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Hi canna I stepped away for a bit I was reading back and saw where you are watering every 3 days ? Now are you feeding nutes every water? It's weird I'm in 5 gallons and water every 10 days give or take and feed with every watering AND the plants have NEVER needed water even at 10 days. Don't get me wrong Katy outside she drops every 2-3 days (and in the same medium soil mix as the indoor pots) so I know exactly what you mean with the droop. But with all that rambling (I just smoked) just wondering if u feed every water lol hope all well seems to be here at least be well and stay productive


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SweetSue said:
Decarboxylation is a function of time and temperature. You can decarb at a lower temp, but you have to compensate by extending the time. That's why I left my oil extraction in the oven on 170 for 36 hours. I'm fairly certain I got decent decarb action out of that method as well as a very respectable terpene profile.

millertm, ten minutes was a sauté, not a decarb. The standard I use is by one Rambo, (another site) who recently did a decarb experiment and found the perfect quick temperature to be 240 degrees F for 60 minutes. This produced the best values of THC and CBD while retaining the best numbers of terpenes and flavinoids. I have his info in the study hall, if anyone's interested.
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I agree with this 420%!

What Canna has me curious about (YOU started it, Canna! :cheesygrinsmiley:) is how time & temp get effected. For example, if you get 95% decarboxylation at 180*F in two hours doing it "dry", how long would you need to decarb in oil at 180*F to get the same 95% decarboxylation? That question is somewhat rhetorical, unless anyone has the answer, but an interesting question none-the-less.
 
ohioboy said:
Hi canna I stepped away for a bit I was reading back and saw where you are watering every 3 days ? Now are you feeding nutes every water? It's weird I'm in 5 gallons and water every 10 days give or take and feed with every watering AND the plants have NEVER needed water even at 10 days. Don't get me wrong Katy outside she drops every 2-3 days (and in the same medium soil mix as the indoor pots) so I know exactly what you mean with the droop. But with all that rambling (I just smoked) just wondering if u feed every water lol hope all well seems to be here at least be well and stay productive


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We had them down to feeding every Wednesday and just water on sundays. Now that they need it more often it throws off the scheduling. But we feed every other watering.
 
Mr. Krip said:
I agree with this 420%!

What Canna has me curious about (YOU started it, Canna! :cheesygrinsmiley:) is how time & temp get effected. For example, if you get 95% decarboxylation at 180*F in two hours doing it "dry", how long would you need to decarb in oil at 180*F to get the same 95% decarboxylation? That question is somewhat rhetorical, unless anyone has the answer, but an interesting question none-the-less.
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I've always wondered that. I figured it would eventually get out. I think what Sue said above has some bearing also.
 
Interesting convo... I made some coconut oil recently for making edibles. The old days, we'd just chuck it it the pot with water and butter, simmer for 2-4 hours, separate the water and butter and done. Ready for baking. This worked every time, potency being determined by material used ie we rarely if ever used bud.. Too expensive.
This last time I decarbed, then slow cooked the coconut oil/weed in slow cooker on low for about 6 hours.. Then cooked packet-brownies.... If I ate enough brownies, I would fall asleep on the couch but no "stone".. I decided that it had been "decarbed" too much.. Maybe good meds but no good for getting high. This was with month-cured trim and buds..
Next time, I go back to no decarb, water and oil/butter.. See if that works for me again.. I reckon I cooked the crap out of the weed, heating it 3 times... Esp in the oven in the brownies... Been looking to confirm this ever since....
Can you just decarb while processing.....? Hours in a slolw cooker should do it; heat is heat.. If it is low enough and long enough, isn't it pretty much gonna happen while your making the butter????
 
santb said:
Interesting convo... I made some coconut oil recently for making edibles. The old days, we'd just chuck it it the pot with water and butter, simmer for 2-4 hours, separate the water and butter and done. Ready for baking. This worked every time, potency being determined by material used ie we rarely if ever used bud.. Too expensive.
This last time I decarbed, then slow cooked the coconut oil/weed in slow cooker on low for about 6 hours.. Then cooked packet-brownies.... If I ate enough brownies, I would fall asleep on the couch but no "stone".. I decided that it had been "decarbed" too much.. Maybe good meds but no good for getting high. This was with month-cured trim and buds..
Next time, I go back to no decarb, water and oil/butter.. See if that works for me again.. I reckon I cooked the crap out of the weed, heating it 3 times... Esp in the oven in the brownies... Been looking to confirm this ever since....
Can you just decarb while processing.....? Hours in a slolw cooker should do it; heat is heat.. If it is low enough and long enough, isn't it pretty much gonna happen while your making the butter????
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When you bake the brownies, you need to make sure you bake BELOW 350*F. Since the THC vaporizes at that temp you should adjust many recipes (that list a 350+* temp) down to 325*F and bake a little longer.
 
dirt mcgert said:
Sorry Canna :passitleft:
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Thanks guys :passitleft: next?

Mr. Krip said:
I agree with this 420%!

What Canna has me curious about (YOU started it, Canna! :cheesygrinsmiley:) is how time & temp get effected. For example, if you get 95% decarboxylation at 180*F in two hours doing it "dry", how long would you need to decarb in oil at 180*F to get the same 95% decarboxylation? That question is somewhat rhetorical, unless anyone has the answer, but an interesting question none-the-less.
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Sometime in the next few years we're going to have the answers to this because people will be running tests. This is an exciting time, legalistic frustrations notwithstanding.
 
