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RheinRover, I didn't answer part of your post. I eat the ABV right after vamping. Like popcorn. 
The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return
STIHL LOGGER
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Sue you hippie herbivore you. that made me giggle. 
Im sure any piece of writing you do will be read by the masses. Bring it all on! Drop that knowledge, never hold back. Spread it out there for us Queen Sue! 
Im sure any piece of writing you do will be read by the masses. Bring it all on! Drop that knowledge, never hold back. Spread it out there for us Queen Sue! 
Squeektoi
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Thank you for making this journal Sweetsue !
I have learned a lot so far and love seeing the progress of the fantasmo & auto Jack as well
I'm training my Jack in a very similar way so I must be doing something right lol
Lovely cannabis darlings for sure
I have learned a lot so far and love seeing the progress of the fantasmo & auto Jack as well
I'm training my Jack in a very similar way so I must be doing something right lol
Lovely cannabis darlings for sure
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Sue you hippie herbivore you. that made me giggle.
You're just too adorable STIHL.
Thank you for making this journal Sweetsue !
I have learned a lot so far and love seeing the progress of the fantasmo & auto Jack as well
I'm training my Jack in a very similar way so I must be doing something right lol
Lovely cannabis darlings for sure
I like the space bucket squeektoi. They fascinate me, but I know I'd be dissatisfied with the space restriction. I think it's important to show these alternative spaces in action though. Someone out there looked at your journal and thought "Hey! I can do that!" and suddenly one more closet cannabis cultivator is born.
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This is nothing more than a rewrite of Cajun's second post on his protocol thread. Here's the link to that if you'd care to check it out.
A Base Treatment Regimen for Cancer
The piece on Demethylation that precedes this is in my blog.
Thoughts on Demethylation and the Methylation Cycle
The next piece, on supercharging the CCO, should really be Part A, and I'll probably make that change before I compile it all into a unit.
It makes me nervous to put it out there like this. Writer's angst. The work is more important than my angst. I also like the idea that we all get to input our thoughts. It makes it more of a community project, and that appeals to me. What I'm looking for from you all is any areas that aren't clear to you or where you believe more info is needed to flesh it out.
BIOAVAIBILITY: Part A
This piece was written for cancer patients healing themselves with Concentrated Cannabis Oil. Those of us who smoke or vape or ingest recreationally don't tend to think of it as medicating ourselves, but the reality is you're doing just that. Your Endocannabinoid System takes those additional cannabinoids and heals your system too, you just weren't aware of it. These methods will increase the level of your buzz and get more working cannabinoids into your healing body.
Remember, it's a numbers game. You worked hard to produce oil loaded with numbers of cannabinoids, terpenes and other beneficial molecules. Now your challenge becomes getting the greatest number of those fighters into the system without being degraded, metabolized or eliminated. We want them active in the business of destroying cancer cells and assisting the immune system, and we want them there as long as possible before they get washed out.
Let's look at the practical steps you can take to help your body get the greatest benefit from your priceless medication. How can we increase bioavailability?
We've already covered demethylation, so you're already doing things like drinking lots of green tea, eating dark, dark chocolate, cinnamon, mangoes, etc. right? Good. It enhances your bioavailability. Cajun also recently shared that "other supplements like garlic, tumeric, vitamin D3, selenium, and especially fish-based Omega 3's, melatonin, ect. all contribute to the cco by synergy at least 50 fold."
Now it's time to dose.
Begin by eating about 30-40 minutes before you dose. Your main focus here is to get the liver occupied so that when you dose it's busy with the previous "meal" and more cannabinoids will slip by unmolested. Since the liver is the organ responsible for processing oils, a good option is a tablespoon full of coconut oil, which is easily absorbed by the small intestines and transported to the liver. You give the liver busy work and get the fabulous nutritional benefits of coconut oil all at once. Win/win.
**A cautionary note** Coconut oil is contraindicated as a prep for treating liver cancer. You want the coconut oil you introduce to have cannabinoids with it and you want them to get straight to the liver, so the coconut oil you use is the carrier oil for the CCO. With liver cancer the use of supplements is necessary to creatively inhibit the liver.
