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The Joy Of Growing - SweetSue Goes Perpetual
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Possible Nug of the Month submission.
I just harvested the two Bubblelicious ladies and they weight about 10oz with stems and all. If I get 10-20% of that, I'll be happy as this is my first harvest and they had a pretty traumatic life - from window to CFL to LED and from Jiffy pellet to 1/2 gal to 1 and 2 gal pots. They lived in Fox Farm Happy Frog soil and only received General Hydroponics "Grow" nutrients (the package says for both hydro and soil). They are both hanging upside down in my tent as I type, and hopefully they'll be dry by early next week.
Looking at what you're doing with autos almost makes me retract my earlier statement, but I'm still going to shy away from them. Since I live in Colorado, there is no shortage of good genetics to choose from. I will likely be using clones from this point out, unless I decide to try my hand at growing Charlotte's Web from seed to get a high-THC/high-CBD pheno. I must note that I currently have one mystery seed from Nirvana seeds that is taking quite well to HB soil. Maybe she'll be the new Chemdawg? Assuming, of course, that she is a she and not a he.
Anyway, here is a photo of a bud I harvested a few days ago from Bubblelicious #1. Nug of the month material?
I just harvested the two Bubblelicious ladies and they weight about 10oz with stems and all. If I get 10-20% of that, I'll be happy as this is my first harvest and they had a pretty traumatic life - from window to CFL to LED and from Jiffy pellet to 1/2 gal to 1 and 2 gal pots. They lived in Fox Farm Happy Frog soil and only received General Hydroponics "Grow" nutrients (the package says for both hydro and soil). They are both hanging upside down in my tent as I type, and hopefully they'll be dry by early next week.
Looking at what you're doing with autos almost makes me retract my earlier statement, but I'm still going to shy away from them. Since I live in Colorado, there is no shortage of good genetics to choose from. I will likely be using clones from this point out, unless I decide to try my hand at growing Charlotte's Web from seed to get a high-THC/high-CBD pheno. I must note that I currently have one mystery seed from Nirvana seeds that is taking quite well to HB soil. Maybe she'll be the new Chemdawg? Assuming, of course, that she is a she and not a he.
Anyway, here is a photo of a bud I harvested a few days ago from Bubblelicious #1. Nug of the month material?
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The dramatic lighting and the overwhelming frostiness say a resounding "YES". Enter that nug.
Hells Yeah!
My ideal for your ideal 4'x4' tent setup.
Thanks for the explanations, Sue. It's always a pleasure to stop by and join in the discussion.
I have no doubts that your system will fit your needs - it did for Ziggy. If I had a 4'x4' tent, I'd probably be trying to squeeze in as many strains as possible. I decided that I'm going to stick with two strains next round to avoid the overcrowding that happened this time. That said, choosing just two strains is such a difficult proposition. Do I choose: Blue Dream, Super Lemon Haze, Durban Poison, Flo, Animal Cookies, Maui (not Waui), Island Sweet Skunk, Great White Shark, Dead Head OG, White Diesel, or Papaya again? And those are just the strains a friend is growing that I'm interested in. Plus, let's not forget that I have a mystery seed in the mix that could very well turn out to be my pride and joy.
The cheese candy has bounced by wonderfully! Did the HST (high-stress training) allow you to lower the LED? And I see the new/old Mars Hydro 100x3w has made its way in as well. So many lights and plenty of space; the tent configurations are swirling around in my head like mad. Here is my #1:
Oh, it's beautiful outside! I must go enjoy some outdoors stuff and fireworks later this evening. Happy 'Merica Day!
Before I go, try some of the Bubblelicious #1 that I just harvested---->
You were a delightful read upon waking.
Thanks for the explanations, Sue. It's always a pleasure to stop by and join in the discussion.
I have no doubts that your system will fit your needs - it did for Ziggy. If I had a 4'x4' tent, I'd probably be trying to squeeze in as many strains as possible. I decided that I'm going to stick with two strains next round to avoid the overcrowding that happened this time. That said, choosing just two strains is such a difficult proposition. Do I choose: Blue Dream, Super Lemon Haze, Durban Poison, Flo, Animal Cookies, Maui (not Waui), Island Sweet Skunk, Great White Shark, Dead Head OG, White Diesel, or Papaya again? And those are just the strains a friend is growing that I'm interested in. Plus, let's not forget that I have a mystery seed in the mix that could very well turn out to be my pride and joy.
The cheese candy has bounced by wonderfully! Did the HST (high-stress training) allow you to lower the LED? And I see the new/old Mars Hydro 100x3w has made its way in as well. So many lights and plenty of space; the tent configurations are swirling around in my head like mad. Here is my #1:
Oh, it's beautiful outside! I must go enjoy some outdoors stuff and fireworks later this evening. Happy 'Merica Day!
Before I go, try some of the Bubblelicious #1 that I just harvested---->
I don't think you guys understand how much I enjoy putting these daily updates together.
