that I can see unless the 'black' of the leaves is really a very dark green.
They are tight and dry and do not crumble in my hands. More 'hard' than crumbly.
They have a feint smell to them that is vaguely reminiscent of their original smell (after a reg cure).
So how do they rate as far as smokeability?
Rolled a joint of 1B and #2 (pink lady)
Tried 1B first and after two hits and 1/2 hour later I finally noticed the thing stuck to my fingers! About an hour after this very very strong 'up high' that rivaled if not exceeded the original 1B, I couldn't help myself and rolled the #2 bagweed into a joint and at some point that I don't remember too well, got even higher.
The taste is also vaguely reminiscent of the originals though only at about 20%. There is absolutely no bad residues left in the buds. I popped some in a bowl and ended up with the cleanest looking and whitest ash I've seen. Light as dust and white as snow. It crumbled when I looked at it! LOL
I would give both of them both a 9 for potency and that's only because I don't know how much more potent is possible. It was almost as though I had never smoked either one of the bagweeds before and was trying them for the first time. Know what I mean? A new smoke
So instead of having a loss of up to six ounces of prime weed (to mold), I gained three 'new' strains! Or it seems that way at least, different tastes/smell, different highs (seems like). So from seven different 'highs' to ten! In one week!.
Obviously from my experience the water cure worked and worked very very well. I did mine with a a little peroxide to get rid of my mold spores and it sure did (no visible signs of mold after 24 hours), normally you'd just use water. For those of you who are doing it to fix a 'non flushed' product or one that does not taste good etc.,go ahead, it's not hard at all. I just looked up the 'how to's', on the net and got great advise from some of my friends and ended up with some very potent smoke that burns to a white ash so you know it's pure!. From moldy to pure and very potent in one week!
Seems to me that you don't need to have a reason to water cure and is a viable option for any one at anytime. Try it, water cure a small portion of your next crop. It will be like you have a different strain to smoke. It will now be a very viable option in any future grow, whether it's for more variety or to fix a problem.
Pics
Here are some pics to compare the Water Cured buds to my partially Cured Bubba Kush (another couple of weeks perhaps)
Green buds are the Bubba Kush and the darker buds, the water cured Bagweed 1A.
Thanks for checking my stuff out! As always, your comments and suggestions are welcome!
Alright so I've finished with the whole thing and you ask, " How the f@$@^k did it turn out?
First off, concerning 'drying it too much', I did, but not an issue since it is now cured (just did a 'water cure') and as long as I keep it in jars, it won't get crumbly like it would in a baggie.
Initially wanted to do as Lavendar suggested, using a fan to dry it rather than the oven. Couldn't find anything to use like a screen or such and needing to 'get it done' 'now', well, the oven it was!
Prep
Strained the water out of the jars one at a time to not confuse me as to what is what.
*Suggest you write down what strain is going to what pan and revise it as need be.
Rinse the buds with fresh water and drain
Preheat oven to lowest setting possible. Our old oven dial has 140 as the lowest written temp, but there was plenty of room below it on the dial. I was able to pick up and hold the pans with my hands without burning them.
Placed the three different strains (bagweed's 1A, 1B and #2) onto three different surfaces. I used what I could find, one was a low sided oven pan (rectangular), another was a round oven 'pizza' pan with holes (great) and the last one was a screen/lid for a frying pan (used on top of a frying pan so oil doesn't splatter around)
Oven Drying
Placed them into the oven using both oven racks ( I later change their positions around when one was drying faster than others )
Placed small fan on the opened oven door and faced it into the oven. It was as far from the elements as possible. I would recommend NOT having your wife or girlfriend at home when doing this as this may be hazardous to your health. In my case the wife went to visit friends.
Do not smoke too much indica at this point of the operation since falling asleep on the couch is not advisable. Check often for safety reasons and to see if you need to move the pans around as you'll find that certain areas of your oven are warmer than others (the door's open and the fans going). It took me about 4-5 hours from the time the stuff went into the oven till it was all dry. My three different strains all dried at different times and depended on what they were sitting on and where in the oven they were.. Took them out when the stems cracked. I did not want to leave them moist at all as that would have involved WORK with more drying the normal way. Remember, I've just water cured them, there is no need to cure them again in the conventional way. That would be like cooking your food twice. LOL
Conclusion
Buds:
They come out very dark in color with the leaves turning almost black and the calyxes turning a nice medium brown. There is no 'green' left that I can see unless the 'black' of the leaves is really a very dark green.
They are tight and dry and do not crumble in my hands. More 'hard' than crumbly.