The enzymes in the liver that metabolize most of the THC are aggressive by nature, and it behooves you to get them busy before dosing and keep them busy as you dose. As it turns out, there are some plant molecules, apigenin and amentoflavone, that attract those very same enzymes, known as CYP2C9. So you're increasing your odds by flooding the field with distractions.
Aside from being "busy work" for the enzymes, apigenin and amentoflavone offer some interesting benefits. I found twenty different anti-cancer effects of apigenin alone, among them the ability to inhibit angiogenesis (growing new blood vessels so the cell can continue to live) and to promote cell apoptosis (suicide) and that wasn't an all-inclusive list. Cajun shared that his oncologist recommended he take 1.5 grams of apigenin daily. He admits to taking about 500 mg a day because he just got sick of the number of pills. I can certainly understand that.
You can get apigenin from food sources, (Ginko Biloba, for one) but at the recommended levels I think a source for tablets might be necessary. It's easy to find. You're treating cancer. Big guns are called for.
Amentoflavone has been used for centuries in Chinese medicine as an anti-cancer medication. I browsed through an interesting Chinese study of the anti-cancer mechanisms of amentoflavone in the destruction of typical breast cancer MCF-7 cells. To be blunt, the amentoflavone degraded the integrity of the mitochondrial wall until it shredded and the tumor cell died. Interestingly enough, this was one of the mechanisms used by cannabinoids to cause cell death. Fascinating. Amentoflavone has been used in traditional medicine as an antioxidant, vasorelaxant, anti-HIV and anti-angiogenesis agent. Again, not an inclusive list of the potential benefits.
Amentoflavone is also available as a supplement. One commonly used by weight lifters is Amentomax.
As Cajun so succinctly put it
The Plan: 30-40 minutes before you dose
- a tablespoon of coconut oil (unless you're treating liver cancer)
- 80mg of apigenin
- 200mg of amentoflavone
- a cup of mango.
Now you're prepped for action. Have another cup of green tea.
A Base Treatment Regimen for Cancer
The piece on Demethylation that precedes this is in my blog.
Thoughts on Demethylation and the Methylation Cycle
The next piece, on supercharging the CCO, should really be Part A, and I'll probably make that change before I compile it all into a unit.
It makes me nervous to put it out there like this. Writer's angst. The work is more important than my angst. I also like the idea that we all get to input our thoughts. It makes it more of a community project, and that appeals to me. What I'm looking for from you all is any areas that aren't clear to you or where you believe more info is needed to flesh it out.
BIOAVAIBILITY: Part A
This piece was written for cancer patients healing themselves with Concentrated Cannabis Oil. Those of us who smoke or vape or ingest recreationally don't tend to think of it as medicating ourselves, but the reality is you're doing just that. Your Endocannabinoid System takes those additional cannabinoids and heals your system too, you just weren't aware of it. These methods will increase the level of your buzz and get more working cannabinoids into your healing body.
Remember, it's a numbers game. You worked hard to produce oil loaded with numbers of cannabinoids, terpenes and other beneficial molecules. Now your challenge becomes getting the greatest number of those fighters into the system without being degraded, metabolized or eliminated. We want them active in the business of destroying cancer cells and assisting the immune system, and we want them there as long as possible before they get washed out.
Let's look at the practical steps you can take to help your body get the greatest benefit from your priceless medication. How can we increase bioavailability?
We've already covered demethylation, so you're already doing things like drinking lots of green tea, eating dark, dark chocolate, cinnamon, mangoes, etc. right? Good. It enhances your bioavailability. Cajun also recently shared that "other supplements like garlic, tumeric, vitamin D3, selenium, and especially fish-based Omega 3's, melatonin, ect. all contribute to the cco by synergy at least 50 fold."
Now it's time to dose.
