Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant SOG

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

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Some one's got there army all lined up for battle. now lets some some hand grenades! ;)
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Are you referring to Lollipopping?

It is a constant debate on whether Lollipopping & Defoliating is beneficial. Personally I think even though you are sacrificing some valuable fan leaves, it aids in ripening the buds from the extra light.

Lollipopping also helps get an ample amount of air circulation under and around the canopy which helps prevent mold as well as other things which is especially helpful in Scrogs and sometimes SOG's because of such a dense canopy. It is also helpful to Defoliate and/or Lollipop if you are using low wattage lights because they don't penetrate the canopy as well.

I don't think it adds more bud sites, however it increases the production of the ones already existing.

I hope you don't mind me adding to the discussion Vape

Debate is what I'm looking for bro! I suspect I will have to do some level of pruning...but how much and when? Things are good at the moment, and I'm liking how the lower branches are stretching to fill in the canopy at the moment...
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Picking up those Air-pots in 2 weeks. Trying to strike a deal with this guy for a Blackstar led panel. Keep your fingers crossed for me!
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Wow , just read this bout the rats, being tested, yeah they withheld certaint minerals from them, some would not make it out of the maze, and yes some test showed that the rats over a period of time killed, as in our box food society, all the test symtoms are well in our lives, and I dont think its by accident either, the more I find the more I see ol uncle sam has had an agenda to limit our awarness to grow healthy, on our own, but we depend on their madness, and let this High brix be a thing of just ones hobby, I think it sould be more than hobby, it should be way of life!, Sorry vape I just get real ill on facts that had made me stupid for long time, now thanks to guys like you open the doors for ppl to not just grow bomb a$$ meds, but live like we should, and grow our foods the same way!

Everyone here already knows that our government has lied to us about the risks and benefits of this amazing plant...destroying countless lives in the process of enforcing these prohibition laws, just to line peoples pocketbooks...

Once you know your own government, with it's endless bureaucrats, looks you in the face, and lies to you on a daily basis, and will strip you of your freedom if you dare to disobey these sham laws, it kind of makes you wonder about the other things they tell you...doesn't it?

If we were on a jury, and the witness just got done telling us a heap of blatant lies, would we believe the next portion of their testimony? If not, then why do we believe the government when they tell us GMOs aren't harmful and won't even allow labeling on the food about it...You Californians have a ballot initiative coming up that would make CA the first state with mandatory GMO labeling laws, which I pray passes for all our sakes, but I digress...

Oh, and I can't remember...why did the government say the DHS just contracted companies to purchase 450 million rounds of .40 S&W hollow point ammunition, to go with the 200 million they have already purchased, and another 175 million rounds of .223 caliber ammo?
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hey there vape. I too have crazy viable lower branches. On some of my girls they are actually like to the canopy. And then my OG#18 has done its own thing. But I was doing some selective pruning and I got rid of what would of been suckers, and some fans here and there. But for the most part I am letting them do their own thing and I left almost all the lower stuff except for the first couple nodes I took for clones. But I am also going to be making concentrate and medibles so I want good trim and small stuff for that. But I also started my High Brix mineral soil 2/3 of the way through veg. But I kinda used something I picked up from 420fied I think? about defoliating at 21 days. So I kinda used a way way less drastic approach to that to open up already formed budsites. And Im also goin to give em some good food and a bunch of other good shit they like in the next day or two. Anyways my friend, :welldone: :high-five: :Namaste:
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I advise that you guys only prune for light penetration and watering ease. You've probably already noticed that High Brix plants bend and move to light really fast. You can watch them move in real time....about 10 minutes for the leaves to turn 90 degrees.

What I did on my harvest was take all the ripe tops last week, and this week I'm finishing up the last of the lower nugs, which have noticeably improved with all the light and the extra time. Let the little stuff grow, within reason, and just stagger the harvest.

As for mold and all that.....fuhgedaboudit. With High Brix all those worries are a thing of the past, given a reasonable environment.
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I advise that you guys only prune for light penetration and watering ease. You've probably already noticed that High Brix plants bend and move to light really fast. You can watch them move in real time....about 10 minutes for the leaves to turn 90 degrees.

