Woodsman Outdoors

wow wood had some very simlar looking buds the green bubba had very regnerating effect made feel new an the dark one is the one that makes me happy very open minded when i tune into it
 
Woodsman I didn't use h2o2, just distilled water. What dosage of h2o2 did you use?

G-Dog all I can say is that as I went up the cola towards the top, the buds went from fine to starting to see a little mold to pure rot. I wouldn't recommend anything but pitching the rot part. But for the stuff below it, or any moldy buds you see in your jars, it's just the ticket.
 
wowza, those pics of the jars all stacked up are really impressive.

I was impressed with all the different tastes and highs, but I'm even more excited to try the water cured buds. I don't know for sure if I ever tried it.

What color are the stems?
Do remember the story I told you about the black colored grand daddy purple with the light beige stems? I think that stuff was water cured.

Yes, I will post a journal of the grow.
Right now I'm dialing in the cab. I added a veg chamber.

Peace brother, wanna get the kids together for another play date?

Have you tried the vape?
Have you tried the screen?

Howdy Joe yes the kids do need to get out more often! I've not tried either yet, I would have made hash last night, but I spent the evening posting her (pics and posts)! The wife was away for a few hours and that is a requirement for hash making in this household! lol

The Purple you mention sounds like it was water cured. My stems are a light shade of gray but next to the dark buddage the contrast is very evident.


Question:

I've got some not very potent Mazar and NL#5 (fatleaf) from previous grows and was wondering if it will produce good hash? Is it a low number of trichomes or just impotent trichomes that have made those two batches what they are? Both have been taking up space and I'd like to make hash out of them. I'd use the screen Joe lent me. If it's that the trichomes themselves are 'weak', then I won't waste my time, if it is perhaps a lack of quantity rather than quality, then the hash would be just as good as any other.

Any opinions or past experiences with hash making from inferior buddage?

Hi woods,
i water cured some WW and bubbilicious,both came out like you said stronger and very little smell and taste. Thanks to who ever reveiled this .:lot-o-toke::tokin:

HH
Hello my friend,
It's a very good way to cure and unless your in this for 'commercial' gain, No reason not to try it out. I wouldn't take great tasting and smelling weed and do a water cure, unless you've got a lot and want to experiment. The extra potency is misleading as I believe it is mostly due to the reduction in plant material while retaining all the trichomes. The ratio of one to the other changes for the better. Theoretically you'd need to use 'less'' of the WC bud than you would of the reg cured bud. It's like having Bud Concentrate!

I am sorry if I was coming off as giving you any instructions brother, I just wrote down the concise procedure from what I read on one of these sites. I never did it myself, but because of you I may one day. And like you I will only do it for a given amount or for a specific reason (naturally bad taste, flush or mold). I had never heard of using peroxide for mold before... Is that just for light mold or Any amount of mold. That is such a problem for so many (especially in Oregon and Washington outdoor).

You got a lot of stash man and all those jars looked cool. You worked hard and stressed a bit, but it paid off. You should be an inspiration for many out there. Your buds look awesome. So much of the outdoor weed I see around here is airy and smells like hay. These guys can legally grow 20 footers in wine country, but they have to cut them down before Halloween because of the rains. Even the guys that build a cover over their plants still have moisture issues and have to cut down early. I find that I don't really want to smoke any of the outdoor around here, only the hash made from it.

I do not know about the peroxide, but if people water cure with regular water I bet that would be something good to put on vegging plants. It should be high in nitrogen. Kind of like using grass clippings on grass that is growing.

You had a good season man. I am very happy for you.

Never had any issue with what you said as it's all correct. Sorry if I came off a bit defensive. My fault not yours buddy. I was just saying in response that I am not good at following instructions that 'put me out' rather than making it easier. When I was a kid, I used to build model airplanes (plastic) all the time. I'd not do the neatest job on them (with the glue) , but if I'd squint when looking at them , they'd look just fine! I never painted the models either, that was too much 'neatness' for me to fathom! But I did enjoy making them even the way I did it. Lavendar told me not to dry them in the oven first , but I did anyway 'cause I just couldn't see laying them all over the place and have fans blowing on them. We have a one room house basically and there is just not enough room with out making the place more cluttered than it already is. This would aggravate the wife to no end! Anything related to my grow that infringes on her will piss her off. I've got to be cramped up in the house with her for the whole upcoming winter remember!

All is good brother G!

wow wood had some very simlar looking buds the green bubba had very regnerating effect made feel new an the dark one is the one that makes me happy very open minded when i tune into it

Yup, If I put the same amount of water cured bud as the reg cured bud into a bowl, I'd have a completely different (better) high. Like smoking more.

if i didnt no i could have not told they where water cured if the ones on the plate are

Obvious from the color for sure

gonna try it asap


Good luck brother Holy, I'd try it the correct way though like G dog has mentioned.

