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I've been saving it up. 6 plants worth. Thought I'd try some oil or something. Thanks Canna

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I've been saving it up. 6 plants worth. Thought I'd try some oil or something. Thanks Canna

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You could do so much with that. To be in your shoes. Lol. I've been wanting to try dry ice hash. It looks too easy honestly. I watched a video on how to make it. They took a bubble bag, not sure what filter size it was, but I can find out. In the bag, they put a bunch of trimmings and some dry ice. They closed the bag at the top, and shook it over a table. The table was covered in hash. It was amazing! The amount of hash he got in so very little time was freaking cool man! I'll go look for a link to post for everyone.

Dry Ice Hash Demo - YouTube
Hoping this link works...
 
Yes it is Coloradokid. We're celebrating concentrates. You should join us and make some of your own. :battingeyelashes:

I might have to end up doing that... I do still have time before 710, I just have to see what/how much bud I have to work with and see what I can do


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I tried the dry ice method but i didnt work out so good. You don't wanna shake it took much or plant matter will be making it turn green and taste like chlorophyll. Shiggity had good results tho.
 
You could do so much with that. To be in your shoes. Lol. I've been wanting to try dry ice hash. It looks too easy honestly. I watched a video on how to make it. They took a bubble bag, not sure what filter size it was, but I can find out. In the bag, they put a bunch of trimmings and some dry ice. They closed the bag at the top, and shook it over a table. The table was covered in hash. It was amazing! The amount of hash he got in so very little time was freaking cool man! I'll go look for a link to post for everyone.

Dry Ice Hash Demo - YouTube
Hoping this link works...

I do dry ice hash and it is, IMHO, much easier & quicker than ice water or just about any extraction method. You can use your choice of micron size, however, the larger the mesh, the more plant material you'll get.

Also, you can change the mesh for different grades, just use the smallest one first. For example, start with a 70 micron bag (shake, shake, shake!), switch to a 90 micron bag (shake, shake, shake), and finish with the 120 micron bag (shake, shake, shake).

The product from the 70 micron will be the "purest" and the 120 micron bag will have the most plant material, but still be pretty good! :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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You could do so much with that. To be in your shoes. Lol. I've been wanting to try dry ice hash. It looks too easy honestly. I watched a video on how to make it. They took a bubble bag, not sure what filter size it was, but I can find out. In the bag, they put a bunch of trimmings and some dry ice. They closed the bag at the top, and shook it over a table. The table was covered in hash. It was amazing! The amount of hash he got in so very little time was freaking cool man! I'll go look for a link to post for everyone.

Dry Ice Hash Demo - YouTube
Hoping this link works...
Did it, more work then YouTube video shows. Oil is my next venture. I tried it with out decarb step, just took trim and butter on low heat then strained. It tasted strong but did not get me off the ground. Sue is the master so I'm trying to recreate her success.

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Did it, more work then YouTube video shows. Oil is my next venture. I tried it with out decarb step, just took trim and butter on low heat then strained. It tasted strong but did not get me off the ground. Sue is the master so I'm trying to recreate her success.

Cheers

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She is a great mentor for us!!
 
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Did it, more work then YouTube video shows. Oil is my next venture. I tried it with out decarb step, just took trim and butter on low heat then strained. It tasted strong but did not get me off the ground. Sue is the master so I'm trying to recreate her success.

Cheers

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You MUST do the decarb step. Raw cannabis contains THC-A, which is non-psychoactive. The decarb process converts the THC-A into Delta-9 THC which IS psychoactive.

You don't need to decarb before smoking because the burning (or vaping) of the meds decarbs the buds along the way.

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You MUST do the decarb step. Raw cannabis contains THC-A, which is non-psychoactive. The decarb process converts the THC-A into Delta-9 THC which IS psychoactive.

You don't need to decarb before smoking because the burning (or vaping) of the meds decarbs the buds along the way.

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Won't they decarboxylate in the oil mix on low in a croc pot for 2 hrs?
 
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Won't they decarboxylate in the oil mix on low in a croc pot for 2 hrs?

Now, that is a great question! :bravo:

I'll see if I can get a good answer with some research. I've never heard of decarb'ing directly in the oil/butter, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.

That being said, if you're on a double-boiler, the hottest the temp will get is 212*F (boiling point of the water). I am aware of people using a "sous vide" method, which is a cooking technique basically involving boiling in a bag, for 2 hours. My first question would be, assuming you can decarb directly in the oil, at what temp and for how long.

I know during the decarb process different terpines and flavinoids are released which need to re-settle on the bud (which is why we wait until cool before opening the decarb container), and don't know how this would be effected if the buds were "submerged".

I'll see if I can find any data on it!

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Won't they decarboxylate in the oil mix on low in a croc pot for 2 hrs?
I used sauce pan on low for about 10 min. I guess this explains my problem. Thanks, while I talk like I know lots, areas where I lack experience I know Nadya.