What I did on my harvest was take all the ripe tops last week, and this week I'm finishing up the last of the lower nugs, which have noticeably improved with all the light and the extra time. Let the little stuff grow, within reason, and just stagger the harvest.

As for mold and all that.....fuhgedaboudit. With High Brix all those worries are a thing of the past, given a reasonable environment.

I had commented on how fast they moved a little while back... It was almost a little creepy at first!

You can see in the pic below...this plant was on the edge of the SOG, and it's turned to face the light, like a sunflower! I've never seen that before!



I do really like the idea of taking to tops first and letting the rest go a little longer! :thumb:
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant



I had commented on how fast they moved a little while back... It was almost a little creepy at first!

You can see in the pic below...this plant was on the edge of the SOG, and it's turned to face the light, like a sunflower! I've never seen that before!




I do really like the idea of taking to tops first and letting the rest go a little longer! :thumb:

You'll find that the plants do all kinds of things you've never seen before with High Brix. They'll taste way better, burn way longer, and also have smoother, but stronger potency. The effect of high brix weed is like the difference between and electric blanket and a thick down comforter. Both keep you warm, but the down is so much more comfortable and luxurious!

It's even more fun to examine the leaves and see mites....with no damage. Who the hell cares about mites? Choke 'em with healthy leaves.
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I didn't finish up last night...err...I guess I mean this morning, until after about 3:30 AM. But now I've had a chance to go through my photos, and collect my thoughts!

Before I post some pics of the girls, I wanted to talk about the Nature's Own Microbe Tea Soil Life and Activator, and the Yucca Schidigera Extract. To sum it up I was very impressed. These are both excellent products, and unless my plants fall over dead in the next couple of days, I won't be going without them in the future!

For brewing tea I use a 5 gallon DIY AACT brewer that consists of a bucket, some 1/2 PVC pipe and fittings, some air hose and an air pump. My brewer is a copy of the one posted here: Tea brewing, by madodah, but I don't use a heater.

It's really a scaled down version of the 25 gallon brewer that Oregon State University provided plans for here: Oregon State University 25 Gallon Compost Brewer.

This is what mine looks like.
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Monday night I started brewing 2 gallons of tea. The first thing I do is add the hottest tap water I can get out of the faucet, and run the air pump with the plain hot water until it cools down to 70-80º F, or until I remember I'm supposed to be brewing tea, an hour or so later. :)
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The Microbe Tea Soil Life and Activator is a powder that you add 1/4 cup of to each gallon of water.
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After I added 1/2 cup to the 2 gallons of now luke warm water, I stirred it up really well, and ended up with this.
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I brew in my basement, and although it's heated, I stick a square of fiberglass insulation under the bucket just so it's not sitting directly on the cold concrete/tile floor.

The instructions say to brew for 24 hours...when I got home last night it had been about 22 1/2 hours and this is what I had on my hands.
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It was a bit of a mess, but that is what we are after! It really does make regular EWC tea look rather sad in comparison! I didn't wait until the 24 hours was up...instead, I used it at this point.

I use paint strainers to filter the concentrated tea. They are about the best for this purpose IMHO. I've seen people use pantyhose, etc as a teabag/filter, but beneficial fungi can also be filtered out with some of these materials. The fine mesh of a paint strainer is perfect for this.
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After it's filtered (on the left) it needs to be diluted 1:9 with water...that's 1/2 gallon added to 4 1/2 gallons of water (on the right). At this point the ppm of chlorine in tap water isn't really high enough to harm that many of the beneficials in our concentrate, but I let the water sit 24 hours just the same.
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Now we need to add the Yucca extract. According to the bottle, there's two ways you can go...1/4 cup per 5 gallons of diluted tea, or 1/8 cup per quart of concentrated tea. I wasn't sure if I was going to use all the tea, so I went with 1/4 cup per 5 gallons of diluted tea so I wouldn't waste any Yucca.
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Yucca is a foaming agent, so once you add it and stir it in things will start to get a bit foamy. The pic above was taken before I mixed it up well. I decided to put the camera down at this point since it's not water proof! The diluted tea is then used as a soil drench and a foliar spray.

