Maybe some cannabis flavoured venison favoured bear? I hope it doesn’t come to that.

Sitting in my yard trimming up a couple plants today and I looked up to see this guy sniffing around the old truck in driveway just now. Can’t say it didn’t give me a jolt. He wandered back out the driveway again.
 
Holy shamoley man... They quite hunters or boom crash? Do you need your wits about you or do they give enough warning?
 
I think that one might have cubs. Or someone just told me they saw a bear with cubs near here this week.
They’re absolutely dead quiet on those huge furry feet when they want to be. That huge one that demolished my house- It would walk right to the top of my stairs to the door as I sat right there on the other side listening for it, and I wouldn’t hear a sound till it started ripping apart likely lookin containers.

My friend and I were sitting dead quiet on his porch one night and one padded right past. We couldn’t hear it and it was only ten feet away. It was weird- like a ghost.

They’re not really hunters, Just the salmon in the fall and a bit of scavenged meat when they get lucky. They shamble around doing their own thing eating plants and digging up bugs and have a sort of slow and oblivious energy. For the most part when you yell at them they run off. You do that a few hundred times in your life and you get sort of used to it. Then the one in a hundred times they don’t run off, and keep walking towards you, you realize there isn't always a plan B in your pocket.
Also they move like lightning when they want to and can turn from something slothlike into something that looks more like a puma in a hurry. So it’s hard to know where to draw the line after you’ve had a few bad experiences.
I’m just going to make sure I keep things clean around here and it should move on hopefully.

Anyway... back to the trimming.
 
I harvested two plants today. This one is the first I’ve harvested of one of the two new P Chunks. Another droopy floppy monstrosity. It’s quite different than the other new PC. To the point I wouldn’t necessarily know it to be the same strain if it hadn’t been written on the seed package. The structure is different - reminds me a bit of Ace Panama with big chunky yet crisp textured buds, and pointy calyxes everywhere. The smell is like the dank sickly fruit smell of the other PCs but after it got pissed on by several cats.
To be honest I’m most sure how much of its identity has been shaped by the deficiencies that have been showing up everywhere in the room lately. I think it might look different next time. You can see the crispy leaves in the first couple pics. The leaf stems are brittle and snap off easily and the bud is drier and less sticky than it should be, IMO.






I started messing around with Hydro Buddy and trying to change the feeding programs and the plants haven’t been very impressed with my efforts so far. But I’m hopeful it’s just necessary pain in order to make progress. Still beats throwing nutrients into the pots without any real hope of knowing what I’m giving the plants. I think...
 
With my new feeding mixes the plants have been turning fancy new colours. Lots of purple stems, yellow leaves with mottled shades of green in between. Here are a couple pics of the latest ones. Also you can see in the leaf in the foreground how it’s sort of crumpled - there are lots of those.


I don’t expect to be able to dissect this mess. I’m just going to keep varying the potions till I find one that they don’t hate too much.
 
This is the other one I harvested. Tutankhamen. After the bear interrupted my PC harvest I brought the rifle down to my spot with me. Felt pretty hillbilly working there with the weed and the rifle, ha ha.

This Tut seems like good stuff. I haven’t fully sampled it yet. Did try some one day and liked it but then got into the Strawberry Blue which I loved, and never made it back to the Tut to smoke more. But it sure looks good. Hard to tell from the pics but it has all the stickiness that the PC2 lacked.

I didn't get any pics of the whole plant. Actually it’s main stem snapped right in half from the weight of its buds when I brought it out of flowering. Just picture a floppy mess like all the other plants I’ve harvested lately. Yielded well.



 
What bottles are you using again? Is it Botanicare Calmag and PBP Bloom? I have those in my HB, and noticed they're lacking in micros. The calmag has 0.1% Fe, but that's it, none of the other 5 (Mn, B, Zn, Cu, Mo). Also, what numbers are you using now? I'd like to see how they match to the Megacrop that all the cool kids now use. I know the P values will be vastly different, but how close does everything else get? FWIW, too much P will precipitate your Ca and cancel out both for a while.
 
Looks darn healthy that one. Must be the one that ate the dear that ate the sprouts that ate yer compost that ate your kitchen scraps after you ate your salad

Funny world all right

Cheers friend
 
What bottles are you using again? Is it Botanicare Calmag and PBP Bloom? I have those in my HB, and noticed they're lacking in micros. The calmag has 0.1% Fe, but that's it, none of the other 5 (Mn, B, Zn, Cu, Mo). Also, what numbers are you using now? I'd like to see how they match to the Megacrop that all the cool kids now use. I know the P values will be vastly different, but how close does everything else get? FWIW, too much P will precipitate your Ca and cancel out both for a while.