They have a feint smell to them that is vaguely reminiscent of their original smell (after a reg cure).
So how do they rate as far as smokeability?
Rolled a joint of 1B and #2 (pink lady)
Tried 1B first and after two hits and 1/2 hour later I finally noticed the thing stuck to my fingers! About an hour after this very very strong 'up high' that rivaled if not exceeded the original 1B, I couldn't help myself and rolled the #2 bagweed into a joint and at some point that I don't remember too well, got even higher.
The taste is also vaguely reminiscent of the originals though only at about 20%. There is absolutely no bad residues left in the buds. I popped some in a bowl and ended up with the cleanest looking and whitest ash I've seen. Light as dust and white as snow. It crumbled when I looked at it! LOL
I would give both of them both a 9 for potency and that's only because I don't know how much more potent is possible. It was almost as though I had never smoked either one of the bagweeds before and was trying them for the first time. Know what I mean? A new smoke
So instead of having a loss of up to six ounces of prime weed (to mold), I gained three 'new' strains! Or it seems that way at least, different tastes/smell, different highs (seems like). So from seven different 'highs' to ten! In one week!.
Obviously from my experience the water cure worked and worked very very well. I did mine with a a little peroxide to get rid of my mold spores and it sure did (no visible signs of mold after 24 hours), normally you'd just use water. For those of you who are doing it to fix a 'non flushed' product or one that does not taste good etc.,go ahead, it's not hard at all. I just looked up the 'how to's', on the net and got great advise from some of my friends and ended up with some very potent smoke that burns to a white ash so you know it's pure!. From moldy to pure and very potent in one week!
Seems to me that you don't need to have a reason to water cure and is a viable option for any one at anytime. Try it, water cure a small portion of your next crop. It will be like you have a different strain to smoke. It will now be a very viable option in any future grow, whether it's for more variety or to fix a problem.
Pics
Here are some pics to compare the Water Cured buds to my partially Cured Bubba Kush (another couple of weeks perhaps)
Green buds are the Bubba Kush and the darker buds, the water cured Bagweed 1A.
Thanks for checking my stuff out! As always, your comments and suggestions are welcome!
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Sorry for scaring you my friend! I can see how that could be read like that.
I always smoke to much lately! LOL
I also smoke too many at the same time to give an accurate report!
Glad to hear your going to start a grow up! Will you do a journal this time?Enjoy your gift my friend! Glad your using it and not just looking at it!
Trying to post some more pics......................
G-Dog
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Hey Woodsman, thanks for the story.
When I read about water cures it said to:
1. Put fresh bud in clean water (It suggested distilled or something like that). Room Temperature
2. You have to weigh the bud down so it will sink.
3. You change the water every day. First day the water is green. It gets less green every day for a week.
4. Last day you take it out and hang it to dry. (they did not say to use an oven).
It was supposed to take away all the smell after a week and not even smell when you smoked it. It got very dark and in the pictures it looked fluffier than than the buds that cured the normal way. It weighed less than if it was cured conventionally. Apparently more of the veg matter is washed away and therefore the weed is stronger.
Anyway, it is nice you got another variety or two to throw into you stash.
When I read about water cures it said to:
1. Put fresh bud in clean water (It suggested distilled or something like that). Room Temperature
2. You have to weigh the bud down so it will sink.
3. You change the water every day. First day the water is green. It gets less green every day for a week.
4. Last day you take it out and hang it to dry. (they did not say to use an oven).
It was supposed to take away all the smell after a week and not even smell when you smoked it. It got very dark and in the pictures it looked fluffier than than the buds that cured the normal way. It weighed less than if it was cured conventionally. Apparently more of the veg matter is washed away and therefore the weed is stronger.
Anyway, it is nice you got another variety or two to throw into you stash.
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Pics
Just caught this bandit as I'm loading the pics! Is she trying to 'lift' my Happy Frog?
Hickory pipe and scissor hash
Just caught this bandit as I'm loading the pics! Is she trying to 'lift' my Happy Frog?
Hickory pipe and scissor hash
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Well G, the day that I follow directions will be a momentous one for me!
I did vary slightly..... I did not weigh the buds down. I filled the jars to overflow and then sealed them. I did change the water every night with distilled water for one week and I 'really' wanted to dry them with a fan and screen, but no screen. The taste and smell is now very minimal (like I said about 20% of what it used to be) They dried very 'tight' and are very very potent and no mold. I'm very happy that I didn't follow some of the advise and throw the whole lot away or make hash (moldy hash) with it. I had nothing to lose and it payed off!
Barry Manilow
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So glad it worked out for you Woodsman, I've been extremely pleased with the results and it's been my strongest smoke.
