Vick074-OG Kush Last Run in CocoSoil-CO2-1KHPS-5X5Tent-with Porta Scrogs!? Porta Wha?

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You should have an electrician you trust unless you are one to come and see what he could do. I am feeling you on the bills too my man.

I would just downsize for the time being. It should keep you in meds and save you money I would think. But when you have the space its a shame to let it go to waste I know that feeling.

Keep looking for a new spot in the meantime. But when you do that it is basically time to start from scratch.

Good luck brahddah
 
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jon705 said:
300 bucks including your apartment?
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Well the 300 is for our main floor and upstairs of the house.
Including the downstairs tenants, but they barely use any.
It has never been this much in the 6 months that they have been living downstairs..
Plus the lights only flicker when they're home. Which makes me think it's an illegal suite downstairs and the power was just stretched from the existing wiring from main floor and upstairs.
SOG or hempies could be an option and I was thinking of that too.
At least I'd be getting some meds, and things would be a lot easier to maintain..


Hiker said:
That's barely not a DSLR :winkyface:
Saying it's a P&S is like saying a Porsche is just a car haha

LOL, yeah I know.
technically it is just a P&S but I know what you mean.
It's like the Ferrari of point and shoots for sure.:)



I know it's a rental, but you could thing of most of the materials as equipment investment. Run your own dedicated circuits.

Safety is always the primary concern with dealing with electricity. I'm not gonna lecture other than to say, if in doubt, stop and ask someone who really knows.

You can run wire on the surface of walls. You will probably have to make some small holes to go through walls, but those are easily patched. There are surface mount electrical boxes and everything. You can basically add an entire circuit to your house without having to rip anything up and you can then remove it when you move. Sure, it will be more work involved with setup and tear down, but if your alternative is to not grow at all. well...

I don't know what your place looks like or how it's all setup, but try to find a route from your circuit box to the grow area. I would run at least 2 circuits, a 240 and a 120. You will need room in the breaker box too. If it's full, it will probably have a bunch of the older and larger breakers. They now make breakers that can put 2 circuits into one slot. This will let you simply exchange one of the old breakers for the new dual breaker to gain another spot for a circuit. For the 240v, you might be able to do the same thing at an existing 240 circuit, but it depends on what you have and what breakers you can find. I was looking for a 20A/30A dual 240V breaker, and it took several stores until I found it. Luckily I wasn't waiting on it, so I just kept looking at every store I visited until I found it.

Good luck. I'd like to see pictures if you wire up your own circuit. Granted I can't wait until my basement is all built out, but I do kind of like the design and construction part :)
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Thanks man!
The thing is hiker,
I can't start messing around with the breaker box.
here's why,
It's mounted in the "shared" laundry room in a part of the basement, in which the downstairs tenants live. And to get the wiring up to the room would have to go through 2 floors and then the opposite side corner of the house.
The downstairs tenants are friends with the landlord, so me messing around with the box, cutting holes, and rewiring shit would most certainly have them saying something to the landlord. And even if I was to ask the landlord to re-wire it he'd be asking why?
I think my only other option is to just flat out tell him I'm growing for medicinal purposes and I need more power!
The worst he could say is, "Ummm, No?" And then boom, we have to move.

I'll try and take some photos of the breaker box downstairs tonight.
Another thing that might work, is when we first moved in, they installed a plug (which is on the other side of the breaker box) in the little shop. A dedicated plug he called it. Because I kept tripping the breaker every time I used a power tool, or the compressor. What if I was to somehow run this wire upstairs and just run the 2 lights off it, then run the rest of the fans and such off the 2 wall plugs?

And one more question for you hiker?
Any idea why the lights all over the whole house are flickering?
Could that mean that a wire is about to short out because of too much load?
 
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Vick074 said:
Photo Update Day 35 of flower
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Awesome!!
 
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Vick074 said:
I'll try and take some photos of the breaker box downstairs tonight.
Another thing that might work, is when we first moved in, they installed a plug (which is on the other side of the breaker box) in the little shop. A dedicated plug he called it. Because I kept tripping the breaker every time I used a power tool, or the compressor. What if I was to somehow run this wire upstairs and just run the 2 lights off it, then run the rest of the fans and such off the 2 wall plugs?