Woodsman I didn't use h2o2, just distilled water. What dosage of h2o2 did you use?

G-Dog all I can say is that as I went up the cola towards the top, the buds went from fine to starting to see a little mold to pure rot. I wouldn't recommend anything but pitching the rot part. But for the stuff below it, or any moldy buds you see in your jars, it's just the ticket.

As is normal with me, I did not measure per say. I would say about 1 part hp to 10 parts water or perhaps one to eight parts. Wouldn't close the jar for this stage as I did (blew the lid off). Also as G pointed out, they do not seal their lids as I did.

Hey there Woodman,nice to have u back! :)
The pics look awesome and man do u have some jars full of buds,Im going to dream now,hahaha! Great job!

Happy dreaming J! Thank you for the kind words!
 
You know I have wanted to try out water curing, but have been afraid a bit of mold drying out after being soaked...after seeing your results I am not so worried.

And very, very nice selection you have brother! Nice total, hope it lasts you more than a month....:rasta:

I just wanted to say, :goodjob: brother on your completed grow...now what are you gonna do?

And how are you gonna sneak a personal indoor grow past the significant other? :tokin: (Just kidding brother)

:peacetwo: Woods my friend.
 
oh woodsman,
you should be so proud of yourself....cured pot is always shades of brown, from yellowish to reddish, black ect...other strains i notice that cure a little diff. are the diesels....they are more of a tan, gold, green, limey color....when i look at the jars you can really see....alot of seeds i had from canada show more of a blackish cure....have really started to notice that....
now you see what i mean by white ash...poof....nothing....that is no impurities....when they judge weed, that is one of the tests....been on a couple of those panels and if you listen, you really learn alot....one of the reasons i do a water and mollassas for a week, and water only for a wk after i flush them.....it flushes just about all the fert. salts ect out....first you flush the soil, then you use up and flush whats left in the plant....really interesting stuff....mmj...very happy for you, feel like jumping up and down for you....you did a hell of a learning curve clear to the end and didnt quit....you did great....and your plants were gorgeous....hugs, say high to J....L and hubby:goodjob::thumb::lot-o-toke::tokin::yummy:
 
You know I have wanted to try out water curing, but have been afraid a bit of mold drying out after being soaked...after seeing your results I am not so worried.

And very, very nice selection you have brother! Nice total, hope it lasts you more than a month....:rasta:

I just wanted to say, :goodjob: brother on your completed grow...now what are you gonna do?

And how are you gonna sneak a personal indoor grow past the significant other? :tokin: (Just kidding brother)

:peacetwo: Woods my friend.


Hello my fine Rocky Mountain friend! Nice of you to stop in and I must say you look terrific :rasta:! Amazing what a little puff can do for the hair. Normally we both look like this :rasta:, but with huge advances in technology we can look more like this :rasta: LOL

If you don't have any mold to begin with, you could do it for an 'alternative' smoke. Like having a different pheno or strain in your collection. It does concentrate a bit, but you just need to smoke less. Like putting your new jeans (with coins in the pocket) in the hot dryer. when they come out the jeans have shrunk some, but the coins (trichs) haven't.

You will not get mold if you dry your water cure like I did, that's for sure! the instructions I've seen talk about a food dehydrator (which I don't have). I would be afraid also to dry it slower. It's not 'wet' like fresh weed, it's 'soaking wet' when you take it out of the water filled jars. So drying it quick is important I would think. Look, I used our oven, but with a fan blowing in (opened oven door) and the temps somewhere close to 100 degrees (It felt like it) it's similar to a dehydrator, correct? I've never had one so I'm not sure of the process.

Hmmm? A secret indoor grow. That would be a hard objective to complete, but with some innovated thinking and some new technological advances (again) I may be able to come out alive with all limbs intact! But no way I could do it here. LOL If I had a good bud that lived in the area, perhaps something could be worked out to grow over there. Joe lives 'hundreds' of miles away so that's not an option.


oh woodsman,
you should be so proud of yourself....cured pot is always shades of brown, from yellowish to reddish, black ect...other strains i notice that cure a little diff. are the diesels....they are more of a tan, gold, green, limey color....when i look at the jars you can really see....alot of seeds i had from canada show more of a blackish cure....have really started to notice that....
now you see what i mean by white ash...poof....nothing....that is no impurities....when they judge weed, that is one of the tests....been on a couple of those panels and if you listen, you really learn alot....one of the reasons i do a water and mollassas for a week, and water only for a wk after i flush them.....it flushes just about all the fert. salts ect out....first you flush the soil, then you use up and flush whats left in the plant....really interesting stuff....mmj...very happy for you, feel like jumping up and down for you....you did a hell of a learning curve clear to the end and didnt quit....you did great....and your plants were gorgeous....hugs, say high to J....L and hubby:goodjob::thumb::lot-o-toke::tokin::yummy:

Hello my friend! I think some of my stuff is still in the process of curing so it will eventually lose more of their 'green' color. The Bagweeds have cure pretty good, though when I found the mold in some of them, I air dried them some more and perhaps a tad too much, They had already 'cured' though by that time so they are not like fresh 'over dried' bud. That mey be what the Mazar and the NL#5 are. or very close to being too dry. Oh well, I freaked when I saw all that mold. I aired them all quite well at that point. I had thought that the Bubba also got too dry, but now it seems alright. apparently enough moisture left to rehydrate a little.

Here's a pic I just took of a tiny bowl I just finished of my water cured Pink Lady (Bagweed #2). I had a hard time with the flash and the pic being over exposed because it is so white! Took a lot of pics just to come out with one pic that didn't glare too much.

Pure, weightless, white ash from a 'water cured' bud.


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Hey Odin! A water cure will basically remove all the impurities from your crop, along with chlorophyll and the starches that a normal cure will turn to sugars.

If you have moderate mold it's a great alternative to tossing it all out, which is why Woodsman did it. If you couldn't flush your grow and it has a strong nute presence that's another great reason. Or if you don't want a small bag of budz reeking to high heaven if you leave it in your car on a hot day, that's another great reason. And lastly if you're impatient and don't want to wait on a regular cure, or you would have to attempt a cure in hot humid conditions very conducive to mold it would also be a good alternative.

The downside is that which you noted, you'll lose most of the smell and flavor of the original buds.
 
Hey Odin! A water cure will basically remove all the impurities from your crop, along with chlorophyll and the starches that a normal cure will turn to sugars.

If you have moderate mold it's a great alternative to tossing it all out, which is why Woodsman did it. If you couldn't flush your grow and it has a strong nute presence that's another great reason. Or if you don't want a small bag of budz reeking to high heaven if you leave it in your car on a hot day, that's another great reason. And lastly if you're impatient and don't want to wait on a regular cure, or you would have to attempt a cure in hot humid conditions very conducive to mold it would also be a good alternative.

The downside is that which you noted, you'll lose most of the smell and flavor of the original buds.

Ahhh okay, gotcha. Wish I would have known about it years ago for a couple plants that got chem burn, might have helped. Good to know, I'll keep it in mind for the future. Thanks for the info! :blunt:
 
I know there are times I wish my weed didn't out me. I have had girl friends that didn't smoke hug me and say, "I can smell the weed in your pocket."
 



Hello my fine Rocky Mountain friend! Nice of you to stop in and I must say you look terrific :rasta:! Amazing what a little puff can do for the hair. Normally we both look like this :rasta:, but with huge advances in technology we can look more like this :rasta: LOL

If you don't have any mold to begin with, you could do it for an 'alternative' smoke. Like having a different pheno or strain in your collection. It does concentrate a bit, but you just need to smoke less. Like putting your new jeans (with coins in the pocket) in the hot dryer. when they come out the jeans have shrunk some, but the coins (trichs) haven't.

You will not get mold if you dry your water cure like I did, that's for sure! the instructions I've seen talk about a food dehydrator (which I don't have). I would be afraid also to dry it slower. It's not 'wet' like fresh weed, it's 'soaking wet' when you take it out of the water filled jars. So drying it quick is important I would think. Look, I used our oven, but with a fan blowing in (opened oven door) and the temps somewhere close to 100 degrees (It felt like it) it's similar to a dehydrator, correct? I've never had one so I'm not sure of the process.

Hmmm? A secret indoor grow. That would be a hard objective to complete, but with some innovated thinking and some new technological advances (again) I may be able to come out alive with all limbs intact! But no way I could do it here. LOL If I had a good bud that lived in the area, perhaps something could be worked out to grow over there. Joe lives 'hundreds' of miles away so that's not an option.




Hello my friend! I think some of my stuff is still in the process of curing so it will eventually lose more of their 'green' color. The Bagweeds have cure pretty good, though when I found the mold in some of them, I air dried them some more and perhaps a tad too much, They had already 'cured' though by that time so they are not like fresh 'over dried' bud. That mey be what the Mazar and the NL#5 are. or very close to being too dry. Oh well, I freaked when I saw all that mold. I aired them all quite well at that point. I had thought that the Bubba also got too dry, but now it seems alright. apparently enough moisture left to rehydrate a little.

