The Perpetual Healing Garden - SweetSue's Joyful Return

Sweetsue,

I have been reading through this site upon the recommendation of a longtime member that I met at a 420 event last year. I am more of the reader-type than a poster when it comes to Internet Forums but I'm trying to change that personalty quirk. Your posts and journals are very impressive, you have shared your life and time with people that need help. How freakin' hard that would be for me! Back pats to you! It seems there are about a few dozen responsible adults that call this place home. Nothing against anyone, but I'm a little too old for teenage slang and bad attitudes so prevalent on most cannabis sites. So far this place seems different and mature, I am glad to have found this resource and group. Thank you for selfishly assisting people with their health and lives. Personally, I don't need much in life to be happy, I have been fortunate and blessed (OK, it's had many major challenges), and life is grand. I have been growing many things since I can remember (my parents owned a nursery), so I won't be bugging anyone for "grow advice"!

Thank You

Whew ... that was more difficult than you might know ... I'm trying!

Keith

Hi and welcome to :420: We are a virtual family and love helping out. Also it is not bugging to ask for advise.
I too was searching for forums before.. and in all (except this) was the slang/ attitude that didn't belong in my vocabulary.
You found your way to the correct place and Sue is an amazing person we love BIG!

:circle-of-love:
 
Ya it takes a bit of patience at the beginning til the roots hit the res. Is it in the big hempy the last one is in? If so that is probably a contributing factor here. She does look like she is working on growing though so that is hopeful. If you are looking for a nute schedule i suggest going to the general hydroponics site and getting the pdf for the drain to waste schedule, im using it myself but if you do just keep an eye on your girl to be sure its not too hot for her ya might have to adjust the strength but atleast you will have a guideline to work from.

Thank you lexort. Your constant presence is reassuring. I was thinking just yesterday that it must be time for a more organized approach to this and things like the chart are still foreign to me, so it was greatly appreciated. I've downloaded and consulted it and will do a flush of the reservoir next watering as well as up the nutrient strength as soon as she shows me that she's ready to take off. I don't want to overwhelm her while she's still so tiny.
 
Smoke Report:CBD Crew CBD Critical Mass

I have to tell you, this one was a surprise. I'd been thinking of the Critical Mass as simply meds, with no ability to get me high, since it should have been a 1:1 ratio, if not higher in CBD content, given the growing medium, but last night Chewey enticed me to try smoking her. Wow! What a magnificent buzz!!! Caught me totally off guard. You all know my penchant for tiny hits, and after the third such hit it felt like I grew taller. It made me think of the scene in Alice in Wonderland where she drank the contents of the bottle and grew. :laughtwo: Such a strange sensation.

The buzz was initially all head, and it was soaring and clear, akin to the Carnival buzz but with a different flavor. The way Chewey explained his was he was able to talk to the kids and not forget what he said. :laughtwo: I understand what he meant by that. I took my hits and went off to dinner by the river and the buzz just kept climbing and climbing. About an hour into the experience, after getting some food into the system, it shifted somewhat to a series of body rushes and heart pounding accelerations that I thoroughly enjoyed.

It lasted for over three hours before I thought to try again. I always wonder if I imagined it. Hahaha! The second go round I didn't start until around 11 PM and at 11:25 I suddenly decided it was time for bed, a good 5 hours earlier than that inclination has been hitting me lately. I slept a straight 7.5 hours, the longest stretch in over a year.

This morning I'm going to test smoke the CBD Critical Cure and see if it has the same effect. This shouldn't surprise me so much. In the wild cannabis hits close to the 1:1 ratio. It's all the breeding that's occurred since the 70s that changed what we smoke so much. How ironic that the breeders are now going in reverse and shooting for more CBD instead of more THC.
 
