Tok's First Mushroom Diary - Medical First/Recreation

Okay, we went over making spores syringes, so it's time to move on to Agar.

How to Make Agar Plates
Agar-agar is the name of a particular type of marine red algae. It’s a standard source of plant-based gelatin for all sorts of applications. One popular use—and usually what people mean when they say “agar,” is for making growth medium for petri dishes.

A petri dish is a low, flat-bottomed plate with a lid. They are used as a place to grow small amounts of microscopic or near-microscopic organisms for study or for other purposes. Because the dish is so wide relative to its depth, it’s easy to see colonies of these organisms expand and change—unlike with, say, a jar of growth medium, where you can’t really tell what is going on in there unless something spreads up against the glass.

The seaweed extract is mixed with some kind of nutrient source and sometimes other substances, then poured into the dishes. Once the agar mix sets, you have a thin layer of hard gelatin that won’t spill or splash as you move the dishes around.

Agar plates are used in mushroom cultivation to clone mushrooms (that is, to grow a new mycelium from a piece of fruiting body) or to germinate spores. Yes, it’s possible to germinate spores in a jar, too, but on a petri dish you can see right away if germination has occurred, you can study the young mycelium, encourage it to mate with other mycelia, and identify and isolate the strains you want. Once you have the strain you want established and isolated, you can use it to inoculate grain spawn or some other medium.

Using agar is considered a bit of an advanced technique because if you make a mistake, contamination is basically certain. Also, hobbyists just getting into mushroom cultivation generally don’t want to do any of the things that require agar work. But eventually, for those who want to develop real expertise, learning to use agar is a necessary step.


What Type of Agar is Best for Mushrooms?

Agar itself, the gelatin, is pretty straightforward; there is only one kind. But to use as a growth medium, the gelatin must be mixed with some kind of nutrient, and the word, “agar” is also used to refer to the different mixes.

These mixes have names such as blood agar or chocolate agar. Blood agar really includes blood as its nutrient source, but chocolate agar does not contain chocolate. It’s made with blood, too, but blood that has been partly broken down and therefore looks brown. Some mixes are good for growing almost anything, some are good for growing difficult-to-cultivate microorganisms, and some allow only certain types of bacteria to grow—one way to identify a bacterial strain (or at least narrow down the possibilities) is to see what kinds of agar plate it does grow on verses the kinds it will not grow on.

For growing fungi, the thing to use is nutritional agar. This can be made with various nutrient sources, including meat broth, yeast extract, and malt, but it’s a generalized growth medium that works for just about anything. Each recipe has its own commonly-used abbreviation (for example, PDA, for potato dextrose agar, or DFA for dog food agar), but these are really all just different recipes for the same thing, which is nutritional agar. The same recipes work no matter which kind of mushroom you’re cultivating. There is no “best agar for P. cubensis,” for example. You choose something that works that’s easy for you to make.

How to Make Agar Plates for Mushrooms

You can buy pre-made agar plates—that is, agar and nutrient already mixed and poured into petri dishes and sealed, ready for use.

However, mixing and buying your own is often substantially cheaper, plus pre-made plates usually dry out a little during shipping. They’ll work, but fresh is better.

There are multiple recipes out there, but all of them are pretty simple. Here[ii] is one of many recipes:

Recipe:

20g of plain agar powder
20g of barley malt extract
2g nutritional yeast
1000ml Hot tap water

Needed Equipment:

A pressure-cooker
A suitable bottle for sterilizing in and for pouring (there should be some kind of vent in the lid to allow pressure equalization during sterilization)
A mixing bowl – Any will do.
50 petri dishes
A role of parafilm tape.
A sterile work-space (a laminar flow-hood, still-air box, or similar)


Step-by-Step Instructions

Mix the dry ingredients together

Add the water (make sure the water is hot; cold water will result in instant gloppy gel that’s hard to work with)

Transfer the mixture to a bottle that can be safety sterilized in the pressure-cooker and is easy to pour from

Sterilize the mix (45 minutes at 15 psi in the pressure-cooker) and then allow it to cool enough to handle (but not get cold). This will take about an hour

Pour the mix into the plates (under sterile conditions!) and allow to cool and set

Seal for later use—use the parafilm tape.

