Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic - High Brix -Nirvana Ice- 49 Plant SOG

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Speakin of the mulch robbin the nite. would this cause a slight light green instead of the darker green, or vice versa? I have mulitpal clones and some look darker than some, both are looking healthy, but some look lighter green. Its hard to say as this has been a problem since I started cloning, some just look totally different than others?????

Generally darker green would equal more nitrogen...but it also takes a little while for the mulch to start decomposing. If they are new clones you are talking about, they will often show various deficiencies until the roots are established, and you get some new growth. Remember, when you clone, once you make your cut, all that little cutting has to survive on, are whatever nutrients it has stored until it's roots are established.

I aslo think it's important to root cuttings in a medium that has mycorrhizae already added to it, or you need to add an inoculant yourself. (Yes...it's in the kit!) It's important that the fungi colonizes the plant's roots as soon as possible.

 

[xEnl1ghtenedx]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Great plants so far Vape, Can't wait to see the outcome!

 

[JB42]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Easy VapeDogg man,
Just found this Journal, NIce sog man i'll be around to watch them flower, subbed.

 

[gdrocks]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hello Vapdogg, Good to meet you. Read through the whole journal and I am Subbed. You and Doc are leading the way. I am currently all organic using BPN 7 part and really like it. What do you think about Mineralizing 2 week into 12/12 and continuing with BPN feed schedule? Will that be to much? Again, really impressed.

 

[Doc Bud]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hello Vapdogg, Good to meet you. Read through the whole journal and I am Subbed. You and Doc are leading the way. I am currently all organic using BPN 7 part and really like it. What do you think about Mineralizing 2 week into 12/12 and continuing with BPN feed schedule? Will that be to much? Again, really impressed.

Why wait till 2 weeks into 12/12? Mineralize pronto! But just remember, you need microbes and fungi if you want to grow High Brix. I don't know anything about BPN and how compatible they are with soil life, but as long as you are super steady with microbial tea and you mineralize the soil I think it will work!

You'll be very happy. So far, everyone who has tried High Brix methodology is quite happy.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Great plants so far Vape, Can't wait to see the outcome!

bro...neither can I!

Easy VapeDogg man,
Just found this Journal, Nice sog man i'll be around to watch them flower, subbed.

I'm glad you're here now brother!

Hello Vapdogg, Good to meet you. Read through the whole journal and I am Subbed. You and Doc are leading the way. I am currently all organic using BPN 7 part and really like it. What do you think about Mineralizing 2 week into 12/12 and continuing with BPN feed schedule? Will that be to much? Again, really impressed.

Hey gdrocks! Thanks for stopping in! Just to be clear, Doc is definitely leading the way with high Brix...the rest of us are just trying to keep up! But for the wonderful compliment!

I think I read you question a little different...Are you just into you're 2nd week of flower with your current grow using BPN 7 part organic line? Their organic line: Blue Planet Nutrients looks great, and let me just say, that BPN is first class stuff, and Corey is a great guy, who's probably the most active sponsor in the forums.

Doc hit the nail on the head. unless you have the microbial activity the minerals aren't going to do anything, and might even cause problems with certain nutrient's availability. The microbes are the key to the whole thing...they break down the minerals so the plants can use them. So you'd also have to work some sort of microbe tea application into the mix to insure you have a thriving micro herd.

Now, if you mineralized the soil and had the microbial activity, I don't think you would be able to stay on the same feeding schedule...you'd most likely have to cut back, but as long as you watch them close and are ready to adjust I think you'd be fine.

 

[chronicgrower]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Big up's to 420 mag and Vapedogg223. I am Chronic Grower, introducing myself to the thread. I'm like'n what I see and I'm down for the ride. Top notch thread my friend and your greenery is kill'n it. I'm subbed to this channel and am very impressed with your skills. The brewer you show is a must have item. Using an aquarium pump and a smaller bucket. Not happy with the results. Didn't feel there's enough air. Now I know there isn't. Gotta build 1 myself. Gonna stay with you here til the end. You're on top of your game with the info and that's what I'm after. Always try'n to learn something new or refine some knowledge already aquired.

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

 

[chronicgrower]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

If you don't mind I'd like to add you to my friends list. It's how I keep track of the more knowledgeable growers I'm following. I'm picky it's a short list,lol.

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Hey everyone! Icemud started a really important thread over on the Off-Topic forums...If you value what's left of your freedoms and privacy please head over here:
You NEED to ACT if you care about your online privacy!!! Stop CISPA...

It's not too late for us to stop this one if we act decisively to get this info out there, and clog up the senate's telephone system and email servers! This DIRECTLY effects everyone reading this post! PLEASE act now!

 

[chronicgrower]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

People like yourself are so necessary in the battle at hand. Those of you who read and admire this mans work need to act on his words of wisdom !!

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

 

[Icemud]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thank you Vapedogg for posting the link in your journal! I very much appreciate it!! Thank you!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thank you Vapedogg for posting the link in your journal! I very much appreciate it!! Thank you!