Here's a pic I just took of a tiny bowl I just finished of my water cured Pink Lady (Bagweed #2). I had a hard time with the flash and the pic being over exposed because it is so white! Took a lot of pics just to come out with one pic that didn't glare too much.

Pure, weightless, white ash from a 'water cured' bud.


DSCN22021.JPG

thats the stuff....yeahhhhhhh woodsman....hugs, L
 
Beautiful grow Woodsman!
A yield that big will keep you happy for at least a few months. :)

Haha! Hopefully a bit longer than that! LOL Thanks and welcome to the grow Super! Nice to have someone from Scandinavia on with us!

Okay, maybe I missed it, but besides a lack of smell when stored/smoked (which to me, the smell is one of the best things about cannabis) what is the purpose of the water cure? Never heard of it until now and I'm still trying to figure it out. If I missed an explanation in here no need to reiterate just point me in the right direction.

Hey Odin! A water cure will basically remove all the impurities from your crop, along with chlorophyll and the starches that a normal cure will turn to sugars.

If you have moderate mold it's a great alternative to tossing it all out, which is why Woodsman did it. If you couldn't flush your grow and it has a strong nute presence that's another great reason. Or if you don't want a small bag of budz reeking to high heaven if you leave it in your car on a hot day, that's another great reason. And lastly if you're impatient and don't want to wait on a regular cure, or you would have to attempt a cure in hot humid conditions very conducive to mold it would also be a good alternative.

The downside is that which you noted, you'll lose most of the smell and flavor of the original buds.

Ahhh okay, gotcha. Wish I would have known about it years ago for a couple plants that got chem burn, might have helped. Good to know, I'll keep it in mind for the future. Thanks for the info! :blunt:


Hey Odin, Blue!

Thanks Blue for your 'perfect' explanation! Couldn't have said it better!


I know there are times I wish my weed didn't out me. I have had girl friends that didn't smoke hug me and say, "I can smell the weed in your pocket."

As long as your not hugging a female law enforcement officer your probably safe! LOL

Are you glad to see me, or is that just another bag of weed in your pocket?

:adore: :rofl: :rofl::rofl:

thats the stuff....yeahhhhhhh woodsman....hugs, L

Thank you L!
 
LoL Woodsmans... I am Usually Not hugging one of those... Wanna funny story?

No choice... A couple of years ago I was dating this totally wild chick that lived on the Louisiana/Texas line. She was always in trouble, running from the law, her kids were always in trouble etc. I don't even know why I dated her. Well I know why I dated her. But anyway, she talked me into going to her sister's house in Eastern Texas the day after Christmas. I had scored some Sour Diesel in Houston and I was very proud of it. It cost me an arm and leg. You probably know, Sour D has to be in a jar as it has a heavy reek. So I go to my girl's sisters house and I see a Sheriff car in the driveway. I sat in the truck for awhile, not sure what to do. She comes to the truck and asked me wtf was I doing sitting in my truck and brought me in. Her sister was the Sheriff. She introduced me to everyone in the house, about 50 people and every one of them hugged me. Every time I got hugged it was like I got a dead stare from the one hugging me. When the Sheriff hugged me she gave me a stare and a wink. Throughout the next couple of days just about everyone at the party asked me, begged me to break out the Sour D. We would take off away from the house in these 4x4 things and get high. One by one just about everyone there would make me take them 4 wheeling. I ended up passing out on a lawn chair on the patio.

The Sheriff had to work the first night. In the wee morning when she come back she reached out and hugged me again. She said, "I run a check on you and you are okay."

My girl friend told me afterward that her sister had told her many times that if weed was not illegal she would be smoking it too. I was so paranoid because I got her entire house stoned. All those people only smoked Brick Weed and Sour D was a real treat. I am sure that if I met any of them again the first thing said would be, "Hey, lets go smoke that Sour D man."
 
did it wit sime supa dry bud like ya said no smell used disstilled water once most of the water was dark like tea put the buds on paper towel got out as much water as possiable chopped it up thinking smaller chunks will dry faster nuked for 40 seconds to dry the middels in ten second increamints left over nigth to dry fully dry now no smell the water did so if this is done with a skunk strain im pretty sure there will be reeking water as the bud i used had lil smell an an the water had a bit of odor an lil during the nuke smoked the bud no smell gotta give it an other test
 
kinda reminds me when we made bud tea that migth work as long as you are sure the waters temp stays below 120 -150 becuse we would get some dark bud tea then dry an smoke wit some effect an we would boil it or at least a nice simmer im try that way just to see if i can cut down the whole soaking time:nicethread: this is good for me cuz everyone doesnt want me smoking an im reduced to conceal my toking smh
 
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