Welcome All My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - Canna M & Nismo12 Team Up!

Hey Nis! I just wanted to :thankyou: for the info on the light.:thumb: I did some research and the Amare gets some amazing reviews. A little pricey, but hey, what the hell, I only have to buy it once and you only get what you pay for. :;)::cheesygrinsmiley::grinjoint:
Hoping you and Canna are having a great day and a better evening. Here::passitleft:
 
I want one. Ltet guys. Have good night. Dabs n the morn n a lil more Mother of Berries.
C y'all then

Phrum the light room.
 
Hey C,...don't get up , that last post ....take a nap.....:rofl: You go six days,...no cigs, you rock !!:thumb::cheertwo::cheertwo: As all before me...you can do it. when ya feel like that,...like yelling , or breaking something....DON'T...you are becoming a stronger person...to have battled a very difficult addiction. If you stay off the cigs...you may live longer....easy now eh. Hold up your hand and see your kids,...then think of cancer. Pretty easy eh,...that's what helped me,..seeing my dying mom, from cancer , in one hand , and my , then two yr. old son , in the other. Easy , peasy! Just DO IT!
Oh ya BTW like the few words about .........

Have an awesome night Canna, Nis , and friends!
Should prolly get over to my own journal eh...2 friggen hours , just cruisin...havn't been there yet,..i'm excited to see everyone at my place. Cheers eh!

Yeah, the post from ts is right up Nis's alley. I don't study lights, I study recipes and make great food with cannabis. Lol. We both learn many things separately so we are a well rounded team, ya know?

I only felt the urge to smoke twice today. The urge passed as soon as it comes on. That's cool. I think I'll head upstarts and roll an after dinner mint (joint). Lol!

I bet you get to your journal with and see many congratulations! Yay! I'm happy to see you got it!!
 
Re: Welcome All My Friends To The Show That Never Ends - Canna M & Nismo12 Team Up!

Did a little tinkering with the light tonight to answer some questions. Couldn't do much since the lights were going out in 15 minutes. We had a brand new kill a watt meter just waiting to be used. The last one took a little more than a 15 amp load and popped. :oops: So this one was just wanting to have a reason to use it.

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Here is the total wattage with all the lights on. They call it a 450...so maybe rounded down.

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Amp draw...you can tell that the people who designed these lights grow cannabis. I see what you did Amare :thumb:

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Just the 6 cobs. Running at 50 watts each I see.

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The 60 - 5 watt monos

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UVB bulb

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Then the COBs and the mono

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And here it is through the side air vents.

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Didn't get a picture of the voltage but it was right at 115v. So the math adds up between the lights. Since the actual wattage was 481 and we got 371 grams off of the first plant... that brings it down to .77 gpw. Still not a bad number at all. It'll take over a pound to make it 1 gpm. I think the way to get the most gpw it could be done in a 4x4 and a SOG. That's not our style right now but I could see us doing a 90 day SOG some day. Just for kicks setup both rooms and have two giant Seas of beauty. I could see us easily getting 1 gram per watt in both rooms.

Now here is the purple kush reveg under it now. She is showing some beautiful flowers so far. Love the way they look.

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I tested the off brand LED that said it was comparable to a 900 watt HID...well it read 253 wall watts. Well then. As soon as I plugged it in when we bought it I wanted to return it. But then thought that we would give it a shot as it was only $200 and it would pay for itself then we could get a different one. Wouldn't mind having one a light mover where that one sits currently and get more coverage...hmmmm. But here is the fruit punch under it at almost 5 weeks.

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Also took a couple pictures of the carnival since she really doesn't get the coverage on here that she deserves. She is a beautiful plant and has a great structure. One of her tops was starting to lean so I put a stake in there just for her to lean against. Sorry about the yellow and purple pictures tonight. That's one thing I like about Amare' light as you see more natural color.

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In the veg room thought I would show the beauty of training from yesterday. As everyone is standing up looking to the sky. Kinda want to top the Dark Angel (front left) one more time on each top and train half of them to the center. What do ya think?