Begin by eating about 30-40 minutes before you dose. Your main focus here is to get the liver occupied so that when you dose it's busy with the previous "meal" and more cannabinoids will slip by unmolested. Since the liver is the organ responsible for processing oils, a good option is a tablespoon full of coconut oil, which is easily absorbed by the small intestines and transported to the liver. You give the liver busy work and get the fabulous nutritional benefits of coconut oil all at once. Win/win.
**A cautionary note** Coconut oil is contraindicated as a prep for treating liver cancer. You want the coconut oil you introduce to have cannabinoids with it and you want them to get straight to the liver, so the coconut oil you use is the carrier oil for the CCO. With liver cancer the use of supplements is necessary to creatively inhibit the liver.
The enzymes in the liver that metabolize most of the THC are aggressive by nature, and it behooves you to get them busy before dosing and keep them busy as you dose. As it turns out, there are some plant molecules, apigenin and amentoflavone, that attract those very same enzymes, known as CYP2C9. So you're increasing your odds by flooding the field with distractions.
Aside from being "busy work" for the enzymes, apigenin and amentoflavone offer some interesting benefits. I found twenty different anti-cancer effects of apigenin alone, among them the ability to inhibit angiogenesis (growing new blood vessels so the cell can continue to live) and to promote cell apoptosis (suicide) and that wasn't an all-inclusive list. Cajun shared that his oncologist recommended he take 1.5 grams of apigenin daily. He admits to taking about 500 mg a day because he just got sick of the number of pills. I can certainly understand that.
You can get apigenin from food sources, (Ginko Biloba, for one) but at the recommended levels I think a source for tablets might be necessary. It's easy to find. You're treating cancer. Big guns are called for.
Amentoflavone has been used for centuries in Chinese medicine as an anti-cancer medication. I browsed through an interesting Chinese study of the anti-cancer mechanisms of amentoflavone in the destruction of typical breast cancer MCF-7 cells. To be blunt, the amentoflavone degraded the integrity of the mitochondrial wall until it shredded and the tumor cell died. Interestingly enough, this was one of the mechanisms used by cannabinoids to cause cell death. Fascinating. Amentoflavone has been used in traditional medicine as an antioxidant, vasorelaxant, anti-HIV and anti-angiogenesis agent. Again, not an inclusive list of the potential benefits.
Amentoflavone is also available as a supplement. One commonly used by weight lifters is Amentomax.
As Cajun so succinctly put it
The Plan: 30-40 minutes before you dose
- a tablespoon of coconut oil (unless you're treating liver cancer)
- 80mg of apigenin
- 200mg of amentoflavone
- a cup of mango.
Now you're prepped for action. Have another cup of green tea.
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I'm having a strong aversion to food today. Haven't been able to finish either the banana or the oatmeal. Each bite is like torture. This is definately NOT normal for me. 
Oh! Maybe if I have some Jamaican Dream? I forgot I had some.
Oh! Maybe if I have some Jamaican Dream? I forgot I had some. 
kelticBlue
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hey Kiddo : - )
For some reason my eyes are killing me just these past seconds. I wanted to give a read. But alas, I did give a skim anyway.
It reads well from what I can see. I must confess, I am not as practiced at proof reading as I once was. I dated a girl who wrote Thesis and defense of thesis papers. I was her proof reader thru Grad and under grad school and I didn't know anything about American Literature at the time. But that is another topic.
I say rock on. And I will read a bit more later when my eyes are not going funny.
For some reason my eyes are killing me just these past seconds. I wanted to give a read. But alas, I did give a skim anyway.
It reads well from what I can see. I must confess, I am not as practiced at proof reading as I once was. I dated a girl who wrote Thesis and defense of thesis papers. I was her proof reader thru Grad and under grad school and I didn't know anything about American Literature at the time. But that is another topic.
I say rock on. And I will read a bit more later when my eyes are not going funny.
nugwrasslin
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Hey sue your garden is looking beautiful 
I was just wondering if you could stop by my journal quickly and drop some SWICK knowledge in response to my most recent post.
I was just wondering if you could stop by my journal quickly and drop some SWICK knowledge in response to my most recent post.