A couple things I noticed with the Yucca...first the soil seemed to absorb the tea more readily and second, the natural surfactant properties worked really well to coat the leaves for the foliar spray. Like I said...I won't go back to not using these products after seeing how they work!

Some pics of the girls to follow! :thumb:

Dude did you get those powders, and yucca with that kit? Hell ya bro you got a good efficent program, sorry if I got to bite some of your skills! lol
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Dude did you get those powders, and yucca with that kit? Hell ya bro you got a good efficent program, sorry if I got to bite some of your skills! lol

Thanks bro! I didn't buy the whole kit...just those two products. They are both worth it!
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thanks bro! I didn't buy the whole kit...just those two products. They are both worth it!

You can really get away with not having to purchase the whole kit as the sprayer and some of the other things you might not even use. And for all of the stuff you can definitely do a easy DIY project and then just buy the powders and yucca like you did. Good thinking my man!! :Namaste:
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Your leaves look amazing vapedeezy!!!! super heathy!!! and excellent photo journal of how to make your tea!!! I really like the DIY aerator!!! awesome man!!
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Damn I love this site, Up's to Vape for bringing up the subject, BIG Up's to Doc Bud for an answer so simple. Many people like myself would have pruned based on light penetration. That is what I learned to do with lower branches that are taking anything beneficial from the upper branches, or have no reasonable potential for larger growth. But it just makes sense to take the tops at the proper time, while allowing time for the lowers to develop more growth, making it worth the time and effort that got you to the point where you're making that choice for the future of your girl/girls. Good advice homie, I'm feel'n that adjustment.

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I really like your tea brewing set up, gotta bite off that, good look'n out Vape. My question, what is Microbe Tea Soil Life and Activator if you don't mind bro ?

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

You can really get away with not having to purchase the whole kit as the sprayer and some of the other things you might not even use. And for all of the stuff you can definitely do a easy DIY project and then just buy the powders and yucca like you did. Good thinking my man!! :Namaste:

Yeah I saw the different kits, and prices, but I wasnt shopping, was reading the site, but yeah you make a great point to get those, and not all the stuff you have already, or can get cheaper.
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I would like to say how much more enjoyed I am to learn from you two(vape and Doc) you two are very clear, very efficient, and precise. I like to see a clean organized, and most of all the mind set to say to yourselfs when making the purchase, get the good stuff, dont play and waste time. I dont like seeing all the various messy grows I seen on other threads, this one I can tell you guys been around the block a few times. I am very low budget, I mean low. It makes me want the best when I finally spend the chunk to do it, I am dialing myself in my mind first before I go all out, and you too been quite benificial to my mind, as well as knowing what My future lays for my choices for lights, style, and set up.
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Your leaves look amazing vapedeezy!!!! super heathy!!! and excellent photo journal of how to make your tea!!! I really like the DIY aerator!!! awesome man!!

:rofl:

I really like your tea brewing set up, gotta bite off that, good look'n out Vape. My question, what is Microbe Tea Soil Life and Activator if you don't mind bro ?

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

Thanks bros! I think the coolest thing about my brewer is that it only cost a few dollars to make! I spent more than I had to on a heavy-duty air pump...but that's just because I always tend to spend more on equipment than I have to...I don't have time to deal with equipment failures.

I also really like the one that mikey420 picked up...he was just showing it over on his journal, and it's pretty nice. It has a water pump and a fountain to keep the foam from overflowing. For anyone looking into picking up/building a brewer, it's worth checking out! I'm even thinking of picking one up...even though I don't need it...I'm a sucker for cool new toys!

The Microbe Tea Soil Life and Activator is a pre mixed powder that already contains all of the ingredients that need to be added to the water when brewing microbe tea. Here's what the manufacturer says about it:

The ingredients in Natures Own Growing System Microbe Tea Brewers consist of high performing aerobic and faculative soil bacteria which fix nitrogen from the air, solublize minerals, and reduce organic material into plant food. Trichoderma fungi are also present in our Tea Brewing Kits. Weekly applications of Natures Own Growing System Soil Life Tea (after brewing for 24 hours) to your plants and soils helps sustain the production of nutrients for your plants at high levels.

