The Sauga Ends Here

[Scottylikesbud]

I seem to recall recently undergoing an extensive search on the internet for this strain. And found that it was clone only. And finding this website but was skeptical, but now that it’s a sponsor I’ve got to try it. I can’t pass up on a chance at growing that strain out. I will always feel like thats the one that’s got away. Man I hope you get a Heavy dripper, that blows everyone away @MrSauga

 

[Weed Seeds Express]

Hey everybody,
I should have some updates done for tomorrow. I did harvest my Zkittlez which was basically one big bud but nothing that was worth writing home to Mom about. She wouldn't understand anyhow.

I did receive some seeds from @Weedseedsexpress today and I'm thrilled to be able to run these in the very near future. They are a new sponsor here so if you get a chance stop by their website and send them some love.
I'll be running their Lithium OG Kush and Pinkman Goo, both indicas. I believe some others have their gear so keep your eyes open for a comp grow in the near future.

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• MrSauga
• May 15, 2020

Have a great weekend everyone!

What a great picture! Love it! We are really happy with that you grow our genetics Mrsauga and we'll follow your grow from beginning till end!

Have a great weekend!

Cheers, David

 

[MrSauga]

And as for my experience with Mc. I never use their suggested flower strength.Way to much something I’m thinking nitrogen. Plants start reacting all funny. I’m having great results so far with veg strength. My smaller plant burns over 1200 ec. While the taller one does all right.

The N in the MC is high but it does not affect anything during flower. What happens for the most part with MC users is they keep adding more during veg because the plant looks so healthy. By adding more MC, moreso in soil, you build up excess in the media unless you water to runoff or do a rinse/reset every fourth watering.
The N is a vital part in making the MC system work. You are looking for changes in the color green. Once you have that dialed in then you only add MC as needed which is when the lowers start to fade to yellow.

So yes you have to be careful in flower as extra N causes issues with Mg lockout, but if you follow the advice up top and never exceed the GLN calculator amount your plants should flourish nicely.

What a great picture! Love it! We are really happy with that you grow our genetics Mrsauga and we'll follow your grow from beginning till end!

Have a great weekend!

Cheers, David

Thanks again David and have a great weekend. I'll hopefully be dropping these before the month is over and I'll tag you once we get going. I'll also start another picture thread in a different category that shows off your strains that any member can post to.
Take care.

 

[Weed Seeds Express]

Thanks again David and have a great weekend. I'll hopefully be dropping these before the month is over and I'll tag you once we get going. I'll also start another picture thread in a different category that shows off your strains that any member can post to.
Take care.

Thank you so much! Sure! Take your time and we'll speak soon again!

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

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• MrSauga
• May 15, 2020

Have a great weekend everyone!

Nice choices Mr S! But you’re supposed to take them out of the package before you plant them silly! Can’t wait wait to watch and see!

 

[MrSauga]

But you’re supposed to take them out of the package before you plant them silly!

Um, hellooooo! That's how they grow. In three weeks you'll see they have outgrown the wrapper and will be seedlings.

 

[BigD13]

The N in the MC is high but it does not affect anything during flower. What happens for the most part with MC users is they keep adding more during veg because the plant looks so healthy. By adding more MC, moreso in soil, you build up excess in the media unless you water to runoff or do a rinse/reset every fourth watering.
The N is a vital part in making the MC system work. You are looking for changes in the color green. Once you have that dialed in then you only add MC as needed which is when the lowers start to fade to yellow.

So yes you have to be careful in flower as extra N causes issues with Mg lockout, but if you follow the advice up top and never exceed the GLN calculator amount your plants should flourish nicely.

Thanks for the great analysis/explanation! I’m growing in soil, so this is of interest to me. Just to make things clearer to me, what percent run off should I have? If I am having a consistent run off, do I need a rinse and reset, even if my plants are looking good? Or is it more like, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it?”

 

[FelipeBlu]

By soil, what do you mean? Garden soil, bagged potting soil, buffered peat, LOS..?

 

[MrSauga]

Thanks for the great analysis/explanation! I’m growing in soil, so this is of interest to me. Just to make things clearer to me, what percent run off should I have? If I am having a consistent run off, do I need a rinse and reset, even if my plants are looking good? Or is it more like, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it?”

You want to shoot for a 10-20% runoff. However, as you said, if it ain't broke don't fix it. So if you have not seen a need to do a reset, regardless of runoff or not, then there's no need to change a thing. If you are always at the low end of feeding and the plant looks healthy then chances are you will never have to water to runoff or rinse/reset.

By soil, what do you mean? Garden soil, bagged potting soil, buffered peat, LOS..?

I refer to any buffered media, such as FFOF, Promix HP, Miracle Grow Organic Potting Soil etc. I'm not sure about LOS as MC is not really organic but they refer to it as vegan.