Note that proper sterile procedures must be used while pouring the agar mix, and must be maintained until the plates are sealed. Spores and bacteria of all kinds love to grow on agar, so contamination risk is very high.

The completed plates will keep in the refrigerator until you can use them.

References:
Quinlan, S. (2018). Types of Agar Plates.
[ii] Shields, T. (n.d.). How to Make Agar Plates for Growing Mushrooms at Home


If you have any question or want to know how to do something feel free to ask.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
 
When I get to the stage of making Spore Syringes and Agar I will provide images for clarity.

Any how :yahoo::theband: I now have one AIO bag with Nameless spores entering Mycelial Growth Phase. No sign from of the Amazonian AIO bag, but I expect to see development by Friday next week.

Back to waiting again, will provide images as development progresses.

For now here are some current images.



Back to the waiting game.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
 
It has been 12 days since inoculation and the Amazonian spores do not appear to of taken.
I will wait a few more days and then decided if I will re-inoculate it.

The Nameless spores started the mycelial growth phase a couple days ago, but things are moving very slow.
It would be nice if I could speed up the process a little.

Oh well, patience is a virtue.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
 
It has been 12 days since inoculation and the Amazonian spores do not appear to of taken.
I will wait a few more days and then decided if I will re-inoculate it.

The Nameless spores started the mycelial growth phase a couple days ago, but things are moving very slow.
It would be nice if I could speed up the process a little.

Oh well, patience is a virtue.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
**crack** that whip and yell "Mush mushies!" 😆
 
It has been 12 days since inoculation and the Amazonian spores do not appear to of taken.
I will wait a few more days and then decided if I will re-inoculate it.

The Nameless spores started the mycelial growth phase a couple days ago, but things are moving very slow.
It would be nice if I could speed up the process a little.

Oh well, patience is a virtue.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
Whats the temp of the enviroment around the bag?
 
All is good today other than a few minor curse words. I'm playing Maytag install man. Installing a new stackable washer/ dryer. Almost done and it will be time for a big lung burner and a cocktail.

Hope everyones Sunday is mucho fantastico.
 
I apologize for not getting back to you yesterday @Ramblinrose1965 I started watching football.

I checked the temperature yesterday and you were right on the money. When I checked yesterday it was just 73 degrees, so I placed a small heater in the bathroom, that I am growing mushrooms in. This morning I checked and the temp. has raised to 78 degrees. I will be trying to keep it about 80 or so degrees.

The humidity is fine and in the 90's, just did not catch the low temps.
Thank you, for bring it to my attention.

TR
 
I apologize for not getting back to you yesterday @Ramblinrose1965 I started watching football.

I checked the temperature yesterday and you were right on the money. When I checked yesterday it was just 73 degrees, so I placed a small heater in the bathroom, that I am growing mushrooms in. This morning I checked and the temp. has raised to 78 degrees. I will be trying to keep it about 80 or so degrees.

The humidity is fine and in the 90's, just did not catch the low temps.
Thank you, for bring it to my attention.

TR
No worries, 73 degrees is good. Anywhere from 70 to 80 is good. 75° is optimal. Around 80° you stand a better chance of contamination happening.
 
I love shrooms thanks to the weather this morning I was able to pick a few... 👍👍 Thinking of trying to grow a few so I been taking notes 😀👍
Thats fantastic.....used to pick them when I lived in Puerto Rico back in 91-92. Miss those dayz. Carefree and a beach bum.

Anyway....sounds like you need to take some spore prints and get rockin and rollin.
 
Well I guess it's time for an update.