The document that came with it also says:

Contains Soil Life: Nitrogen Fixing Bacteria Sp, Bacillus Sp, Lacto-Bacillus Sp, and others + Trichoderma fungi.

Soil Life Activators Present: Kelp, Trace Minerals, Dried Molasses, Lime, Soft Rick Phosphate, Gypsum and Powdered Organic Materal.

:Namaste:
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Yeah I saw the different kits, and prices, but I wasnt shopping, was reading the site, but yeah you make a great point to get those, and not all the stuff you have already, or can get cheaper.

I wouldn't just exclude the kit out of hand...there's some good stuff in it, just make sure you are only buying what you need. I plan on using the same techniques on my vegetable garden, so I'll be needing the modified hose end sprayer, and I'd also like to try the BioVam products. If you were starting from scratch it might be a good option!

I would like to say how much more enjoyed I am to learn from you two(vape and Doc) you two are very clear, very efficient, and precise. I like to see a clean organized, and most of all the mind set to say to yourselfs when making the purchase, get the good stuff, dont play and waste time. I dont like seeing all the various messy grows I seen on other threads, this one I can tell you guys been around the block a few times. I am very low budget, I mean low. It makes me want the best when I finally spend the chunk to do it, I am dialing myself in my mind first before I go all out, and you too been quite benificial to my mind, as well as knowing what My future lays for my choices for lights, style, and set up.

Thanks bro! I can't speak for Doc, but I learned early on, and not just pertaining growing...that if I always bought the best piece of equipment I could afford, I wouldn't be disappointed...so far it's served me well.

But let's be honest! You can't always do everything you'd like to do...I spent an considerable amount of time growing in closets! Like my friend Propa Gator just said to me a little while ago, "What you have to do, you do!"

Every grow on this site, no matter how elaborate, or low budget, has info that every one of us could take away...if we looked for it. :thumb:

:Namaste:
 
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I like to see a clean organized, and most of all the mind set to say to yourselfs when making the purchase, get the good stuff, don't play and waste time.

:high-five:

I agree...that's why I like this tread so much because when it's important you aren't afraid to spend the time and money to do it right but when it's not then you are just as willing to not worry about it. Kind of "anything worth doing is worth doing well" meets "don't sweat the small stuff" mentality.

:thumb:

Matches my own way of thinking so it appeals to me... :peace:
 
Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Sorry for the time to respond, been reading, and getting more familiar with hi brix. And yeah almost made the mistake and bought the super phosphate, but been reading bout the high levels and affect on myco. Thanks for the info, I may have to go online, no garden centers worth anything around me. Oh and good, heads up on the mulch, and damn it if I didnt get the biggest bag of it too, couldnt pass it was 4 bucks, and works amazing for now, but I do understand the breaking down of it will start with those clay balls if thats what your talking bout. I also was reading up on some lava rock to do the same, it has some minerals too, but it can cause heat issues cuz it retains heat, so I am done poppin nanners over heat.

Oh I also came across a write up charcoal(not bbq kind) is a great souce of carbon, and micro life spose to love it, but havent found anyone carring it yet,may have to make my own. But holding off on any new things, as I am watching my ladies just dancing so happy since the top dress of the powders I do have.

Oh, for pakistan valley, shes smells of fruit juce, mixed with a grape smell if there is one, very smooth hits with the taste at exhale, and pretty much a seditive of a hi as you just melt in the couch, after some giggles. She is 100% indica, and got a batch going with hi brix, and let me tell you I can not wait til they are done, I already see beter growth, and fatter nugs at this pace, and they are already bigger than one 20 days ahead, man I can wait! lol thanks for the knowledge bro, been going down hill from the start!

Speakin of the mulch robbin the nite. would this cause a slight light green instead of the darker green, or vice versa? I have mulitpal clones and some look darker than some, both are looking healthy, but some look lighter green. Its hard to say as this has been a problem since I started cloning, some just look totally different than others?????
 
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