The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return

Oh, one more thing, as much as I try I cant fix my signature at the bottom of my posts where it goes to my journal. When I click on it, it always says page cant be displayed. I cant figure out what to do when it says put in a link. Sorry for bugging you but I know you would be able to help me figure it out with more details. Im very computer illiterate so don't laugh when I tell you I don't know about "links" or "URLs" im just old and set in my ways and computers are something just my kids are good at. Thanks Sue.
 
cannaruss said:
Hello Sue!! Sorry im late to the show. There was no way I could read your whole journal that would take me a month. You seem to have some good knowledge for growing. I have an off topic question for you. My two Swiss Cheese clones where in 3 gallon pots that were really root bound. I just put them in flower about 6 days ago and decided to transplant them into 10 gallon pots last night. Is this too late to do a transplant? Will they get bigger than they would have if I kept them in the 3 gallon? I was just real hesitant to transplant in flowering stage. Your thoughts?
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Sue.......:reading420magazine:......?
 
cannaruss said:
Hello Sue!! Sorry im late to the show. There was no way I could read your whole journal that would take me a month. You seem to have some good knowledge for growing. I have an off topic question for you. My two Swiss Cheese clones where in 3 gallon pots that were really root bound. I just put them in flower about 6 days ago and decided to transplant them into 10 gallon pots last night. Is this too late to do a transplant? Will they get bigger than they would have if I kept them in the 3 gallon? I was just real hesitant to transplant in flowering stage. Your thoughts?
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Since you are growing in strait-up perlite hempys you have to assume a bit of root damage from your transplant. That in itself will slow them down. Since they are photos, its not a huge deal...they may take a week or 2 longer. I have never grown in hempys, but if I understand the process, if the pot is too small, flushing with fresh nutes every day will refresh the reservoir. Wasteful, yes, but IMHO better than tearing roots at flower time.

{URL="Cannaruss' Adventures In Hempy Style"]Cannaruss' adventures in Hempy style [/URL}

As to your sig, change the {} at the beginning and end to [] and use that :)

:peacetwo:
 
cannaruss said:
I finally got this signature to work, just not quite what I wanted it to read. Oh well, at least I got it to work. Woo Hoo!!! The folks on here are super helpful, that's what I love about this site.
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That was my bad...I went in and edited my post so that it would read right :) Sorry

As to the transplanting...a bit of a delay, will tend to offset stretch. I go from 1g veg containers to my 5g softies when I add a girl to the flower tent. It keeps them nice and short. (I grow in coco/perlite) Since I always have flowering girls in there I cant let them veg to fill the pot. One of these days Im going to let them veg for another week after transplant before I throw them in the flower tent,
 
Mouser: Your plants do all their major structural growth during veg, to prepare for the final, flowering/harvest stage. You will get much more out of your harvest if you up-pot to the larger posts mid-veg. In my opinion, having raised all kinds of flowers, veggies, and shrubs over 40+ years, is that plants already in flower won't have the energy or the hormones to both add roots and leaves in any meaningful quantity AND produce a large crop.

The concept holds in the animal world for the most part, as in the plant world. You need to grow the best juveniles you can while they are in their growth period. Once the major growth stops, the hormones switch to reproductive mode. Other than a final stretch at what we call "puberty" in animals, or "the stretch" in cannabis, there will be little or no vegetative growth of roots, stems and leaves, once flowering begins.

Up-pot earlier during your next grow (or batch of juveniles). You'll get more yield. if you can manage it, use 5 gallon containers. Short and wide for low headroom and tall and thin (waste bins) if you have plenty of headroom.
 
AKgramma said:
Mouser: Your plants do all their major structural growth during veg, to prepare for the final, flowering/harvest stage. You will get much more out of your harvest if you up-pot to the larger posts mid-veg. In my opinion, having raised all kinds of flowers, veggies, and shrubs over 40+ years, is that plants already in flower won't have the energy or the hormones to both add roots and leaves in any meaningful quantity AND produce a large crop.