Sweetsue,

I have been reading through this site upon the recommendation of a longtime member that I met at a 420 event last year. I am more of the reader-type than a poster when it comes to Internet Forums but I'm trying to change that personalty quirk. Your posts and journals are very impressive, you have shared your life and time with people that need help. How freakin' hard that would be for me! Back pats to you! It seems there are about a few dozen responsible adults that call this place home. Nothing against anyone, but I'm a little too old for teenage slang and bad attitudes so prevalent on most cannabis sites. So far this place seems different and mature, I am glad to have found this resource and group. Thank you for selfishly assisting people with their health and lives. Personally, I don't need much in life to be happy, I have been fortunate and blessed (OK, it's had many major challenges), and life is grand. I have been growing many things since I can remember (my parents owned a nursery), so I won't be bugging anyone for "grow advice"!

Thank You

Whew ... that was more difficult than you might know ... I'm trying!

Keith

Hey Keith....your here brotha! A very warm welcome to the "mag" . You found Sue's place i see...a great place to be here in HBland. You have stumbled upon a place filled with very talented and experienced growers who will help you at EVERY turn in the road. As people they are even better and you will soon see yourself. Take some time Keith and read thru some of our (DBHBB) grow journals...we are on point with Doc's "kit" and the masses are coming to join us. Our repeated success is very hard to ignore. Once again , a warm welcome to ya...enjoy your stay....cheers bud!:circle-of-love:
 
Hey Keith....your here brotha! A very warm welcome to the "mag" . You found Sue's place i see...a great place to be here in HBland. You have stumbled upon a place filled with very talented and experienced growers who will help you at EVERY turn in the road. As people they are ven better and you will soon see yourself. Take some time Keith and read thru some of our (DBHBB) grow journals...we are on point with Doc's "kit" and the masses are coming to join us. Our repeated success is very hard to ignore. Once again , a warm welcome to ya...enjoy your stay....cheers bud!:circle-of-love:


What Duggan said! You picked the perfect journal to start in, Sue is awesome, morning Sue!
 
It has been a question of mine.. when you hear high cbd low thc or medical in general... does the THC kick you??

Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is what has the psychoactive properties. You can remember by "The High Causer"! :rofl:
THC has it's own healing properties, but is what gets you "high".

Cannabidiol (CBD) also has healing properties, but does not cause the "euphoria" associated with being high, so is often used in medical applications, especially for children where you may want high CBD and low THC content of the meds.
 
Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is what has the psychoactive properties. You can remember by "The High Causer"! :rofl:
THC has it's own healing properties, but is what gets you "high".

Cannabidiol (CBD) also has healing properties, but does not cause the "euphoria" associated with being high, so is often used in medical applications, especially for children where you may want high CBD and low THC content of the meds.

Hi thanks I didn't express myself well enough, I meant that if you smoke a joint with more CBD than THC ..a medical plant for example...you still feel the THC ?
 
Hi thanks I didn't express myself well enough, I meant that if you smoke a joint with more CBD than THC ..a medical plant for example...you still feel the THC ?

Of course, but how much you feel after one joint depends on the level of THC in the bud and the amount of buds in the joint you just smoked.

In case it was too low a THC content, here' have another :) ...

:passitleft:
 
Hi thanks I didn't express myself well enough, I meant that if you smoke a joint with more CBD than THC ..a medical plant for example...you still feel the THC ?

That's a really good question, AngryBird. As I understand it, CBD levels have a dampening effect on high THC strains too. The simplistic picture is, THC gets your brain stoned, CBD gets your body stoned. Weed that is relatively high in both THC and CBD results in "couch lock", and (for me) nap time. At least, that's how this stoner sees it.

Of course, things are more complicated. There's a whole
bunch of interactions between the cannabinoids, including terpenes. Medical users who have access to a variety of strains learn to use their nose to predict how well a given sample will work for their condition.

Cheers! :peace::passitleft:
 
In the wild cannabis hits close to the 1:1 ratio. It's all the breeding that's occurred since the 70s that changed what we smoke so much. How ironic that the breeders are now going in reverse and shooting for more CBD instead of more THC.


Maybe it's because many of the home growers/smokers are now over 50, and are asking for the CBD, not the THC. Even my own family, esp the grandkids, as they get older, are coming to me for the green that relaxes and puts them to sleep. If they want the dank stuff, there are plenty of neighbors who grow for the trippy highs.

There are a LOT of us Old Farts, and I think there are enough of us to steer the industry towards more medicinal strains.