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Decarboxylation of cannabis
The following information about decarboxylation was not written by Cannabis Chris, but was pulled from another site during part of my research for “Marijuana Decarboxylation: how to decarboxylate medical marijuana” and “What is Decarboxylation?“, as well as a future article with another method. This snippet about decarboxylation had too much good information for me to leave out.
decarboxylation-graph-b.jpg
After reading this information, along with a graph that shows decarboxylation temperatures, I will be doing some experimenting with a few more methods of decarboxylating marijuana and I will post the results here.
Anyway, here is some great information from one of the big pharma companies, about the decarboxylation process, some of the info is pretty boring, but please read it all. That way you will have the best understanding of the decarboxylation method you choose to go with…

“The decarboxylation step may be carried out prior to or after extraction with liquid CO2.
In a preferred embodiment the decarboxylation step … is conducted by heating the plant material to temperatures and for times which ensure at least 95% conversion of the acid cannabinoids from the acid form to their neutral form whilst ensuring thermal degradation of THC to CBN is less than 10%.
Decarboxylation of cannabinoid acids is a function of time and temperature, thus at higher temperatures a shorter period of time will be taken for complete decarboxylation of a given amount of cannabinoid acid. In selecting appropriate conditions for decarboxylation consideration must, however, be given to minimising thermal degradation of the desirable, pharmacological cannabinoids into undesirable degradation products, particularly thermal degradation of THC to cannabinol (CBN).
Preferably, decarboxylation is carried out in a multi-step heating process in which the plant material is:
i) heated to a first temperature for a first (relatively short) time period to evaporate off retained water and allow for uniform heating of the plant material; and
ii) the temperature is increased to a second temperature for a second time period (typically longer than the first time period) until at least 95% conversion of the acid cannabinoids to their neutral form has occurred.
Preferably the first step is conducted at a temperature in the range of 100° C. to 110° C. for 10–20 minutes. More preferably the first temperature is about 105° C. and the first time period is about 15 minutes.
If the plant material is derived from cannabis plants having a high CBD content (defined as >90% CBD as a percentage of total cannabinoid content), the second temperature is preferably in the range from 115° C. to 125° C., preferably about 120° C. and the second time period is in the range from 45 to 75 minutes, preferably about 60 minutes. More preferably the second temperature is in the range from 135° C. to 145° C., preferably 140° C. and the second time period is in the range from 15 to 45 minutes, preferably about 30 minutes. In another embodiment, most preferred for a mass of plant material greater than 4 kg, the second temperature is in the range from 140° C. to 150° C., preferably 145° C. and the second time period is in the range from 55–90 minutes. The latter conditions are preferred for processing amounts of, for example, 4–6 kg of starting plant material and the exact figures, particularly time, may vary slightly with increased mass.
If the plant material is derived from cannabis plants having a high THC content (defined as >90% THC as a percentage of total cannabinoid content), the second temperature is preferably in the range of 115° C. to 125° C., typically 120° C., and the second time period is preferably in the range of 45 minutes to 75 minutes, typically about 60 minutes. More preferably the second temperature is in the range of 100° C. to 110° C., typically 105° C., and the second time period is in the range of 60 to 120 minutes. In another embodiment, most preferred for a mass of plant material greater than 4 kg, the second temperature is in the range of 140° C. to 150° C., preferably 145° C., and the second time period is in the range of 45 to 55 minutes.
Most preferably the decarboxylation step is conducted at temperatures and for times which ensure at least 97% conversion of the acid cannabinoids to their neutral form, whilst ensuring thermal degradation of THC to CBN is less than 5%. …
The plant material used as the starting material for the extraction process is preferably ground, milled or otherwise processed to give a particle size of less than 2 mm, but preferably greater than 1 mm. Such treatment generally results in improved extraction of cannabinoids from the plant material, as packaging density is improved.”
via Extraction of pharmaceutically active components from plant materials – GW Pharma Limited.

NOTE: Part of the decarb process is the drying of the meds (evaporating off the water). This is what I'm curious about being effected when buds are submerged, however, I suspect that any decarb that occurs directly in the oil will be much less effective (i.e. less of the THC-A actually converted to Delta-9 THC) than if decarbed "dry".

Still researching, but thought this was worth posting! ;)

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Decarboxylation is a function of time and temperature. You can decarb at a lower temp, but you have to compensate by extending the time. That's why I left my oil extraction in the oven on 170 for 36 hours. I'm fairly certain I got decent decarb action out of that method as well as a very respectable terpene profile.

millertm, ten minutes was a sauté, not a decarb. The standard I use is by one Rambo, (another site) who recently did a decarb experiment and found the perfect quick temperature to be 240 degrees F for 60 minutes. This produced the best values of THC and CBD while retaining the best numbers of terpenes and flavinoids. I have his info in the study hall, if anyone's interested.
 
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