 

[FelipeBlu]

You want to shoot for a 10-20% runoff. However, as you said, if it ain't broke don't fix it. So if you have not seen a need to do a reset, regardless of runoff or not, then there's no need to change a thing. If you are always at the low end of feeding and the plant looks healthy then chances are you will never have to water to runoff or rinse/reset.

I refer to any buffered media, such as FFOF, Promix HP, Miracle Grow Organic Potting Soil etc. I'm not sure about LOS as MC is not really organic but they refer to it as vegan.

Most growers would advise against using soil from the yard or Miracle Grow potting soil.

If it’s FFOF, I wouldn’t add fertilizer until the plants are at least 3-4 weeks. Then start lighter and treat like a buffered peat product.

If he’s using a buffered peat product like ProMix, a 10-20% runoff is appropriate.

Most LOS purists would not use a fertilizer, even MC.

 

[MrSauga]

Most growers would advise against using soil from the yard or Miracle Grow potting soil.

I agree about the garden soil but politely disagree about the MG. Almost all of my grows, including the four plants vegging right now are in it. Very similar to FFOF except it has more water storing properties so you need to cut it with 25% perlite.

If it’s FFOF, I wouldn’t add fertilizer until the plants are at least 3-4 weeks. Then start lighter and treat like a buffered peat product.

I have to politely disagree again. I start feeding at 2g/gal after the second set of leaves. With autos I start as soon as the second set of leaves are in. That's with FFOF and also MGOS. Maybe it's different with others but I have great success starting seeds off in both medias at those feed rates.

Most LOS purists would not use a fertilizer, even MC.

I politely agree!!!

 

[FelipeBlu]

My apologies for assuming. I didn’t remember that you used MG. Cutting it with perlite would be essential.

Re fertilizing FFOF, I have read about so many new growers burning their young plants that I am probably overly cautious in recommending this, but it can certainly be done by someone with experience.

Good morning MrS!

 

[MrSauga]

My apologies for assuming. I didn’t remember that you used MG. Cutting it with perlite would be essential.

To be clear I would not recommend any other MG product as they have time released ferts(prills). The MGOS I use does not.

Re fertilizing FFOF, I have read about so many new growers burning their young plants that I am probably overly cautious in recommending this, but it can certainly be done by someone with experience.

I was a firm believer in not recommending FFOF for seedlings earlier on but I have to say for the number of times I have used both medias I have not lost one seed to the hot soil theory so I don't push it anymore.

Good morning MrS!

It's a great morning Felipe... thanks for this great conversation this morning.


Enjoy the day!

 

[FelipeBlu]

Indeed!

 

[RedZedHead]

lol, sorry, I don't have a mobile or cell or one of those things that people stare at when walking down the street or driving their cars.

Amen, brother. The second biggest pandemic we have
Count me in for this perpetual madness.

 

[BigD13]

By soil, what do you mean? Garden soil, bagged potting soil, buffered peat, LOS..?

My soil right now consists of equal parts of: Ace Hardware potting soil, peat moss, earthworm castings and perlite. I sift the potting soil through a coarse screen to remove the larger pieces of woody debris. I also sift the peat moss to give it a more uniform texture.

I plan on up-potting in a couple of weeks from a 1-1/2 gallon pot to a 7 gallon fabric pot. I plan on using the same soil mix, but will be adding 1 part FF Happy Frog. I plan on mixing the peat moss and perlite in last, as I may reduce both of those depending on how the soil mix looks and feels. I’ll also throw in 1 tablespoon of domilite lime to the whole mix.

I grow outside in east central Florida using well water than is down about 120 ft. My well water pH is 7.4. Total alkalinity is 120-140 ppm.

 

[MrSauga]

Amen, brother. The second biggest pandemic we have
Count me in for this perpetual madness.

Welcome Redz!
I was doing fine without the mobile until COVID showed up. Then I was forced to buy one because everything went to curbside pickup. You had to call when you arrived! I feel so dirty now.

 

[FelipeBlu]

I hear it’s addictive too! But cannabis is great for weaning off of many addictions.

 

[Scottylikesbud]

See Mr S you are good to go on the phone, as long as you your have pot. But if you catch yourself screening it up with out the pot.

... a few weeks later...

sorry buddy but I think it’s time you face the reality. You might have a smart phone addiction and it is ruining your social relationships and responsibilities XD time to kick the habit

 

[BigD13]

You want to shoot for a 10-20% runoff. However, as you said, if it ain't broke don't fix it. So if you have not seen a need to do a reset, regardless of runoff or not, then there's no need to change a thing. If you are always at the low end of feeding and the plant looks healthy then chances are you will never have to water to runoff or rinse/reset.

I do water to runoff, just not sure what %. I was on the low end of feeding, but was getting some yellowing on a few lower leaves. Now that I’m in bloom, I increased the MC over a few waterings, so I am now at 6g/gal. I’ll see how that does over the next week or so. My plants look pretty good right now.