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hey Kiddo : - )
For some reason my eyes are killing me just these past seconds. I wanted to give a read. But alas, I did give a skim anyway.
It reads well from what I can see. I must confess, I am not as practiced at proof reading as I once was. I dated a girl who wrote Thesis and defense of thesis papers. I was her proof reader thru Grad and under grad school and I didn't know anything about American Literature at the time. But that is another topic.
I say rock on. And I will read a bit more later when my eyes are not going funny.
My son used to send me all his college papers to proofread. International studies. I felt at once so smart and so uneducated in historical events outside the U.S.
Sorry to hear about the eyes. You do know about Palming, don't you? That might help. That popped boldly to the front of my mind when I read that. As would a nice hit of anything handy. Hey sue your garden is looking beautiful
I was just wondering if you could stop by my journal quickly and drop some SWICK knowledge in response to my most recent post.
Already done. Glad to help. Don't hesitate to ask if you need more.
Oooo..... Chilly breeze sweeping off the river. Time to close the window and let the tents heat the room. Multi-tasking gardening. LOL!
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Daily Update: Day 32 & 34
It's finally time for that drench. This is the droopiness I was waiting for.
The CBD Critical Cure relented to the photo session in this state with the promise that I'd pull her out again later after she perked up.
The Critical Mass shows no signs of being thirsty at all. Good drought resistance!
The Auto Jack Herer gave me her notice today. This is the last day for training. LOL! From here on out we let her go and see what she's made of.
Med GOM 1.0 is quietly plugging away. Looking at her, it appears she's getting ready to go a bit vertical. That would make me very happy.
Fantasmo Express begged to be included in the training cessation. I think I'm ok with that.
Just a couple adjustments and they're all ready to simply grow.
Dark Devil Auto gained some additional grow space. I hoisted the light to the very tippy-top and cranked it all the way up.
Look at her go!!! Prettiest one I've grown so far.
The Photo Girls are back in the tent, switched under the lights. Still no sign of the Budmaster. If need be I can pull out some CFLs. It's not like I have no other options.
Well, there they are. Quite frankly, I'm always surprised, pleasantly so of course, every time I open the tent. They're right there next to me, so I do that often. Excellent mental health therapy, don't you think? LOL! Tomorrow the LOS pots get a nice SST and the HB girls get some DeStress foliar.
My rice wash for LABS got shifted out of sight until I smelled the mold, so I'm back to square one there. This time I'll set an alert on the phone and iPad. All these years and that one never occurs to me first.
I need to swing back through Squeektoi's yard - something I just remembered I forgot to share - then it's back to study mode for me. You all have a wonderful day spreading joy far and wide. It's a beautiful world. Let's make it a little better, shall we?
It's finally time for that drench. This is the droopiness I was waiting for.
The CBD Critical Cure relented to the photo session in this state with the promise that I'd pull her out again later after she perked up.
The Critical Mass shows no signs of being thirsty at all. Good drought resistance!
The Auto Jack Herer gave me her notice today. This is the last day for training. LOL! From here on out we let her go and see what she's made of.
Med GOM 1.0 is quietly plugging away. Looking at her, it appears she's getting ready to go a bit vertical. That would make me very happy.
Fantasmo Express begged to be included in the training cessation. I think I'm ok with that.
Just a couple adjustments and they're all ready to simply grow.
Dark Devil Auto gained some additional grow space. I hoisted the light to the very tippy-top and cranked it all the way up.
Look at her go!!! Prettiest one I've grown so far.
The Photo Girls are back in the tent, switched under the lights. Still no sign of the Budmaster. If need be I can pull out some CFLs. It's not like I have no other options.
Well, there they are. Quite frankly, I'm always surprised, pleasantly so of course, every time I open the tent. They're right there next to me, so I do that often. Excellent mental health therapy, don't you think? LOL! Tomorrow the LOS pots get a nice SST and the HB girls get some DeStress foliar.
My rice wash for LABS got shifted out of sight until I smelled the mold, so I'm back to square one there. This time I'll set an alert on the phone and iPad. All these years and that one never occurs to me first.