And one more question for you hiker?
Any idea why the lights all over the whole house are flickering?
Could that mean that a wire is about to short out because of too much load?
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I'm not sure why the light would "flicker". Are they fluorescent? Is it the kind of flicker that is more a change in brightness or an actual on/off cycle? Does that make sense? lol Is it everywhere in the house? Are all the affected lights on the same circuit?

I remember you talking about that situation with the breaker. Sorry I get mixed up sometimes. I think that "dedicated" circuit is your solution. Is that plug in a private area that only you use, or can the other tenants go there as well? Either way you can use it, but the solution might be different. If that is a new circuit with nothing else on it, just tap it there, and run a wire to your grow area. Just don't run your table saw when the light are on. :winkyface:
 
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Hiker said:
I'm not sure why the light would "flicker". Are they fluorescent? Is it the kind of flicker that is more a change in brightness or an actual on/off cycle? Does that make sense? lol Is it everywhere in the house? Are all the affected lights on the same circuit?

I remember you talking about that situation with the breaker. Sorry I get mixed up sometimes. I think that "dedicated" circuit is your solution. Is that plug in a private area that only you use, or can the other tenants go there as well? Either way you can use it, but the solution might be different. If that is a new circuit with nothing else on it, just tap it there, and run a wire to your grow area. Just don't run your table saw when the light are on. :winkyface:
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Yep like a crazy difference in brightness. Like someones jammin the fader switch..
and not just one or 2 lights but EVERY light in the whole house, not just upstairs, but downstairs tenants notice it too.
I'm going to take a few photo's of the box and the dedicated line and maybe you can see better what I mean.

Thanks again Hiker!
This whole thing is bumming me out.
Not only me, but the old lady is almost OCD when it comes to things that could start a fire. She's been known to run back inside the house to make sure the stove was off, before going out.
So you could imagine the heat I get from her when I start talking about things not being right with the wiring.
Then the lights start flickering?? And I get the look.
you know the one, :skeptical:

edit: yeah that plug is in MY shop so the other tenants don't have access to it only me..
 
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That doesn't sound to me like the type of flicker from a short. First, it's every light in the house. You don't have a short coming into the house hehe. Second, a short related flicker would tend to be 'darker' flickers. You didn't say if you're all using CFLs or incandescent bulbs. I suspect florescents. Your flicker is probably related to the power coming into the house. The word alternating, in Alternating Current, describes the change in voltage over time. When you graph that change vs time, you get a wave pattern that is supposed to look like a perfect sine curve. There are lots of reasons why that perfect, 60hz, signal wave is not perfect. So imagine that perfect sine wave, then imagine a small bump somewhere on the curve. That can cause that flicker. The landlord could install something to help smooth that out if it's coming from outside the meter, but the interference could also be coming from something in your house.

Use that shop circuit for your grow area. Since most of us run out lights at night, you should still be able to run your tools during the day :)

As far as the Mrs and her concerns about the electricity, don't let her watch you do the electrical work. You will never convince her you know what you're doing. If you haven't convinced yourself, don't do it at all. hehe
 
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jon705 said:
my guess is to much draw on the service and that basement apartment is almost definetly not up to code, it should have its own panel.
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Yep I definitely think you're right jon.
That and the fact that I don't think my landlord probably wasn't expecting his tenants to be growing in his house. lol
I have an identical ballast as the one I'm using now. A quantum dimable 1000 watt. And I was thinking that I might try and change it out for the other one in hopes that might be part of the problem. But it's weird, because Ive even tested it at night, by turning everything of mine OFF upstairs, fans, ballasts, heaters, but shit still flickers when the downstairs tenants are doing laundry or using the stove. They've even blown out our breakers putting the kettle on with no lights on upstairs? So I'm trippin!
If I went through all the trouble of running that dedicated wire up to my room, and shit's still flickering and tripping breakers I'm going to have no choice but to shut shit down.
This really sucks too, because I've been working so hard to dial in this strain and my environment, and to have to shut down just because I don't have enough power will be fu**ing devastating. And trying to convince the wife that we have to move because I can't grow here will be damn near impossible.
 