The concept holds in the animal world for the most part, as in the plant world. You need to grow the best juveniles you can while they are in their growth period. Once the major growth stops, the hormones switch to reproductive mode. Other than a final stretch at what we call "puberty" in animals, or "the stretch" in cannabis, there will be little or no vegetative growth of roots, stems and leaves, once flowering begins.

Up-pot earlier during your next grow (or batch of juveniles). You'll get more yield. if you can manage it, use 5 gallon containers. Short and wide for low headroom and tall and thin (waste bins) if you have plenty of headroom.
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Thanks AK....I understand the concept, but my current situation doesnt allow 5g's in the veg closet. My current procedure is to take a clone before a plant gets its 5g in the flower tent. That way the seed lives on, and Im more than happy with a 1-1.5z/plant harvest in the tent. It also lets me play more. Im hoping for legalization in MA next week so I can set my niece up with her own plants.

:peacetwo:
 
This is true. Most peeps veg area is much smaller than flowering chamber. Getting a 5 or 10 gallon in the veg room would be rough. I see your point though AK, I just didn't want a rootbound plant all the way through flower and was hoping the roots would expand some. Thanks for the info (even though you were talking to Mouser I have the same issue).
 
cannaruss said:
My goal is to one of these days win a prize package on 420. Maybe with a plant or a bud. I doubt I could ever win member of the month, I don't quite have the personality it takes and computer knowledge and humor and all that good stuff. But hey, its still fun stuff!!!
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Welcome cannaruss. Sorry I was away so long. :welcome: I've been busy with soil building and getting my pots in line for the big transplant coming up.

Thank you all for helping out. The information shared was invaluable. AKgramma, I can't say enough how much I appreciate the fact that you share all that wisdom on my journal. That's a lot of years growing.

cannaruss, here's the link to the tutorial on setting up the link in your signature. I believe you just need to make a small modification, and it'll read what you want.

You want it to look like this

Cannaruss' adventures in Hempy style

and to make that happen you just need to replace the one you have with this piece of code, adding on the bracket ( [ ) in the beginning.

URL="Cannaruss' Adventures In Hempy Style"]Cannaruss' Adventures In Hempy Style[/URL]

I have to share: I've been busy planning soil building, researching how to amend the no-tills and working on a plan for each grow space. This is my workspace today. :laughtwo:

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I'll be back with updates and such in a bit. I've been working like a demon cleaning the balcony and getting bigger pots in hand for the big transplant event on Wednesday. I need a buzz. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
cannaruss said:
Hello Sue!! Sorry im late to the show. There was no way I could read your whole journal that would take me a month.
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:laughtwo: I forgot about this cannaruss. No one expects you to try to read all the way through one of my journals. We'd so much rather you jump into the fun we're having right now. I'm so glad you understood that. :hugs: :Love:
 
cannaruss said:
This is true. Most peeps veg area is much smaller than flowering chamber. Getting a 5 or 10 gallon in the veg room would be rough. I see your point though AK, I just didn't want a rootbound plant all the way through flower and was hoping the roots would expand some. Thanks for the info (even though you were talking to Mouser I have the same issue).
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For what it's worth, I up-potted my first 3 plants in flower tent. When I harvested the root balls were still 1 gal size. I looked like they didn't even try to expand roots. Only benefit of extra soil was to keep pots from drying out as quickly. Otherwise my conclusion is that there is little to no benefit to up-potting in the flower tent.
 
Hey there Sue....now yer gonna have some fun woman! Big pot, big girl, big buds, =big smile!...:)
 
duggan said:
Hey there Sue....now yer gonna have some fun woman! Big pot, big girl, big buds, =big smile!...:)
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Given the nature of our discussion here today, and in particular Rabbit's last post, is it worth it to try to upcan her at this point Duggan? She's already into 10 gallons and appears to be struggling to cope with that much root space. Obviously, she's not using what she has up to potential.

I'm wondering if we don't want to just let her ride it out and see what she's made of. Let's take a look at her today.