I couldn't imagine not brother! I think if enough people hear about what's going on, it will be the point where enough is enough! I'm mad at myself for not starting a thread!

bro!
Now it's in my signature too...I just saw Propa added it to his, and I wondering why I hadn't done that yet! Propa!

 

[gdrocks]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thanks For the replies. Yes Vapedogg, you are correct. was at 2 weeks on sunday. Went out shopping but i am having the east coast problem of not being able to find the proper limestone. was even told that all limestime is dolomite from an employee at a garden store. This i know is not true, obviously. Any suggestions there would be appreciated. So I think I am going to finish my BPN grow. My ladies are prettier then ever before. You are absolutely correct about BPN and Corey. He is a Top Notch Dude. Talk Later.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Big up's to 420 mag and Vapedogg223. I am Chronic Grower, introducing myself to the thread. I'm like'n what I see and I'm down for the ride. Top notch thread my friend and your greenery is kill'n it. I'm subbed to this channel and am very impressed with your skills. The brewer you show is a must have item. Using an aquarium pump and a smaller bucket. Not happy with the results. Didn't feel there's enough air. Now I know there isn't. Gotta build 1 myself. Gonna stay with you here til the end. You're on top of your game with the info and that's what I'm after. Always try'n to learn something new or refine some knowledge already aquired.

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

If you don't mind I'd like to add you to my friends list. It's how I keep track of the more knowledgeable growers I'm following. I'm picky it's a short list,lol.

Keep it Growing Chronicly !!

Thanks brother!

A decent brewer is important! I really like the one Mikey420 just got too! I think it holds 3 gallons and can be had as a package for $45... I think I paid that for my air-pump. Either way, having enough oxygen is the difference between ending up with beautiful sweet microbe tea, and a bubbling cauldron of primordial pathogenic sludge...

I'm happy to have you on my friends list! be warned though...your list is going to get long quickly with all the knowledgable growers around here!

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thanks For the replies. Yes Vapedogg, you are correct. was at 2 weeks on sunday. Went out shopping but i am having the east coast problem of not being able to find the proper limestone. was even told that all limestime is dolomite from an employee at a garden store. This i know is not true, obviously. Any suggestions there would be appreciated. So I think I am going to finish my BPN grow. My ladies are prettier then ever before. You are absolutely correct about BPN and Corey. He is a Top Notch Dude. Talk Later.

Yeah...I went through the same thing myself trying to find it...I even had a local feed store try to get it for me...It really can't be had easily in this part of the country.

The guy you talked to was partially correct...sort of... (I'm trying to be more positive!) there are no high calcium limestone deposits in this part of the country...so it has to be shipped in from quarries further west, which nobody does... The one exception being a product often marketed as Pennington Fast Acting Lime, but I saw the same product under different brand names in Sears Hardware and Agway. The problem with it is it's pelletized with moisture absorbing polymers they call AST...here's what their web site says about it:

AST (Advanced Soil Technology) is a highly researched, patented control agent that acts like a magnet to hold calcium from lime in place.

huh? I'll pass, thank you very much...

Amazon has 50 lb pails you can buy for $35 plus shipping...which is going to be about that much again. They also sell food grade, that's double the price, but can be had in smaller packages. To find the one I use just plug in 'Ground Limestone Powder Micro-White 100 94% Calcium Carbonate 44 Micron'

 

[gittergreen]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Thanks For the replies. Yes Vapedogg, you are correct. was at 2 weeks on sunday. Went out shopping but i am having the east coast problem of not being able to find the proper limestone. was even told that all limestime is dolomite from an employee at a garden store. This i know is not true, obviously. Any suggestions there would be appreciated. So I think I am going to finish my BPN grow. My ladies are prettier then ever before. You are absolutely correct about BPN and Corey. He is a Top Notch Dude. Talk Later.

You can also find it sold as field marking lime. I bought mine at a farm and garden chain on the east coast. 4.99 for a 50lb bag.

 

[Doc Bud]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

You can also find it sold as field marking lime. I bought mine at a farm and garden chain on the east coast. 4.99 for a 50lb bag.

Yep! Just make sure it's more than 90% CaCO3 (Calcium Carbonate) stay away from hydrated lime or dolomite. I'm also using something like field marking lime. It's all the same thing, just depends how much you grind it up.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

I've been a little busy with the girls lately, so I'd like to get everybody caught up...

First a word about record keeping! When I wasn't running a journal, I'd just go in, and If I felt like the plants needed something I would just do it...I kept a very basic log of what happened (sometimes), but my record keeping could definitely stand some improvement. I figured starting a journal here would force me into better record keeping...which it has to a degree, but there's a ton of other info I want to keep track of with my grows, and I wanted to tell you about the software I've been trying called MacJournal. To date, it's the best software I've tried for this purpose, hand's down! I absolutely love it...so if you use a Mac, it's definitely worth checking out.