I need to swing back through Squeektoi's yard - something I just remembered I forgot to share - then it's back to study mode for me. You all have a wonderful day spreading joy far and wide. It's a beautiful world. Let's make it a little better, shall we?
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There's my happy girl.
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The lack of response on my Bioavailability piece suggests that I hit the right notes?
Noob4x4grow
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I thought your notes on Bioavailability were very interesting. Biology was my first degree and I was appalled at the lack of research and information on the subject of cannabinoids. The ability to absorb more cannabinoids by increasing intake of other items is fascinating and understandable in many different aspects. The only thing I would caution is a one size fits all approach. It has been my experience that every person reacts to marijuana in all its different forms, differently. I do find the information useful as a baseline, or jumping off point, to increase medicine strength and possible save some money by not having to medicate as heavily. I would love for the idiots in Washington to reschedule marijuana so it can be studied the way it should be through peer review studies and experiments.
(Those are some experiments I would sign up for). Great job Sue!
(Those are some experiments I would sign up for). Great job Sue!
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I thought your notes on Bioavailability were very interesting. Biology was my first degree and I was appalled at the lack of research and information on the subject of cannabinoids. The ability to absorb more cannabinoids by increasing intake of other items is fascinating and understandable in many different aspects. The only thing I would caution is a one size fits all approach. It has been my experience that every person reacts to marijuana in all its different forms, differently. I do find the information useful as a baseline, or jumping off point, to increase medicine strength and possible save some money by not having to medicate as heavily. I would love for the idiots in Washington to reschedule marijuana so it can be studied the way it should be through peer review studies and experiments.
(Those are some experiments I would sign up for). Great job Sue!
Thank you Noob4x4grow. I appreciate the input. You make an important point here that needs to be reinforced. Unlike most other medicines cannabis is entirely individual per patient. There really is NO one size fits all with cannabis. Everyone's body will react differently, so careful dosing is an absolute necessity. The basic rule is Start Low and Go Slow. Begin with very small doses and add on slowly until you hit the optimal dose. Then you can work for a therapeutic dose.
The preparing the body for increased bioavailability is outside of dosing considerations though. By increasing bioavailability you can cut back on the dose, and one of the newer findings going on now is that lower doses often have greater efficacy.
I'll be signing up for those experiments too.
Antonio (Modern Microbes) wrote a nice little intro to growing with lots of links and reading to check out. Its been updated.Introduction & Basic Concepts | TheModern Farm
I was at a birthday party this weekend, the homeowner has a huge train room that I hadn't seen in a while. Walking down the stairs to go see it, my thoughts were on you and Dale.
I was at a birthday party this weekend, the homeowner has a huge train room that I hadn't seen in a while. Walking down the stairs to go see it, my thoughts were on you and Dale.
Hi there SweetSue
Don't know how I missed this thread.
I've been wondering where you've been.
I only read first page and the last few and it looks like you have things well under control.
Keep up the good work and
Happy Growing
HH
Don't know how I missed this thread.
I've been wondering where you've been.
I only read first page and the last few and it looks like you have things well under control.
Keep up the good work and
Happy Growing
HH
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Antonio (Modern Microbes) wrote a nice little intro to growing with lots of links and reading to check out. Its been updated.Introduction & Basic Concepts | TheModern Farm
I was at a birthday party this weekend, the homeowner has a huge train room that I hadn't seen in a while. Walking down the stairs to go see it, my thoughts were on you and Dale.
Thank you 36. I love the way he presents the info. Having that list of when in the geowth cycle to add what teas and the breakdown of the value of each one is invaluable. I'm doing a barley tea tomorrow.
You reminded me to get the next batch of LABS started. Thanks for that too. Yeah, the trains. You touched my heart there. Mulch. I simply must get mulch in there. Where are those seeds?
Noob4x4grow
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Sue, where can I find the original research on your article. It has me intrigued. I would like to read more.
Noob4x4grow
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Your ladies are looking lovely by the way. I do watch your grows, in addition to reading your posts in between. lol
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