Daily Update: Carnival #2, Day 103 (Flip + 23)

I gave her a DeStress foliar. If ever I saw a stressed plant it was this one, so I relented and doused her good right before lights out.

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Despite the challenge with her leaves the branches are strong and healthy and she's putting on impressive flowers. It's definately time for the first CAT, as soon as she dries out next.

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I love the way she set up these two tiers of flowers. :laughtwo:

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She's set her size horizontally. If she goes anywhere from here on out it's gonna be verticle. That means I can make better use of the space and the light if I add in a couple of the bigger clones, after they've grown more roots to fill their larger pots, to flower out in this space.

If I move her to the front corner, still giving her plenty of space to finish....

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...it leaves me this space back here.....

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...which will accommodate two pots with clones.

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On Wednesday I'll transplant them and give them 2-3 weeks to fill their pots then flip them into here. I'm figuring #2 for the bigger pot and #1 for the smaller one. Then there'll be one more clone (#4) vegging in the auto tent in 7 gallons of soil to follow Carnival #2.

Sounds like a plan. :blunt:


 
Oh Sue, it's totally up to you. Either way , she will still do well, cuz of the soil she is in. Gotta book it....game to get to ! cheers SS!
 
Soil Building: LOS

I spent a sizable portion of the past few days researching and reflecting on amending my LOS. The basic components are sound, but it's worth checking and adjusting for things like balance of basic components and aeration in particular. I pulled out the bin and added more rice hulls, some perlite a third cup of CC-style minerals and a cup of CC rock dust, mixed it all up until I felt it was the right consistency and then built another cubic foot of soil right on top of it.

The basic recipe is
- equal parts sphagnum, aeration (I used rice hulls and perlite), and humus (EWC, compost, vermicompost)
- 1.5 cups amendments mix
- 4 cups mineral mix

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The sphagnum's been out on the balcony for quite a while, so I want it sterilized first. The easiest way to do this is to load about a gallon of damp sphagnum (approx 2 pounds) into a roasting bag and microwave it on high for 2 1/2 minutes, leaving the bag open to vent. As soon as the microwave stops close the bag up and let it cool before opening it.

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This pot is a gallon size, so I used it to get the measurement right. I also measured, and it takes 10 of these pots to fill my 7 gallon pots, my standard for a cubic foot of soil (about 7.5 gallons).

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When I'm measuring out the mineral mix I usually take the time to break up the larger pieces.

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To help break everything down over time I used the comfrey I started yesterday to be used as fertilizer to make a small drench for the bin. I added a little more RO water and shrilled it up with the immersion blender.

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Then I added some fresh aloe vera gel....

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...topped it off to three cups and blended it all up.

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The soil got mixed, the drench added and mixed some more.

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I'llpop it open every day for a while and give it a stir. The nice thing about this soil mix is that it can be used immediately. I won't need it for a bit. The clones that'll use this soil are the smaller ones from #2. I'm not sure if I'm going to try to save the other two that came from #1. I have a few days to make that call.

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I had a bag of leaves on the balcony that've been neglected for a couple years. Time to do something with them. I don't have the luxury of worms (I refuse to kill any more :straightface:). That means I need to be creative. I started by emptying the bag into a tote and breaking up the wet clumps, getting a more homogeneous mix.

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Comfrey makes one of the best additives to a compost mix you can get. I don't have leaves, the preferred method, but I do have roots, and they can be powder d and added to the bin.

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I'll keep turning this and adding more comfrey water to help it keep breaking down. Then it becomes part of the humus mix in the LOS bins.

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It can sit right here on top of the soil bin.

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Since I used all my comfrey that was being prepared for fertilizer I made more.

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I love making soil. Such a nerd. :laughtwo:
 
KingstonRabbi said:
You've visited my page, so I know that's not true! :laughtwo:



It certainly is. :circle-of-love: But when we make plans the Buddha laughs. :rofl:

Have some Laughing Buddha. :passitleft:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thank you so much Rabbit. :passitleft:
 
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