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Hiker said:
That doesn't sound to me like the type of flicker from a short. First, it's every light in the house. You don't have a short coming into the house hehe. Second, a short related flicker would tend to be 'darker' flickers. You didn't say if you're all using CFLs or incandescent bulbs. I suspect florescents. Your flicker is probably related to the power coming into the house. The word alternating, in Alternating Current, describes the change in voltage over time. When you graph that change vs time, you get a wave pattern that is supposed to look like a perfect sine curve. There are lots of reasons why that perfect, 60hz, signal wave is not perfect. So imagine that perfect sine wave, then imagine a small bump somewhere on the curve. That can cause that flicker. The landlord could install something to help smooth that out if it's coming from outside the meter, but the interference could also be coming from something in your house.

Use that shop circuit for your grow area. Since most of us run out lights at night, you should still be able to run your tools during the day :)

As far as the Mrs and her concerns about the electricity, don't let her watch you do the electrical work. You will never convince her you know what you're doing. If you haven't convinced yourself, don't do it at all. hehe
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It happens with the incandescent and flouros all throughout, even the TV flickers..Ha!
I'm going down now to take some photos..
Post them up in a sec.
Thanks again for your sparky expertise bro.
It's definitely not something I'm schooled on.
 
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Vick074 said:
Yep I definitely think you're right jon.
That and the fact that I don't think my landlord probably wasn't expecting his tenants to be growing in his house. lol
I have an identical ballast as the one I'm using now. A quantum dimable 1000 watt. And I was thinking that I might try and change it out for the other one in hopes that might be part of the problem. But it's weird, because Ive even tested it at night, by turning everything of mine OFF upstairs, fans, ballasts, heaters, but shit still flickers when the downstairs tenants are doing laundry or using the stove. They've even blown out our breakers putting the kettle on with no lights on upstairs? So I'm trippin!
If I went through all the trouble of running that dedicated wire up to my room, and shit's still flickering and tripping breakers I'm going to have no choice but to shut shit down.
This really sucks too, because I've been working so hard to dial in this strain and my environment, and to have to shut down just because I don't have enough power will be fu**ing devastating. And trying to convince the wife that we have to move because I can't grow here will be damn near impossible.
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ok I missed the part about a dedicated line, that just supports my theory that theres to much draw on the service.Its probably a 100 amp service designed basically for a small house(1 stove 1 fridge ect).I think they ran wire from your plugs straight down and installed plugs for the basement appartment that way.Its totally illegal, and possibly a fire hazzard even if your not growing,maybe thats how you can convince the wife bro(we gotta move this place isnt safe):)
 
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Jon just gave me another idea. Plug a light into that dedicated plug and watch to see if it flickers too. If it does, then the breaker box is overloaded or it's something in the AC wave pattern. If it doesn't, then the other circuits are just overloaded.
 
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So here's a photo I just took of the breaker box that's in the shared laundry room.

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breaker_2.jpg


The copper wire going through the wall into the shop goes directly to this dedicated plug.

breaker_3.jpg


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This is the other side of the breaker box where power is coming into house.

breaker_4.jpg
 
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jon705 said:
yep, Hikers right if that dedicated line isnt overdrawn you could run your light off of it,you could probably run 2 600's of of it actually and run everything else off the plugs in the room.
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rad,
How do I know if it's overdrawn or not?
Sorry guys, like I said, wiring is foreign to me.
I might need a complete hand holding through this.
 
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Hiker said:
Jon just gave me another idea. Plug a light into that dedicated plug and watch to see if it flickers too. If it does, then the breaker box is overloaded or it's something in the AC wave pattern. If it doesn't, then the other circuits are just overloaded.
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right on,
thanks hiker, I'll do that a bit later and let you know what happens.
Sorry I missed this response in between mine.
And if it does flicker meaning the breaker box is overloaded, am I pretty much buggered?
 
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Phuckin awesome
 
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Oh trust me I know jon, and trust me, I really appreciate the sparky advice by you and hiker, for real.
Doesn't change the fact I'm right ****ing PO'd about my situation..
I mean I just wanna grow some meds God Damnit!
Why does it have to be this B.S. holding me back..

Why!? WHY!!!!

Ok, I feel better now.
just had to blurt that out..
:)
 

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