Welcome All My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - Canna M & Nismo12 Team Up!

Update!


Today we did some work down in the garden. We had been sick and tired of unnecessary high temperatures. So now we are leaving the rooms in a couple different spots. In the veg room the exhaust is still being run over to the flower room and being exhausted out. The flower room exhaust is also hooked up to the same 8" fan. Bam! We then unhooked the 2 AC units that were exhausting out of the same place as the room exhaust. No we took a different route and now both AC units are now independently run out to our green house to serve two purposes. To heat the green house and to effectively remove heat from the room. Now with the lights on the rooms are sitting at 77 degrees and 50% RH in flower and 60% in veg. Sigh. Finally.

Everyone got a healthy drink of water and the brix chix and the big flux got some half strength de-stress. I think some of the reason the flux had been looking horrible is because it was warmer than she is used to and found that out early in veg when temps barely got over 80 she will show signs of heat stress. But anyways she got 3+ gallons of water tonight and 90 mins after posting the previous picture she is looking loads better. :thumb:

Then we have some bud shots.

THC Bomb
2x Bubble Bomb
Green Love Potion
Purple Kush

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Then we have Pineapple Express Auto. Colas are over 2" wide and has a bit to go yet.

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Bloody Skunk Auto

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Amnesia Haze Auto

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That's all I have for this evening. Time to watch our Cubbies win some more baseball. :woohoo:

RoorRip :passitleft:
 
Now with the lights on the rooms are sitting at 77 degrees

I think some of the reason the flux had been looking horrible is because it was warmer than she is used to and found that out early in veg when temps barely got over 80 she will show signs of heat stress.

Huh. I hope for 77°F when I didn't have much light. Which I can see in the vegetative room, there's no sense in blasting it with the maximum amount of μmol m⁻² s⁻¹ you possibly can when they are too small to use all that energy. But I've looked at a couple studies which seemed to show that a decent-sized cannabis plant cannot use as much light-energy at that temperature as it can at 86°F (that's all assuming ambient CO₂ levels - if you're supplementing to ~800 PPM, then the same plant ought to be able to use more light-energy - at a slightly higher temperature).

IDK, to be honest. The above would depend on other things being optimum. Specifically, the plant would have to be able to transpire all the moisture that it "wanted to" (please forgive me ascribing consciousness to a plant, my mind is in the low part of its cycle and wresting the proper words from it is a challenge), the xylem in good shape (I won't say "healthy," lol because it's made from dead cells), the Casparian strip undamaged (generally not an issue), the stomata clean (no smoking in the grow rooms ;) )... I suppose that if the mineral content of the soil/nutrient solution is too high, it could interfere with osmosis at the root level - but one would surely notice that. Good airflow to evaporate the transpired moisture - and to provide a cooling affect at the plant. Adequate moisture levels in the soil would be assumed. Oh, and if you're using some kind of surfactant to lower the surface tension of the water/solution, that would tend to throw a monkey wrench in the system, because it sort of depends on the adhesion and cohesion properties of water to work correctly in the first place.

Oh... and having typed all that, lol, if your strain's natural environment is a cool one (Swiss strains, maybe?), then "YMMV" applies. Come to think of it, it almost always does, regardless of the discussion :laughtwo: .

I'm rambling again (whodathunkit?). I just... you know... I stuck a piece of tape on my laptop above the display and wrote "ON-TOPIC!!!" on it :rolleyes3 .
 
HI Canna and nis :)

:rofl: Tortured :)
I'm rambling again (whodathunkit?). I just... you know... I stuck a piece of tape on my laptop above the display and wrote "ON-TOPIC!!!" on it :rolleyes3 .

Your rambling ,as you call it, is always full of info :thumb:
 
Your rambling ,as you call it, is always full of info :thumb:

Okay, I will (perhaps somewhat optimistically) agree with you there. But even I have to admit that sometimes the... information is not only not germane to the topic at hand, it also might not be of interest to anyone (on the entire planet, lol). Like... I don't even remember what the discussion was about, it was years ago and on a forum that dealt with certain types of... communications equipment (never mind ;) ). Anyway, I submitted a reply in a thread and was informed that it had gone over the character limit by, IDK, ten or twelve paragraphs or something like that. So I went back to pare it down a little - and saw that I began the trainwreck with a discourse about methyl ethyl ketone and how something that you can spray onto a surface, exhale a lungful of smoke at it... and would actually "capture" and hold onto the smoke for several seconds... couldn't be healthy to inhale for 48 hours/week. I won't say that the (many) things that I bounced to from there were even more off-topic - because such a statement seems kind of silly, considering - but they certainly weren't any closer to the thread topic or even the forum's subject matter. And I must have spent 40 minutes typing away on the post. <SHRUGS> I really don't mean to, but it happens. It's like when my brain got built, lol, there was a whole bunch of wire left over... so it just got connected every which way until all the extra got used, too. It makes life... ... ... ... interesting at times. It also means that my perfect relationship match is a woman with an IQ of like 186. Who is schizophrenic. <SIGH>

So - and this goes for everyone, in every thread - do not be afraid to give me a virtual kick in the seat of my pants if you feel it is warranted.
 
