Twenty20 Mendocino Bubba Whip, Photoperiod 2024

And the flies….most of these patterns are caddis patterns, and most of them are designed (or tied as a variant ) by a gentleman named Davy McPhail. If you’re in to fly fishing he is a must watch, a magician on the vice and he has a really cool Irish accent that’s easy to listen to.

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On drying my friend, you're a little higher on RH. Temps look spot on!, bring down the RH 60% /58% for at least 2 or 3 weeks drying this time of year.
If you dry too fast or the RH is too high, you will lose terps and potentcy.
Make sure the stem breaks before putting it in the jar!
Cheers, congrats on the harvest my friend.
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herrjack24 said:
Hello again! Just a quick question: how often do you water you plants usually?

P.S. Nice pics!
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Hey herrjack, it depends, I hate that answer, but it really does depend on numerous factors. The short answer though is when she’s dry. That will be at different times of the grow depending upon what phase she’s in, how big/old she is, and what size of pot you have her in. For example, once I have her in a 5 gallon pot, during peak veg I let her dry out completely. That usually takes 3 to 4 days, So I’m watering every fourth day. When she’s smaller, and in smaller pots, I’m watering a bit more often, but with less water. I read something once which I think is true. During veg it’s better to wilt than overwater, Meaning it’s OK to let her get dried out even if she looks a little droopy during veg. There are all sorts of articles about watering and how to do it on the site. You’d be surprised how many different opinions there are about how to water a pot plant. I’d spend an hour reading and then come back with detailed questions if you have them.
 
Sparkey224 said:
On drying my friend, you're a little higher on RH. Temps look spot on!, bring down the RH 60% /58% for at least 2 or 3 weeks drying this time of year.
If you dry too fast or the RH is too high, you will lose terps and potentcy.
Make sure the stem breaks before putting it in the jar!
Cheers, congrats on the harvest my friend.
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oh good call, so rh lower closer to 58-60. I can do that. I should show you my humidity rig (2 wetted beach towels draped over the chopped mainline carcass) trashy looking but easily controlled lol.
 
Every time I see a photo of colas hanging upside down in a tent to dry, it reminds me of this scene, no idea why, but it makes me lol (and I am the funniest person i know :) )

 
024backwards said:
And the flies….most of these patterns are caddis patterns, and most of them are designed (or tied as a variant ) by a gentleman named Davy McPhail. If you’re in to fly fishing he is a must watch, a magician on the vice and he has a really cool Irish accent that’s easy to listen to.

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What a unique hobby! Girls make friendship bracelets, boys make flys for fishin. 🥰
 
Hey Everyone......Its been 11 days drying at ~65%RH/62d. She's getting close now, couldn't break stems but I can feel her getting crispy, so maybe a few more days. I need those stems to be snappy before I trim and grove bag her.

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I suppose I have a good problem to solve for. I’m going fishing the last Week of October, but I’m ready to start my next Journal (sol fire terpgasm). if I start her now, she will be in early veg when I leave for eight days in late October. That feels like a critical time to leave her alone for that long so I think I’m gonna have to wait to start my next grow when I get back the first week of November. Really sucks I hate to take a whole month off. I was going to try and quad Line her through a SCROG
 
Are you going to keep what you trim off? Looks pretty sparkly!
 
Lessons Learned...........I jot down lessons/observations after each grow. It's a pain, I never want too do it, but it's how I learn best, one painful, documented mistake at a time. So, in honor of these past mistakes and the late Miss BubbaWhip!, here are some random musings from the grow:
  1. This pheno, wow, if I had a way to clone I'd cut one from her, the way she faded with that vivid magenta was spectacular and her smell was of a hash den and strip club bathroom at closing time (uhhh, wrong thread?). Hoping her smoke will live up to her looks.
  2. The mainline process added 2-3 weeks to the veg cycle. Is it worth the wait? Maybe not, it does create an even even canopy but I think we can get there in other ways and not lose so much time.
  3. I love my new and bigger Vivosun tent (3x3x6) and Vivosun VS1500 LED light. Both were used to there fullest potential during this grow. If you are thinking about upgrading, just do it and thank me later.
  4. Quit using ceramic pots for seedlings. I thought it looked "cool" in photos but it makes it harder to transplant them to larger pots.
  5. In my opening remarks of this journal I talked about removing Foxfarm PK boosters from the feed rotation (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, Cha-Ching). These powders purport to increase flower size/yield by injecting (very) high amounts of PK during early-mid flower. For example, the EC/PPM of Ethos Crescendo feeds during weeks 4 and 5 of flower ran around 3.2-3.4/2240-2380. In comparison, Babs was getting feeds of 1.4-1.6/980-1120 ppm at the same phase of flower. Obviously a 50% decrease in concentration but in my opinion this had numerous benefits:
    • Even though Crescendo looked good, she must have been near spontaneous combustion at these PPM's and likely having issues absorbing nutes. I mentioned before that I did not think her weed was good. At first I chalked that up to Ethos but in hindsight, I wonder if a combination of high ppms, harvesting (way) too soon, and not drying her long enough resulted in an inferior smoke. She deserves another run.........
    • The final PK booster, Cha-Ching, contains large amounts of N (NPK 9-50-10). This is more N than she gets from her primary nutrient during veg (FoxFarm Growbig, 6-4-6) and is the root cause of the bright green plants I get at harvest. By removing this from the schedule, she was suddenly N deficient for the last month of the grow and as a result, faded big-time. I thought the fade was as much about temps as anything else, another lesson learned!
    • I wonder if there is a happy medium for these boosters, maybe try a 25% dose and skip Cha-Ching (stay with Beastie Bloomz, similar PK but 0 N)?
  6. In general, I've been harvesting too soon and not drying long enough. You all making me wait on Bubba was an eye opener (thank you again!).
  7. I think silica is bro/gal-science! I did not use it last grow and after going back to it, I notice a marked improvement in stem color, strength, flexibility, and resilience.
Thanks everyone, I'll probably be trimming late this week, then a smoke report and we can put a pin in this one.
 