My latest attempt is using PBP bloom, Calmag, and GH micro. Based on your ‘mid bloom’ ratios or as close as I could get using only these three bottles. The micros just land wherever they land for now and I’ll worry more about those some later day.

N- 88
P- 63
K- 152
Mg. - 40
Ca - 110

I supplement the N a little when needed. I haven’t had time to see if this latest mix is working yet. Previously I tried higher Ca and P levels.
The aim with this latest mix is to see if things imorove without the Epsom salts. They are high ppm and skew the concentration upwards a lot so maybe part of the problem was just underfeeding- especially since your mix is designed for someone feeding multiple times a day.
I don’t think I can just blame underfeeding due to the fancy colours I’ve been getting.
Your Ca vs P idea sounds promising. Digging up some clay to mix in the ‘soil’ for calcium has been on the list for ages but I still haven’t found time to stop at the easy clay digging spot. Maybe that would fix this though.


Looks darn healthy that one. Must be the one that ate the dear that ate the sprouts that ate yer compost that ate your kitchen scraps after you ate your salad

Funny world all right

Cheers friend

It does look pretty sleek and healthy. I hope that it is and stays that way. It’s going to be trouble if it’s starving, like a lot of our animals and sea life seems to be around here these days. :(
 
Your numbers look a lot lower than your default regimen you used for years. IMO, your N is too low. GH Flora Micro is very good, they even have some exotic metals in there which I wish I could find for my blend. Just as long as you have a viable source was my only concern there. Keep an eye out for Soft Rock Phosphate. I just read THIS great article this morning. It says that the SRP keeps the calcium suspended in the soil so it doesn't get washed out. SRP is what's used to amend the promix in the DBHBB. I haven't crossed any info about using clay for cal, but I'll keep an eye out for it as I live in a very clay rich area, baseball diamond stuff.

Immediately, I suggest getting your N up nearer to 100. It would be good if there was as much as 10% of your N as NH4+, but that's only good till about mid bloom and then you don't want any NH4+. FWIW, the ratio of NO3 to NH4 in Megacrop is 19:1. I'm playing around with 10:1, so anywhere between is definitely safe.

Those numbers should be good to stay away from the Epsom though my research suggests Epsom is great in moderation. I love all the extra S I get from it, but 40ppm looks like a good ratio compared to 110 of Cal. 2:1 - 3:1 is the sweet spot.
 
Thanks Skybound. In a bit of a rush atm but-
In all my other mixes the N has been in the 100- 120 range.
In this case I had to accept the lower N just to make the other numbers match. It doesn’t mean much and the N level isn’t the source of my issues. I can easily add N from various sources and that’s what I plan to do if they’re looking deficient.
 
Ya know... when I see red, it means I'm not feeding enough. I'm too hot to see much natural red on most strains... most. I think it's a sign of a one of the "P"s (Pot or Phos). Of course, deficiencies can be a PH problem as well.
I'm watching your babies with a tight eye. You're a few steps down the trail in front of me and I wanna miss any swingin branches.... or bears.
 
OH... wait... maybe it was low N... shit... such a stoner.
Anyway... somethin's low. Turn up the feed pipe. Don't forget, it's not soil so everything comes from the feed.
I'm pumping my blooming perlite hempies at 12g/gal MegaCrop.... so I expect to be near there with the new girls in the peat/perl mix.

Aint 12 grams a gallon a double dose of MC?
 
I tried high P and K levels based on HydroBuddy and still got major issues which looked like K deficiency to me. Not sure why- when the Botanicare schedule seems to use high P and K as well. The only major difference in ingredients was the Epsom salts so I’ve quit that for now.


Ok I just bought 5lb of the soft rock phosphate. Only $9 with $20 shipping which is not a deal I’d normally ever accept but wtf I was too lazy to keep searching and in the end it’s only $30. I want to try and gradually get some basic elements in the shelf so I can escape the Monsanto bottled nutrients and the issues I keep having. TBH at this point I just want my plants to stop looking crappy :laughtwo:

I figured there was more than underfeeding at work because of the very rapid colour change after I fed them my concoctions. Even if the feed was light they should take a while to burn through it, no? When underfeeding I generally get overall yellowing, white spots and deficiencies on lower growth first. But not immediate and uniform yellowing with bright purple stems.
I would have thought a ph issues but I’ve let mixes sit overnight and found no ph shifting issues.

I flushed everything after the previous debacle and I think the last mix seems to be going down ok so far.

I’ve been using bunny manure in veg which works really well.
It’s 2.4- 1.4- 0.6
All my garden and greenhouse plants are thriving on it.
I haven’t been using it in flowering other than a couple times in very small amounts when the N seemed low.
 
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