They say the water is green at first? Maybe it's from the mold but all of my water after 24 hrs is nasty looking.... brown and bubbly. Sometimes day 2 is like that too. I think they look cool black like that. My last cure was done in pretty cool (55 or so) temps and it took 10 days and the buds never did lose their green.
I should probably try to do something to my bubba kush like LST her, but I can't bring myself to do it. I'm just going to grow her out and see what happens. She's incredible looking.
my friend!
They say the water is green at first? Maybe it's from the mold but all of my water after 24 hrs is nasty looking.... brown and bubbly. Sometimes day 2 is like that too. I think they look cool black like that. My last cure was done in pretty cool (55 or so) temps and it took 10 days and the buds never did lose their green.
I should probably try to do something to my bubba kush like LST her, but I can't bring myself to do it. I'm just going to grow her out and see what happens. She's incredible looking.
my friend!
Here To Learn
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Woodsman, It is nice to see your bountiful harvest. Congratulations. As to water curing I have done it twice. If you refer to my journals I believe I showed water curing at one point or another. I cured a batch of water cured buds in Tupperware for a couple of months and sampled along the way. I did notice an increase in potency. I have only done a large amount once and would have to do it again to begin verifying this phenomenon. I have just skimmed the end of your journal as I have been away for some time. I will try to read back further into your journal as I can. Btw nice looking pipes
I have just skimmed the end of your journal as I have been away for some time. I will try to read back further into your journal as I can. Btw nice looking pipes- Thread starter
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So glad it worked out for you Woodsman, I've been extremely pleased with the results and it's been my strongest smoke.
They say the water is green at first? Maybe it's from the mold but all of my water after 24 hrs is nasty looking.... brown and bubbly. Sometimes day 2 is like that too. I think they look cool black like that. My last cure was done in pretty cool (55 or so) temps and it took 10 days and the buds never did lose their green.
I should probably try to do something to my bubba kush like LST her, but I can't bring myself to do it. I'm just going to grow her out and see what happens. She's incredible looking.
Your Bubba Kush is a real beauty and as such I wouldn't let her out of the house till she's at least 32 and happy to be an old maid!
Did you use the peroxide in yours? Mine was bubbly the first day from the peroxide in fact I learned not to move it around too much with peroxide in it! Blew the top right off one of the jars and bent another lid. LOL! Mine was greenish/brown and If I had any enemies over for dinner, I'd a put some of jar water in their soup.
Mine doesn't taste bad at all, in fact like I mentioned back a few posts, it's like having a completely different strain of cannabis, three different strains that is, I've got three different Bagweeds. I'd describe them like ...having a light flavor, sweet in fact, very smooth. Not sure what it smells like to others when burned.
My wife always tells me (she's the only one that I can ask) that it smells like crap, It always does, no matter how wonderful it may smell to me. Sometimes she says it smell like a skunk. At that I'm like all excited and everything 'cause I'd like to have weed that smelled like a skunk! But alas! She just means that it smells 'bad' to her. My wife is like a recently 'kicked the habit' smoker. She detests anything that has to do with it! We talked about it the other night. She's afraid to smoke because she say's the last few times she smoked, she got very feint and almost passed out (she say's ?). Then she tells me that at the same time that this happened, she had been taking a medication ( don't remember which one) for pain (prescription strength). I told her the reaction may have caused her to feel that way...dizzy and lightheaded then sick in the stomach.. Who knows, she became afraid to smoke anymore and gave it up (last year, the year before?).
Woodsman, It is nice to see your bountiful harvest. Congratulations. As to water curing I have done it twice. If you refer to my journals I believe I showed water curing at one point or another. I cured a batch of water cured buds in Tupperware for a couple of months and sampled along the way. I did notice an increase in potency. I have only done a large amount once and would have to do it again to begin verifying this phenomenon.
If you have to read the whole journal, we'll probably see you sometime next year! LOL
Thank you for the kind words my friend and an honor to have you with us! I'm just no good at directions (all the cures) if it involves too much fussing about. I like shortcuts where I can and innovate when able! This time I lucked out and made it work. What I've heard about the improved potency in water cured bud has to do with the ratio of trichomes to plant material. Much more of the plant material is lost in the process and the trichomes are untouched so it's like having 'hairy' looking buds rather than just nicely triched out buddage. One would need to reduce the amount taken in to equal the same amount in regular cured bud.
Nice to see ya around HTL
Elbee
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Wow Woodsman, I just got caught up, great job. Wonderful looking harvest you have there! I'm glad you were able to get them all in and fix your moldy problems.