Great lessons and well done sitting down to get them in writing!

From my experience, your plants don't need any boost to the phosphorus numbers, and are more likely to suffer toxicities when using them rather than bigger flowers. I would consider 6-4-6 is a good number for veg, with a slight boost in K in flower if they were mine (to around 6-4-8).

Also, plants use nitrogen all the way to harvest, as you can see from the charts in this post:
https://www.420magazine.com/communi...side-out-jump-in-any-time.417558/post-5398531
 
InTheShed said:
Are you going to keep what you trim off? Looks pretty sparkly!
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Hey Shed, yeah i think so but not sure what to do with them, any ideas?
 
InTheShed said:
Great lessons and well done sitting down to get them in writing!

From my experience, your plants don't need any boost to the phosphorus numbers, and are more likely to suffer toxicities when using them rather than bigger flowers. I would consider 6-4-6 is a good number for veg, with a slight boost in K in flower if they were mine (to around 6-4-8).

Also, plants use nitrogen all the way to harvest, as you can see from the charts in this post:
https://www.420magazine.com/communi...side-out-jump-in-any-time.417558/post-5398531
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Thanks my friend, I appreciate this and all your help during the grow, I'll hit this link tonight, super interested to learn more about this.
 
InTheShed said:
Great lessons and well done sitting down to get them in writing!

From my experience, your plants don't need any boost to the phosphorus numbers, and are more likely to suffer toxicities when using them rather than bigger flowers. I would consider 6-4-6 is a good number for veg, with a slight boost in K in flower if they were mine (to around 6-4-8).

Also, plants use nitrogen all the way to harvest, as you can see from the charts in this post:
https://www.420magazine.com/communi...side-out-jump-in-any-time.417558/post-5398531
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This is a squirrel moment lol...I started reading about nitrogen usage and got side tracked reading your post about not having to PH nutrient water! I remember reading that thread (not ph'ing nute water) 2-3 years ago and thinking that I was not prepared to listen/understand what was being said. Still not sure that I am but here goes anyway. The basic tenants are

1. The pH of nutrient water is irrelevant to the pH of any soil or growing media. It is the alkalinity of nutrient water and the potential acidity/basicity of the fertilizer(s) that influence the pH of the growing medium and root zone
2. The use of Nitrite (NO3) based fertilizers like Foxfarm uses will cause an increase in soil based mediums over time.

In my situation, I am using DI water which has no resistance at all to changes in PH, up or down, meaning the alkalinity is very low (and should have little effect on soil PH). Foxfarm N comes from Ammonium/Magnesium Nitrate (*.NO3) which sounds like it drives up soil PH over longer periods/grows. Do I have that right? I would love to try this, I've lost 6 months of my life to PH adjustments, but not sure I have the courage! I need to keep reading to see how you are measuring soil PH if not via a slurry. BTW, I'll come back to N usage, I have questions!
 
024backwards said:
The basic tenants are

1. The pH of nutrient water is irrelevant to the pH of any soil or growing media. It is the alkalinity of nutrient water and the potential acidity/basicity of the fertilizer(s) that influence the pH of the growing medium and root zone
2. The use of Nitrite (NO3) based fertilizers like Foxfarm uses will cause an increase in soil based mediums over time.

In my situation, I am using DI water which has no resistance at all to changes in PH, up or down, meaning the alkalinity is very low (and should have little effect on soil PH). Foxfarm N comes from Ammonium/Magnesium Nitrate (*.NO3) which sounds like it drives up soil PH over longer periods/grows. Do I have that right? I would love to try this, I've lost 6 months of my life to PH adjustments, but not sure I have the courage! I need to keep reading to see how you are measuring soil PH if not via a slurry. BTW, I'll come back to N usage, I have questions!
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As Ed McMahon would say: "You are correct sir!" though it's not any growing media, just a buffered one like soil or peat-based mixes like ProMix or Sunshine Mix. Coco is hydro so the water will need to be pH adjusted for hydro.

I know it goes against years of people repeating what others have said and misreading the pH chart for hydro and soil, but you have to figure that if the soil can change the pH of the water within 60 minutes or less of you pouring it in (as proven in the slurry test), the pH of the nutes are not what the roots see beyond that first hour.

And a slurry test is the fastest and easiest way to test the pH of the media, and I do it on every bag of soil I buy. That process is described here.
 
Trala said:
I was thinking the same thing.

Good brownie fodder. 🧁
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you know, I've never had a brownie (or any edible), I may do just that. what do you do, chop up the sugar leaves and mix them in?
 
Hey 4-2-0,

14 days on the dry now and she's still too wet to harvest (stems are bendy, no snap). Its been raining every day this week, humidity is just too high (64% right now), That 5 zip harvest looks closer to 3-4 now. Hopefully a few more days and I can tag and bag her.
 
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