I didn't even know what decarboxylation was, I never cook with cannabis. had to go do some research, thought this table was interesting and might be useful. :passitleft:

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Demon42069 said:
I didn't even know what decarboxylation was, I never cook with cannabis. had to go do some research, thought this table was interesting and might be useful. :passitleft:

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I saved that chart to add to my collection of mmj goodies I've run across. Thanks for taking the time to share it here with us.
May I ask where you got this valuable info?
 
Canna Montana said:
I've always wondered that. I figured it would eventually get out. I think what Sue said above has some bearing also.
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OK...Results of today's research on decarboxylation in oil/butter are in!

While I could not find actual times, it appears there a good way to decarb in oil and know when you're done. Here it is (excerpted from full article):

The good news is that it is dirt simple to monitor the state of cannabis oil decarboxylation placed in a 121C/250F hot oil bath, because you can watch the CO2 bubble production.

Just like the curves suggest, CO2 bubble production will proceed at its own observable rate. By keeping the puddle of oil lightly stirred on the bottom and in the corners of the pot (I use a bamboo skewer), so as to keep the bubbles broken free and floating to the top, you can tell exactly when the bubble formation suddenly tapers off at the top of the curve.

That is the point that we take it out of the oil for maximum head effect, and we leave it in until all bubbling stops, if we want a more sedative night time med.
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:Namaste:
 
Demon42069 said:
I didn't even know what decarboxylation was, I never cook with cannabis. had to go do some research, thought this table was interesting and might be useful. :passitleft:

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You beat me to it! +REPS! :welldone:
 
Mr. Krip said:
OK...Results of today's research on decarboxylation in oil/butter are in!

While I could not find actual times, it appears there a good way to decarb in oil and know when you're done. Here it is (excerpted from full article):



:Namaste:
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You are awesome Mr. K! Thanks for the time you put into finding the answer to that question. Next time I will leave it to cook longer. I like a good couch lock, but the caps we have are very much so uppers, which is a pleasant change of pace for daytime. Also, this is the first time I've ever felt an upper high, as opposed to a relaxed high. I liked it. I can see why Sue likes the carnival for its uppers. Anywhoo, :thanks:
 
Mr. Krip said:
When you bake the brownies, you need to make sure you bake BELOW 350*F. Since the THC vaporizes at that temp you should adjust many recipes (that list a 350+* temp) down to 325*F and bake a little longer.
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So you would still decarb before any "cooking" starting for 'fun' butter as opposed to 'medical'?
 
santb said:
So you would still decarb before any "cooking" starting for 'fun' butter as opposed to 'medical'?
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Personally, I ALWAYS decarb first.
 
Mr. Krip said:
Personally, I ALWAYS decarb first.
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Decarbing is a necessity and plus it makes your house smell like weed for a day ha ha

Wake and bake time!

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santb said:
So you would still decarb before any "cooking" starting for 'fun' butter as opposed to 'medical'?
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If you are cooking with the buds as in foods like, but not limited to, brownies, pasta dishes, cookies, caramel, gravy, etc, you will need to decarb then make canna butter to add room the recipes instead of the fat. So, in brownies, instead of oil, you will use your canna butter. That's a necessity for decarbing, IMHO.
When it comes room topical pain rubs, like canna/alcohol, I do not decarb the leaves. The rub works just fine not decarbed.
When winterizing for oil making, you use dry buds, not decarbed, to extract the oil.
So every application does not have to be decarbed, but I'd say most do need it in one form or another. Does this make sense to you?
 
The lights just came on in the breeding tent and I thought I would take some pictures with the new camera! We will have more updates throughout the weekend but we will start here.

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The carnival is growing super fast and I thought it was going to be close for the pollination period. Well we have a week or so until the DDA starts to show her lady parts and then I will begin spraying the colloidal silver on her. Then roughly 2-3 weeks after spraying her she will get some pollen sacs showing up and a week or so after that the sacs will open up. So when the pollen sacks show up, the light schedule will be changed to 12/12 so that the clones will be pollinated. Or I could just collect the pollen and let them get a little bigger before giving it to them...we shall see where they are when the time comes. But I think another month or so of veg will give them some pretty decent size for this project.

As I said on Thursday we took some heavyweight fruit punch clones for this project as well. I didn't put up any pictures of them so here they are. They are in the back and the lonely one up front is the other carnival clone. I don't think she took but she made a solid attempt. Roots started to be made but then died.

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Here are the girls up close and personal. The DDA is a little dirty from her transplant the other day. Didn't want to get too rough with her after the transplant experience so she will get cleaned up today.

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Now we are going to go play with the camera in the grow room so we will have a bunch of pictures to put up today. Multiple lenses to use, filters, and possibly some color correction from the LEDs. Hope everyone enjoys their weekend...it'll be a good one!

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Demon42069 said:
ooh new camera, it's so clear:bravo: I definitely need to start using something better then my phone lol. my bad on the table, meant to give the address to give credit. I got the chart from a website called greenstyleconsulting. wasn't a very long page but had some good easy to understand info.

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We have been wanting to get away from using our phones as well and boy am I glad we did. I just love being able to focus everything myself and not have to rely on the camera guessing what I want to take a picture of. Also being able to change the ISO will give you some awesome clear pictures. Canna took some nug shots last night while I was recovering from a migraine and they are badass. I'll say early afternoon today (CDT) and we will just upload a ton of pictures. :thumb:
 
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