SweetSue,
I know I enjoy reading your journal entries immensely! I truly appreciate your descriptive language and your passion for communicating about your hobby, please keep it up! Thanks
JB
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SweetSue,
I know I enjoy reading your journal entries immensely! I truly appreciate your descriptive language and your passion for communicating about your hobby, please keep it up! Thanks
JB
Thank you JB. I'm so happy you enjoy it. I do love the little darlings, I'll give you that.
I'm not sure how I'm going to contain it when I have a full tent running. LOL!
When do they set pistils in that schedule, Cronic? I run about six plants in bloom, too, but I've been vegging to at least 60 days. From your POTM, it looks like you get pretty good yield with your schedule. Have you ever calculated grams per day? I used to track it for each harvest when I was trying to max out my room, and it ran from 0.3 to 0.8 grams/day, with most harvests in the half gram range. I got about an ounce per sqft in 120 days.
I keep wanting larger plants but I'm probably better off with small ones for my 6 gallon pots.
0.3-0.8 grams/day - per what? sq ft? plant?
at 1 oz (28 grams) per sq ft / 120 days that is about 0.23 grams / sq ft / day - which is easily 2.5x my first grow
re: "starting under 18/6 and diminishing to end up at 11/13..."
Unless you are commiting to batching your whole veg area at one time, I would not do any diminishing schedules.
I guess that goes without saying since I wouldn't do diminishing schedules anyway. There is no convincing evidence they work, they add complexity, and they can muck up your temperature. - A simple flip from 18/6 to 11/13 will send a clear signal that NOW is the time to flower. I suggest you keep it simple.
If you learn doing all the fancy stuff without doing only the basic stuff, it's really hard to know whether the fancy stuff is worth the time and trouble. K.I.S.
Unless you are commiting to batching your whole veg area at one time, I would not do any diminishing schedules.
I guess that goes without saying since I wouldn't do diminishing schedules anyway. There is no convincing evidence they work, they add complexity, and they can muck up your temperature. - A simple flip from 18/6 to 11/13 will send a clear signal that NOW is the time to flower. I suggest you keep it simple.
If you learn doing all the fancy stuff without doing only the basic stuff, it's really hard to know whether the fancy stuff is worth the time and trouble. K.I.S.
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Thank you Rad. I agree. Let's keep it simple.
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So, SweetSue and Rado, tell me about using an 11/13 vs a 12/12. Please. Sweetleef suggested it but we hadn't discussed why. I am curious! 
0.3-0.8 grams/day - per what? sq ft? plant?
at 1 oz (28 grams) per sq ft / 120 days that is about 0.2 grams / sq ft / day - which is easily 2.5x my first grow
Rado, Gray tracked that data relative to his own grows. It was not a dick-swinging fight over "what light I use" thing at all. His grow space was consistent and so was the lighting until... Well, never mind. It just makes things more complicated.
Grams per day were measured by the plant, not the space. "Pheno #2 of WillyWonka Kush gave me 73 grams of dried bud in 120 days for 0. 61 grams per day (GPD), but pheno #1 only gave me 54g in 128 days for .42 GPD. I like the pheno #1 more when I smoke it..."
The grow conditions were not completely constant. Still, it is a fascinating metric because GT did his best to note the possible confounding factors. He was digesting it all, and I was digesting part of it. Lots of folks might not have "clicked" to what was going on at all.
The GPD assessments GT made were both quantitative and qualitative. Really cool. Because he documents so well it was gold.
To reiterate, the conditions were fairly constant and when there were cofounders GT identified them through careful observation.
The goal is not weight per-day, or grams per-watt of whatever light you use. The goal is the volume of quality meds that really please you can grow per day. Quality is always a subjective measure. Anyone can say,"look at this I grew! It is the most bomber weed in the whole wide world!" Read way back and skip over all the "nice plants bro" posts. One of the most insightful and prudent progressions you will ever see on this site.
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So, SweetSue and Rado, tell me about using an 11/13 vs a 12/12. Please. Sweetleef suggested it but we hadn't discussed why. I am curious!
The 11/13 schedule is an attempt to mimic equatorial light conditions Magic. Turns out some interesting things happen, but what I'm most interested in is improved smell, taste and, ..... how can I describe it? Different expressions of the strain potential. If I'm understanding what Ziggy is experiencing without understanding the science behind it (hangs her head in shame), he's getting a different high from the harvest than he's seen or heard of compared to the more commonly chosen 12/12.
Grown under 11/13 from seed to harvest they finish faster too. The yield will be less because the plants will be smaller, but you can play with more.
I should study it more. It's one of those questions I'm going to be asked often and I really should be able to give a better answer than that.
Ok. I'm going back to Callanetics. Just getting ready for Abs. I'll be back thinner and flatter.
The 11/13 schedule is an attempt to mimic equatorial light conditions Magic. Turns out some interesting things happen, but what I'm most interested in is improved smell, taste and, ..... how can I describe it? Different expressions of the strain potential. If I'm understanding what Ziggy is experiencing without understanding the science behind it (hangs her head in shame), he's getting a different high from the harvest than he's seen or heard of compared to the more commonly chosen 12/12.