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Well what went from just wanting to post about the light kinda turned into an update. So there they are for this evening. Tomorrow they will be getting fed in flower and during the weekend for the veg room. Everyone have a good night and congrats to last months contest winners and good luck to this months nominees. This one is for you guys and gals. :Namaste: Stay classy.


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Looks great as always.:thumb: And Thanks Again for letting me know about Amare.:thanks:


Not a problem man. Considering in research it is said that HPS is the best option for flowering. This light will give that claim a run for its money. If you put two of these up against a 1000 watt HPS, these would win. Now we do not have experience with a 1000 watt HPS so can't confirm that but its just my opinion. I've seen plenty of guys get well over 1 gpw with an HPS. But if we could have a full room of these lights...oh yeah. Hell 3 on light movers would be perfect.
 
Also, congrats Canna for NOTM!:goodjob: Second place ain't nuthin' to sneeze at.:clap:

Here, you and Nis share this! :passitleft: Just cause you're great folks!:circle-of-love::Namaste:
 
Not surprising to me at all. Coder are notorious stoners and generally feel free to bend rules whenever. The suits that work for Blue Labs are no doubt aware of the anomaly but see it as a sales bonus.
I babysit and configure hardware as part of my work. I often choose 420 for whatever value when I configure things. A few of my co-workers have called me on it... nobody that cares or counts.... so I toss it around whenever I can.
 
looking great guys. I especially like that purple kush
She was a clone taken from her mom at 6 weeks in flower. We were excited that she took and she full on exploded with growth. Her size is just how she grew with a little persuasion. Great smell and purple color is in her future.
 
Not surprising to me at all. Coder are notorious stoners and generally feel free to bend rules whenever. The suits that work for Blue Labs are no doubt aware of the anomaly but see it as a sales bonus.
I babysit and configure hardware as part of my work. I often choose 420 for whatever value when I configure things. A few of my co-workers have called me on it... nobody that cares or counts.... so I toss it around whenever I can.

Dude! I think I've seen you on TV!

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Awesome post with lots of information and no rambling. I had to give you a reputation point boost for that, lol.

The last one took a little more than a 15 amp load and popped.

Apparently, they're manufactured at the WalMart level of quality and standards. A while back I stumbled across a thread about (easily and cheaply) repairing them with upgraded components. It was on one of those electric car forums and people were testing their chargers - that were well within the allowable load range for the Kill A Watt devices - and melting bits of the things by leaving them connected overnight, lol. That's where I read the bit about how to calibrate them. IIRC, there was something about being able to set it to 240(?)V mode, too. Anyway, the calibration procedure is initiated by a simple button combination - so be careful not to press more than one button at a time.

Here is the total wattage with all the lights on. They call it a 450...so maybe rounded down.

Or maybe the "450" figure is without considering the UV bulb - which is how I'd do it - and allowing for losses in the power supply (et cetera). IOW, 450 watts actually reach the COBs and mono-color LEDs. That is, of course, just a guess. But my last Lumatek 400-watt ballast used a 400-watt bulb... but consumed something like 471 watts (IIRC).

Amp draw...you can tell that the people who designed these lights grow cannabis. I see what you did Amare

Lol. Yeah, they are in league with your electric company and your house's wiring.

Hmm... Interesting. According to your pictures, the COB switch pulls 305 watts and the mono-color LED switch pulls 172 watts. That's 477 watts. But you saw 466 watts with both switches activated. Oh - all the fans run off of either switch. OOPS, I didn't catch that when I posted my numbers. Do you suppose that means all the fans only draw 11 watts?

And here it is through the side air vents.

You're getting some "side-scatter," too, I see.

Since the actual wattage was 481 and we got 371 grams off of the first plant... that brings it down to .77 gpw.