I agree with Birdy! I can't speak for everyone, but your posts don't bother us. Honestly, if someone doesn't want to read it, they don't have to. We value you as a friend and a wealth of information, and we want you to keep stopping by here. Assuming that we are all adults, nobody should have a problem with your posts in this journal considering Nis and I both want you here, and we are the ones who started this journal.

Please feel free to stop by whenever you can. Have a good day TS!
 
Huh. I hope for 77°F when I didn't have much light. Which I can see in the vegetative room, there's no sense in blasting it with the maximum amount of μmol m⁻² s⁻¹ you possibly can when they are too small to use all that energy. But I've looked at a couple studies which seemed to show that a decent-sized cannabis plant cannot use as much light-energy at that temperature as it can at 86°F (that's all assuming ambient CO₂ levels - if you're supplementing to ~800 PPM, then the same plant ought to be able to use more light-energy - at a slightly higher temperature).

IDK, to be honest. The above would depend on other things being optimum. Specifically, the plant would have to be able to transpire all the moisture that it "wanted to" (please forgive me ascribing consciousness to a plant, my mind is in the low part of its cycle and wresting the proper words from it is a challenge), the xylem in good shape (I won't say "healthy," lol because it's made from dead cells), the Casparian strip undamaged (generally not an issue), the stomata clean (no smoking in the grow rooms ;) )... I suppose that if the mineral content of the soil/nutrient solution is too high, it could interfere with osmosis at the root level - but one would surely notice that. Good airflow to evaporate the transpired moisture - and to provide a cooling affect at the plant. Adequate moisture levels in the soil would be assumed. Oh, and if you're using some kind of surfactant to lower the surface tension of the water/solution, that would tend to throw a monkey wrench in the system, because it sort of depends on the adhesion and cohesion properties of water to work correctly in the first place.

Oh... and having typed all that, lol, if your strain's natural environment is a cool one (Swiss strains, maybe?), then "YMMV" applies. Come to think of it, it almost always does, regardless of the discussion :laughtwo: .

I'm rambling again (whodathunkit?). I just... you know... I stuck a piece of tape on my laptop above the display and wrote "ON-TOPIC!!!" on it :rolleyes3 .
Well what would you consider to be the best average temperature WITHOUT supplemental co2? I understand that with it you want between 80-85. But without I have read and heard 76 was perfect. Now every strain is different but I think 76-80 would be comfortable. I went in there this morning just after lights went on and it was 73 as it was still warming up. AC was off and we have our temp/hygrometer at the furthest point away from the AC as it has its own current temp display on it. We now have complete control over the environment and it feels wonderful. Plus when you walk in and see this, it kinda puts a smile on your face.





But hey, don't worry about the long posts. I enjoy the read and it's full of valuable info. When canna catches me reading one of your posts, all I have to say is that you posted something and it's understood that I'll be a few minutes reading. Don't change that. You see the world differently and makes us stop and think. You are good for this forum and the world. :thumb::bravo:
 
Okay, I will (perhaps somewhat optimistically) agree with you there. But even I have to admit that sometimes the... information is not only not germane to the topic at hand, it also might not be of interest to anyone (on the entire planet, lol). Like... I don't even remember what the discussion was about, it was years ago and on a forum that dealt with certain types of... communications equipment (never mind ;) ). Anyway, I submitted a reply in a thread and was informed that it had gone over the character limit by, IDK, ten or twelve paragraphs or something like that. So I went back to pare it down a little - and saw that I began the trainwreck with a discourse about methyl ethyl ketone and how something that you can spray onto a surface, exhale a lungful of smoke at it... and would actually "capture" and hold onto the smoke for several seconds... couldn't be healthy to inhale for 48 hours/week. I won't say that the (many) things that I bounced to from there were even more off-topic - because such a statement seems kind of silly, considering - but they certainly weren't any closer to the thread topic or even the forum's subject matter. And I must have spent 40 minutes typing away on the post. <SHRUGS> I really don't mean to, but it happens. It's like when my brain got built, lol, there was a whole bunch of wire left over... so it just got connected every which way until all the extra got used, too. It makes life... ... ... ... interesting at times. It also means that my perfect relationship match is a woman with an IQ of like 186. Who is schizophrenic. <SIGH>

So - and this goes for everyone, in every thread - do not be afraid to give me a virtual kick in the seat of my pants if you feel it is warranted.

The topic at hand is always laced with alternative threads of reality. Some people are more adventurous and candid while expounding on these threads. Not all understand and not all need to. I can't write as long as you or even with the humility/humor you do. But, I can appreciate you for this. To read your posts and experiences as you write them is cool and if you ever meet this women of 186 and schizoprenic i can't wait to read of this as well.

MEK was in a past life for me as well. Meh. Glad that's over. Got any of that wiring in surplus I could sure use some.

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Re: Welcome All My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - Canna M & Nismo12 Team Up!

Quick question. What ratio peroxide/water do use when sprouting germed seeds?



Peaceful blazing
1 cap full of 30% h202 per 16 oz of water. We usually have a cracked seed after 18 hours or so.
 
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