Okay, back to the girls... So it looks like they have used up most of the energy in my small pots...remember they are only 3 liters! If you recall, I had a 'feeling', and applied some fish/seaweed fertilizer two weeks ago...Well last week the fan leaves seemed to be a lighter green. I think it's a little bit early for this, but it's not unusual for this strain. It seems to be a heavy feeder, and before I switched to high Brix techniques, my ICE moms always looked like they were on the edge of a nitrogen deficiency.

So, here's what I've done...5 days ago on their scheduled watering, I first top dressed with about a teaspoon of 6/5/3 powders and a half teaspoon of Azomite. Then the minerals were watered in with a solution of 4 tbs seaweed fertilizer and 4 tbs of blackstrap molasses per 5 gallons of water. Then, two days ago I scratched up the top of the soil pretty well, being careful to not damage any roots, and mixed in another teaspoon of the 6/5/3 powders and 1/2 teaspoon of Azomite, along with 2 tablespoons of the Eggemoggin Blend hen manure. Then topped everything off with worm castings to bring the soil level back up to the top of the pot, since the soil had settled slightly. Air-Pots work best when they are completely full, so they make use of the reservoir at the top... I was reading that their new pots have as many as nine rows of cones without holes at the top, depending on pot size, however, the smaller pots I'm using were probably not modified, but I digress.

I have a batch of tea brewing right now that will be applied in a few hours with the usual dose of Yucca and probably some more fish/seaweed blend...I haven't decide on just how much, but I'll go light since I top dressed with the manure also...

Remember...there really isn't a recipe to this! Doc helped as much as he could, and provided a lot of invaluable info from his grow, but my situation is much different because of the smaller pots...so I fear I'm in uncharted waters now matey! I'll pretty much be going by feel from here on out, with about 7 weeks to go...so wish me luck!

I'll get some pis up for an update later tonight or perhaps tomorrow morning! I also need to do some renovations to the mom cave, so I'll get a shot to two of that up before I start moving everything around.

 

[Propa Gator]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Though I grow medicine with modified Hoagland solution from BPN two-part, I fear that to get propa food to eat I must grow it. Organic methods rule for the best food. This journal helps return the favor that food production methods once did for medicine growers. When I can live in a house with a yard or can use the roof of a rowhouse to grow food, I will study & use these techniques to eat. Soon, I hope.

World is sick when I can find garlic from nowhere but China. 7500 miles direct flight, much much farther by container ship. WTF?
Family farms in US are being stomped into a mudhole by government goons, at the behest of Agribusiness.
Tax dollars(debt) at work protecting corporate profits.

 

[Vapedogg223]

Re: Vapedogg223's Got a Brand New Bag! All Organic, High Brix, Nirvana Ice, 49 Plant

Though I grow medicine with modified Hoagland solution from BPN two-part, I fear that to get propa food to eat I must grow it. Organic methods rule for the best food. This journal helps return the favor that food production methods once did for medicine growers. When I can live in a house with a yard or can use the roof of a rowhouse to grow food, I will study & use these techniques to eat. Soon, I hope.

World is sick when I can find garlic from nowhere but China. 7500 miles direct flight, much much farther by container ship. WTF?
Family farms in US are being stomped into a mudhole by government goons, at the behest of Agribusiness.
Tax dollars(debt) at work protecting corporate profits.

I've been giving you a hard time with organics... The truth is BPN is great stuff, as you know, and will grow top notch meds!

My high Brix excursion is to see just what I can coax out of the genetics with these plants. I've been reading about organically grown meds having the best possible flavor and smell, with the cleanest high, allowing all the subtle nuances to come through.

Doc has touched on this many times in his journal...think bathtub gin vs. single malt scotch (I'm not calling BPN buds bathtub gin...just giving a rough analogy). During prohibition people wanted the strongest stuff they could get! I would guess kind of a 'most bang for your buck' mentality...it didn't matter what it tasted like, as long as it got you f@ckud up! Most growers have the same mentality right now.

I consider myself a hobby grower...the meds I grew with OC+ and a little love, were phenomenal! Much better than anything available in my area...so I figure I had some room to play around!

I'm sure I would get better results much more easily in larger pots...but I'm trying to maximize my light...everything's is some sort of tradeoff!

As for your food...I'm very glad to hear you say that about growing your own brother Propa! I think if everybody did, we would all be healthier! I walk through the grocery store and all of the produce comes form thousands of miles away. That's upsetting about the garlic...but even more upsetting that I'm not surprised.

Things are going to come full circle I fear, and at some point everyone will have a garden...but not without a fight! The government...both federal and locally, have been passing laws and putting administrative rules in place for years, to make back yard gardens impossible in many jurisdictions...and making you a felon if you sell or trade any produce with your neighbors...Luckly this isn't everywhere, and at this point and some municipalities have passed "right to farm" legislation to block the attempts of giant agro-corporations to keep us sucking off their teat of genetically modified 'quasi food'.

I'll stop now before I go on a rant...