The Mycelial growth in the AIO bag inoculate with the Nameless spore does not seem to of gotten any bigger. It is still about a 1 inch spot, and that's it. I tried raising the temperature up to 78 degrees for a couple days, but that had no effect. The only thing I can do is just let it go and see what happens.

The second AIO bag that was inoculated with Amazonian spores does not appear to of taken. I decided to re-inoculate the bag again with the 5cc of the Amazonian spores I had on hand. 🤞

I am getting ready to order a couple more AIO bags that I need for other spores.
Growing mushroom can defiantly test your patience.

Be safe and grow well my friends,
Tok..
 
Let me start by saying I am in no way an experienced mycologist.
One thing I see all the newbies doing is trying to grow too many varieties all at once. I think everyone should try growing just one type and choose one that is easily grown and stands up well to contamination.

I have no idea what my college roomate and I grew back in the 80's but for my recent grows I chose golden teachers for the 2 reasons I just described. Just my 2 cents and YMMV.
 
B+ and GT are probably the most domesticated and easiest to grow and contamination resistant. Don't get me wrong, they all can TAM out on you, but those two come to mind right away for new growers (or anyone really). I mainly grow exotics, and they are finnicky NO doubt, you will experience loss with tougher strains, it's apart of it. There are legit companies selling LC's.... these... days.... which is a clean culture from the start. Spore syringes can be hit or miss (buy from reputable source), and Agar is a different beast (learning curve), but great when you are self-sufficient with spores/swabs and such and want to experience firsthand the work that's involved and do your own isolation and what not. Once you have a clean culture, the options are endless. All the best your projects.
 
Let me start by saying I am in no way an experienced mycologist.
One thing I see all the newbies doing is trying to grow too many varieties all at once. I think everyone should try growing just one type and choose one that is easily grown and stands up well to contamination.

I have no idea what my college roomate and I grew back in the 80's but for my recent grows I chose golden teachers for the 2 reasons I just described. Just my 2 cents and YMMV.

B+ and GT are probably the most domesticated and easiest to grow and contamination resistant. Don't get me wrong, they all can TAM out on you, but those two come to mind right away for new growers (or anyone really). I mainly grow exotics, and they are finnicky NO doubt, you will experience loss with tougher strains, it's apart of it. There are legit companies selling LC's.... these... days.... which is a clean culture from the start. Spore syringes can be hit or miss (buy from reputable source), and Agar is a different beast (learning curve), but great when you are self-sufficient with spores/swabs and such and want to experience firsthand the work that's involved and do your own isolation and what not. Once you have a clean culture, the options are endless. All the best your projects.
Well said my friend.
 
Thats fantastic.....used to pick them when I lived in Puerto Rico back in 91-92. Miss those dayz. Carefree and a beach bum.

Anyway....sounds like you need to take some spore prints and get rockin and rollin.
I was a total beach bum for one summer. Collected Unemployment benefits, got high n went to the beach or fished. One of the best summers of my life. I also entertained the lady tourists. lol CL🍀.
 
I was a total beach bum for one summer. Collected Unemployment benefits, got high n went to the beach or fished. One of the best summers of my life. I also entertained the lady tourists. lol CL🍀.
Right on Captain Lucky.
The way life should be. Surfed all day and bartended 3 nights a week. Pickin shrooms and buying jamaican dirt weed in wooden matchboxes. God I miss those days.
 
Right on Captain Lucky.
The way life should be. Surfed all day and bartended 3 nights a week. Pickin shrooms and buying jamaican dirt weed in wooden matchboxes. God I miss those days.
I’m miss Florida terribly, my Studio Apt. was right across the street from the beach. I could walk out my front door and see it,hear the seagulls. Madeira beach Fl. was/is a small beach town that was heaven on earth 🌍. CL🍀
 
I’m miss Florida terribly, my Studio Apt. was right across the street from the beach. I could walk out my front door and see it,hear the seagulls. Madeira beach Fl. was/is a small beach town that was heaven on earth 🌍. CL🍀
What year was that?
 
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