Plus, commercial Cannibus growers are trying to get legalized through medicinal use first, and it's working. Medical MJ opens the door to recreational use later, in many cases (not all). And you can't gain the trust of legislators with high TCH strains. It takes time to leave behind the paranoia the government instilled in our minds in the second half of the 20th Century.
 
Ya know ... :hmmm: ... I haven't seen much public talk about how we're affected by CBD. I don't read medical threads though, so it may be out there. I mean, sure, the purely physical properties - epilepsy for instance, pain and muscle management - and I'm definitely aware of the psychological affects of CBD too - mood damping/stability.

I have a Channel+ which is supposed to be 1:1, and I've smoked enough of it to have a good grip on the high, but I don't really have symptoms that would need CBD. I'm a high guy. :cheesygrinsmiley: So I have to search for CBD effects. I feel a certain "stability" when I smoke Channel+, I guess. It's a good punchy up high - I'd estimate THC around mid-teens - but it also has a serene sort of calmness to it, and that's what I associate the CBD with.

Aside from physical relief, what do the rest of you feel when you smoke a CBD strain?
 
That's a really good question, AngryBird. As I understand it, CBD levels have a dampening effect on high THC strains too. The simplistic picture is, THC gets your brain stoned, CBD gets your body stoned. Weed that is relatively high in both THC and CBD results in "couch lock", and (for me) nap time. At least, that's how this stoner sees it.

Of course, things are more complicated. There's a whole
bunch of interactions between the cannabinoids, including terpenes. Medical users who have access to a variety of strains learn to use their nose to predict how well a given sample will work for their condition.

Cheers! :peace::passitleft:

Ya know ... :hmmm: ... I haven't seen much public talk about how we're affected by CBD. I don't read medical threads though, so it may be out there. I mean, sure, the purely physical properties - epilepsy for instance, pain and muscle management - and I'm definitely aware of the psychological affects of CBD too - mood damping/stability.

I have a Channel+ which is supposed to be 1:1, and I've smoked enough of it to have a good grip on the high, but I don't really have symptoms that would need CBD. I'm a high guy. :cheesygrinsmiley: So I have to search for CBD effects. I feel a certain "stability" when I smoke Channel+, I guess. It's a good punchy up high - I'd estimate THC around mid-teens - but it also has a serene sort of calmness to it, and that's what I associate the CBD with.

Aside from physical relief, what do the rest of you feel when you smoke a CBD strain?

Here ya' go:

[h=3]THC, THCV, CBG, CBC, CBN, and CBD[/h] The most common cannabinoids in cannabis are THC, THCV, CBG, CBC, CBN, and CBD. Since the 1980’s, the discovery of cannabinoid receptor cells has produced multitudes of research of the effects and workings of canabinoids. It was first hypothesized that cannabinoids produced their physiological and behavorial effects via non-specific interaction with cell membranes. It is now known that cannbinoids interact with specific membrane-bound receptors commonly found in mammals, birds, fish and reptiles. At present, there are two known types of cannabinoid receptors, termed CB1 and CB2.
When considering cannabis as an alternative medicine, it is important to remember that each cannabis strain has a unique chemical composition with varying amounts of THC, THCV, CBG, CBC, CBN, and CBD. Each strain can affect each person differently. Additionally, cultivation artists are taking cannabis strains and altering their genetic DNA by breeding the best characteristics from each plant. Thus, there are thousands of different variations of the cannabis plant.
Our friends at Canna-Test provided us with a quick visual profile of the potency of cannabinoids, THCV, CBG, CBC, CBN, and CBD. Take some moments to look and become an educated cannabis connoisseur and start bragging to your friends about how much you know about this natural vegetative delight.