I just finished with a water cure today. I done mine because I didn't flush long enough(I guess?) and had some harsh bud. I used distilled water for 8 days and pretty much followed the guidelines set out above. I haven't tried any of the finished stuff yet, but the stuff I sampled 2 day ago was pretty much exactly how you described yours. Right now it's drying in a food dehydrator set on 95deg., so we'll see how it turns out.
From start to finish, again Woodsman You've really kicked ass this year!
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I just finished with a water cure today. I done mine because I didn't flush long enough(I guess?) and had some harsh bud. I used distilled water for 8 days and pretty much followed the guidelines set out above. I haven't tried any of the finished stuff yet, but the stuff I sampled 2 day ago was pretty much exactly how you described yours. Right now it's drying in a food dehydrator set on 95deg., so we'll see how it turns out.
From start to finish, again Woodsman
You've really kicked ass this year!#
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Wow Woodsman, I just got caught up, great job. Wonderful looking harvest you have there! I'm glad you were able to get them all in and fix your moldy problems.
I just finished with a water cure today. I done mine because I didn't flush long enough(I guess?) and had some harsh bud. I used distilled water for 8 days and pretty much followed the guidelines set out above. I haven't tried any of the finished stuff yet, but the stuff I sampled 2 day ago was pretty much exactly how you described yours. Right now it's drying in a food dehydrator set on 95deg., so we'll see how it turns out.
From start to finish, again Woodsman
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Thank you my friend and I'll bet your buds turned out terrific also! With that dehydrator you've got it made!
ChicagoJoe
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wowza, those pics of the jars all stacked up are really impressive.
I was impressed with all the different tastes and highs, but I'm even more excited to try the water cured buds. I don't know for sure if I ever tried it.
What color are the stems?
Do remember the story I told you about the black colored grand daddy purple with the light beige stems? I think that stuff was water cured.
Yes, I will post a journal of the grow.
Right now I'm dialing in the cab. I added a veg chamber.
Peace brother, wanna get the kids together for another play date?
Have you tried the vape?
Have you tried the screen?
I was impressed with all the different tastes and highs, but I'm even more excited to try the water cured buds. I don't know for sure if I ever tried it.
What color are the stems?
Do remember the story I told you about the black colored grand daddy purple with the light beige stems? I think that stuff was water cured.
Yes, I will post a journal of the grow.
Right now I'm dialing in the cab. I added a veg chamber.
Peace brother, wanna get the kids together for another play date?
Have you tried the vape?
Have you tried the screen?
Hypo Hippy
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Hi woods,
i water cured some WW and bubbilicious,both came out like you said stronger and very little smell and taste. Thanks to who ever reveiled this .
HH
i water cured some WW and bubbilicious,both came out like you said stronger and very little smell and taste. Thanks to who ever reveiled this .
HH
G-Dog
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I am sorry if I was coming off as giving you any instructions brother, I just wrote down the concise procedure from what I read on one of these sites. I never did it myself, but because of you I may one day. And like you I will only do it for a given amount or for a specific reason (naturally bad taste, flush or mold). I had never heard of using peroxide for mold before... Is that just for light mold or Any amount of mold. That is such a problem for so many (especially in Oregon and Washington outdoor).
You got a lot of stash man and all those jars looked cool. You worked hard and stressed a bit, but it paid off. You should be an inspiration for many out there. Your buds look awesome. So much of the outdoor weed I see around here is airy and smells like hay. These guys can legally grow 20 footers in wine country, but they have to cut them down before Halloween because of the rains. Even the guys that build a cover over their plants still have moisture issues and have to cut down early. I find that I don't really want to smoke any of the outdoor around here, only the hash made from it.
I do not know about the peroxide, but if people water cure with regular water I bet that would be something good to put on vegging plants. It should be high in nitrogen. Kind of like using grass clippings on grass that is growing.
You had a good season man. I am very happy for you.
You got a lot of stash man and all those jars looked cool. You worked hard and stressed a bit, but it paid off. You should be an inspiration for many out there. Your buds look awesome. So much of the outdoor weed I see around here is airy and smells like hay. These guys can legally grow 20 footers in wine country, but they have to cut them down before Halloween because of the rains. Even the guys that build a cover over their plants still have moisture issues and have to cut down early. I find that I don't really want to smoke any of the outdoor around here, only the hash made from it.
I do not know about the peroxide, but if people water cure with regular water I bet that would be something good to put on vegging plants. It should be high in nitrogen. Kind of like using grass clippings on grass that is growing.
You had a good season man. I am very happy for you.