If it was me doing the calculating, I would NOT count the UV bulb. Yes, it's a light, lol. But I consider it more of a... modifier. It's a narrow-wavelength, low-wattage, low-intensity fluorescent bulb. My guess is that your harvest's mass wouldn't be less had you chosen not to use it. Its purpose, AfaIK, was to invoke a protective stress-response in the plants.

Therefore, I'd call it 371 grams per 466 watts, or .796 g/w. Or .8 g/w if you wish to round it (I would - it looks better ;) and .004 gram won't get me high).

Still not a bad number at all.

13¼ ounces is a nice bit of cannabis.

I think the way to get the most gpw it could be done in a 4x4 and a SOG. That's not our style right now but I could see us doing a 90 day SOG some day. Just for kicks setup both rooms and have two giant Seas of beauty. I could see us easily getting 1 gram per watt in both rooms.

You could try playing around with the lenses - maybe removing some whilst keeping others in place to tune the footprint (and intensity across same). Have you looked at the PPFD or whatever those diagrams are that show the light's intensity at a certain height? They ought to have one with lenses and one without. You'll notice that the intensity doesn't have quadrilateral symmetry either way, because the lighting components are set up as two rows of three sets.

When you're chasing yield, it sort of becomes the priority over other things - and those other things are important, too, IMHO. Type of effect, length of same, potency of same, flavor, aroma... Strain choice is a significant thing. As you mentioned, you could go with a SoG - perhaps nine plants per square foot in those square (as seen from the top) pots, or pack in as many two-liter bottles as you can (which might be a little bit less than 9/ft²), filling the grow space with uniformly-sized clones that have decent root systems but received little or no vegetation time after they left the cloner, basically going straight into flower and shooting for 10-13 grams each. IDK if that would do it or not... Well, let's see... If you could get 9/ft², and manage to average 10 grams per, in a 4'x4' tent, that'd be 1,440 grams, lol, or about 51.4 ounces. But that strain would be a heavy indica, methinks. I'm not at all sure that I wouldn't much rather have half that much of a good sativa instead...

Now here is the purple kush reveg under it now. She is showing some beautiful flowers so far. Love the way they look.

I tested the off brand LED that said it was comparable to a 900 watt HID...well it read 253 wall watts. Well then.

LMAO @ a 253-watt "900 watt HID equivalent" - I hope Canna doesn't let you open those spam emails that advertise extreme err... growth. They probably don't sound half so ridiculous.

it was only $200

OtOH, that's ~$1.27/watt - and that 450+UVB costs, what... a grand or a little more? IF that other panel is reasonably efficient (low electrical losses) and manages to produce a halfway decent intensity, it might actually be... not too bad of a deal. I'd consider it a "250-watt class lighting device," though, and if it performed better than a 250-watt HPS, I'd call it a win. If the quality was high enough to last through, IDK, three years of continuous grow room operation, at least.

Wouldn't mind having one a light mover where that one sits currently and get more coverage...hmmmm.

Years ago, I had a Sun Circle that had two HPS and one MH. I'd like to see such a setup with a HPS, a MH, and a high-quality LED panel (probably an Amare Technologies one). The size of the MH would depend on the wavelengths/intensity of the LED panel; maybe the same as the HPS, maybe the next size down. But IDK that it would produce any better than a good LED setup (or a good HID one), watt for watt.

That's one thing I like about Amare' light as you see more natural color.

Running just the mono-color LEDs, does your SE450+UVB's light output appear to be ever so slightly blue? That's how this one is, and it's really pleasing to the eye. Adding the COBs seems to, IDK, naturalize(?) the color quite a bit - but I like the bluish a little better. Would probably make a great all-around light for the home (and a prohibitively expensive one - when it comes down to it, I could read with a candle... and save the LED for growing cannabis :rolleyes3 ). I had to throw in a little rambling, otherwise y'all would wonder if someone hacked my account ;) ...

BtW, your pictures/plants look beautiful.
 
geesum crow that is a lot O typing :cheesygrinsmiley:... just rambling
 
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