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[TD="width: 143"] THC
Tetrahydrocannabinol


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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
Responsible for the ‘’High’’-effect (psychotropic): it amplifies all sensory functions such as sight, hearing, color sensitivity and increases sexual arousal and a greater sense of well being. Produces strong feelings of euphoria. Sharpens the mind (cerebral) and promotes creativity. Analgesic (pain relieving), sedative, relaxing, energetic, promotes creativity.
Discovery:
1964, Gaoni and Mechoulm, Weizmann Institue Rehovot.
Known Medicinal Benefits:

  • Anxiolytic – reduces the symptoms of anxiety
  • Neuroprotective – protects against nerve damage
  • Antispasmodic – relieves spasms and convulsions
  • Antiemetic – reduces vomiting and nausea
  • Analgesic – reduces pain
  • Appetite Stimulant – encourages eating and appetite
  • Antioxidant – fights free radicals in the bloodstream
  • Neuropathic analgesic – reduces pain from nervedamage
  • Bronchi-dialator -acts similarly to an inhaler to assist asthmatics with breathing
  • Anti-proliferative anticancer – reduces spread of certain cancers
  • Anti-inflammatory – reduces inflammation
  • Neurogenesis – promotes growth of new nerve tissue
  • Neuroprotectant – protects nerves from damage
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[TD="width: 143"] THCV
Tetrahydrocannabivarin

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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
A psychoactive cannabinoid found along with THC in cannabis, research has shown that, in low doses, THCV will increase the effects of THC (strongly potentiating THC, provoking a heavy, stronger and faster “High”-effect) but in larger doses THCV is believed to oppose the effects of THC. Recent research into THCV has focused on its ability to reduce appetite.
Discovery: 1970, Edward Gil and colleagues, UK
Known medical benefits:

  • Apetite suppressant

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[TD="width: 143"] CBD
Cannabidiol



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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
CBD works antagonistically in the micromolar range; it has an opposite effect of THC. It reduces the psychoactive effect, or the ‘’high’’ of THC, but in contrast, it will prolong slowly but increasingly this effect strongly. Not psychoactive. Effective against anxiety and stress (sedative). Strong muscle relaxation, especially on the smooth muscle fibers thus reducing muscle spasms.
Discovery:
1940, first isolated by Adams and colleagues, and stereochemically determined in 1963 by Mechoulam and Shvo.
Known Medicinal Benefits:

  • Anxiolytic – reduces the symptoms of anxiety.
  • Antiepileptic - reduces seizures and convulsions
  • Neuroprotective – protects against nerve damage
  • Vasorelaxant – reduces tension in blood vessel walls
  • Antispasmodic – relieves spasms and convulsions
  • Anti-ischemic – reduces risk of artery blockage
  • Antiemetic – reduces vomiting and nausea
  • Antibacterial – kills surface bacteria
  • Antidiabetic – reduces blood sugar levels
  • Antipsoriatic – reduces effects of psoriasis
  • Antipsychotic – reduces psychosis including delusions or hallucinations
  • Analgesic – reduces pain
  • Bone-stimulant – promotes bone growth
  • Intestinal anti-prokinetic – reduces contractions in the small intestine
  • Anti-inflammatory – reduces inflammation
  • Antiproliferative anticancer – reduces spread of certain cancers
  • Immunosuppressant – reduces function in immune system
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[TD="width: 143"] CBN
Cannabinol

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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
Mildly psychoactive, sedative, analgesic. CBN is, just like aspirin, a non-narcotic type analgesic, but 3x as strong. CBN is a breakdown product of THC. During storage (aging) CBN will slowly increase as THC deteriorates. CBN is effective at relieving tension headache.
Discovery:
1896, Wood and colleagues in Cambridge, the first natural cannabinoid to be obtained in pure form
Known Medicinal Benefits:

  • Antispasmodic – relieves spasms and convulsions
  • Analgesic – reduces pain
  • Anti-inflammatory – reduces inflammation
  • Antioxidant – fights free radicals in the bloodstream
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[TD="width: 143"] CBG
Cannabigerol

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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
Sedative, CBG tends to be higher in cannabis species without much THC (hemp varieties) and has hitherto been found only in trace amounts in most marijuana strains. CBG is the precursor form of a few of the other cannabinoids including THC and CBD. While little research has been conducted on CBG, it has been found to have medical properties including acting as a sedative, sleep inducer. Anti-microbial properties make it effective in treating bacterial infections.
Discovery:
1964 Gaoni and Mechoulam
Known Medicinal Benefits:

  • Antibacterial – kills surface bacteria
  • Anti-microbial
  • Antiproliferative – inhibits cell growth
  • Bone Stimulant – promotes bone growth
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[TD="width: 143"] CBC
Cannabichromene

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[TD="width: 300"] Brief:
Non-psychoactive cannabinoid that also potentiates THC. It interacts in an as yet unknown way with THC to make the ‘’high’’ more intense and pronounced. it is also considered a strong sedative and analgesic.
Discovery:
1966 independently reported by Claussen and colleagues as well as Gaoni and Mechoulam.
Known Medicinal Benefits:

  • Anti-inflammatory – reduces inflammation
  • Analgesic – reduces pain
  • Bone Stimulant – promotes bone growth
  • Antimicrobial – kills bacteria or fungi
  • Antiproliferative – inhibits cell growth
  • Vasoconstriction - constricting of the blood vessels
  • Effective treatment of migraine
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[TD] THCA
D9-Tetrahydrocannabinolic Acid

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[TD] Brief:
D9-THC has two acidic analogs: D9-THCA A and D9-THCA Bc. D9-THCA
Discovery:
D9-THCA A, first extracted by Korte and coworkers (1965), was isolated as a pure compound in 1967 by Nishioka’s group. In 1969, Mechoulam and coworkers reported the isolation of D9-THCA B.
Known medical benefits:

  • Anti-proliferative
  • Anti-spasmodic
  • Anti-inflamatory

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[TD] CBDA
Cannabidiolic Acid

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[TD] Brief:
The first cannabinoid acidc to be discovered, Together with CBD, CBDA is the main component of glandular hairs (up to 15%). In fresh plant material, 95% of CBD exists as its acid.
Discovery: 1955, Isolated by Krejci and Santavy.
Known Medical Benefits:

  • Anti-proliferative actions
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[TD] References
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[TD] Angelo A. Izzo1,4, Francesca Borrelli1,4, Raffaele Capasso1,4, Vincenzo Di Marzo2,4 and Raphael Mechoulam3. (2009) Non-psychotropic plant cannabinoids: new therapeutic opportunities from an ancient herb. TIPS-730. 13
Department of Experimental Pharmacology, University of Naples Federico II, Naples, Italy 2 Institute of Biomolecular Chemistry, National Research Council, Pozzuoli (NA), Italy 3Department of Medicinal Chemistry and Natural Products, Hebrew University Medical Faculty, Jerusalem, Israel 4Endocannabinoid Research Group, Italy
R.J. Glas Alpha Nova Pharma Wageningen

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Let me add my two cents worth to the discussion by way of another smoke report.

Smoke Report: CBD Critical Cure

OK, I'll admit, another one that caught me off guard, because, like many of you, I was thinking a balanced ration of THC to CBD would mellow out the high and I wouldn't be satisfied with it. Because, like Graytail, I'm looking for the soaring high I consistently get with Carnival and the mildly hallucinogenic speedy high I get from the Dark Devil Auto.

Six hits in and I suddenly jumped up and got my cleaning supplies together. It's the last day of the month, the day I clean the stairwells. I grabbed a brownie on the way out, so that's coming into play here too, but it was the Crotical Cure that got me moving. I've been at it steady for about 90 minutes, and I've another 30 or so to go to get it up to my standards. My mind is clear and focused on the task at hand, feeling very upbeat in the crushing heat. I'm humming and singing along to my favorite playlist, just moving right through this monthly chore that has so much potential to be a drag. :laughtwo:

So, I find this one a great motivator. It's also sent me into some pretty deep internal discussions as I work, so good for introspection. I'm going to take a couple more hits, grab some fresh water and finish the job. I like this strain too.

Graytail, I think you nailed it with the punchy, but stable high. That's a perfect description for what I'm experiencing with the CBD Critical Cure. I'm energetic but in a controlled way. I think tomorrow I'll have to try it again, to see how consistent it hits with me, without a brownie. Lol! Those brownies are hard to pass up.

Let's see what a booster shot does. :battingeyelashes:
 
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