Grown under 11/13 from seed to harvest they finish faster too. The yield will be less because the plants will be smaller, but you can play with more.
I should study it more. It's one of those questions I'm going to be asked often and I really should be able to give a better answer than that.
Ok. I'm going back to Callanetics. Just getting ready for Abs. I'll be back thinner and flatter.
Light cycles (photoperiod) and light orientation can evoke different phenotypical expressions. For example, 18/6 to 12/12 seems to bring out Indica traits, while 16/8 to 11/13 (what I'm currently running) definitely brings out Sativa qualities in the plants.
Having the light directly overhead evokes Sativa traits, while having the plant off in the corner will bring more Indica traits.
Those of us geeks and connoisseur's have noticed that there can be some really interesting variety on the Sativa side of things which hasn't been covered as well in the last 20 years as the Indica side. So we're exploring the floral terps, the racy, upbeat aspects of the effect and all that is Sativa.
I'm sure the pendulum will swing back the other way in due time but it's high past time the majectic Sativa's like Colombian Gold, Mexican, Thai and Nepalese Sativa's are back in vogue as they are quite special and psychedelic compared to the narcotic Indica's.
Having a good supply of both is the goal!
Rado, Gray tracked that data relative to his own grows. It was not a dick-swinging fight over "what light I use" thing at all. His grow space was consistent and so was the lighting until... Well, never mind. It just makes things more complicated.
Grams per day were measured by the plant, not the space. "Pheno #2 of WillyWonka Kush gave me 73 grams of dried bud in 120 days for 0. 61 grams per day (GPD), but pheno #1 only gave me 54g in 128 days for .42 GPD. I like the pheno #1 more when I smoke it..."
The grow conditions were not completely constant. Still, it is a fascinating metric because GT did his best to note the possible confounding factors. He was digesting it all, and I was digesting part of it. Lots of folks might not have "clicked" to what was going on at all.
The GPD assessments GT made were both quantitative and qualitative. Really cool. Because he documents so well it was gold.
To reiterate, the conditions were fairly constant and when there were cofounders GT identified them through careful observation.
The goal is not weight per-day, or grams per-watt of whatever light you use. The goal is the volume of quality meds that really please you can grow per day. Quality is always a subjective measure. Anyone can say,"look at this I grew! It is the most bomber weed in the whole wide world!" Read way back and skip over all the "nice plants bro" posts. One of the most insightful and prudent progressions you will ever see on this site.
It's been a lomg tmie since i went dick swingin' with anyone. Sorry I gave that persception. I was just trying to absorb what GT was saying.
I love the way Gray grows consistent plants . Pesonally, I'm still at the "getting the plants happy enough to go into the flower room" stage.
I am posting this, because it's well worth reading twice. bump.
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Thank you gentlemen for so much thoughtful information. I'm definitely going back to read Graytail's first journal. I've neglected that too long now.
Doc, what can I say? Just what I needed and there you were. Again.
Back to the big finish. Almost done now. Doing Callanetics at night is a totally new experience. No distractions except the ones I choose and sweet breezes coming off the river wafting across the mat. I may try this again.
Somewhere along the line I need to fall into a rhythm of my own. It's still scatter-shot and ever-so-slightly manic. Hahaha! Dale's ringtone for our daughter was "Psycho Killer" and that's what just ran through my mind when I wrote that line. I'm not quite to the psychotic stage.. LOL!!!
Back to the mat!
Doc, what can I say? Just what I needed and there you were. Again.
Back to the big finish. Almost done now. Doing Callanetics at night is a totally new experience. No distractions except the ones I choose and sweet breezes coming off the river wafting across the mat. I may try this again.
Somewhere along the line I need to fall into a rhythm of my own. It's still scatter-shot and ever-so-slightly manic. Hahaha! Dale's ringtone for our daughter was "Psycho Killer" and that's what just ran through my mind when I wrote that line. I'm not quite to the psychotic stage.. LOL!!!
Back to the mat!
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Ahhhh! So much better. That pesky knot in my upper back is going to drive me out of my mind! For some reason my body decided to load all the stress onto that poor scapulae. This session helped somewhat, but....
Working in the dead of night gave me lots of quiet and I've worked out a couple ideas for the grow. I got absolutely nothing done today. I went to the store, so there's that. I actually purchased and prepared foodstuffs, so maybe, just maybe I'm beginning to settle a bit. Callanetics tends to help the wounded psyche heal more quickly, making it an excellent choice to conquer grief. Conquer's too heavy-handed, I'll go with counteract. I just want to get to the point where I don't break down in public anymore. Fall to pieces anytime when I'm home, but to find yourself crying again in the produce section... Once is enough.
Time for this girl to call it a night. Tomorrow the Tiny Closet makes a comeback!
Good night.
Working in the dead of night gave me lots of quiet and I've worked out a couple ideas for the grow. I got absolutely nothing done today. I went to the store, so there's that. I actually purchased and prepared foodstuffs, so maybe, just maybe I'm beginning to settle a bit. Callanetics tends to help the wounded psyche heal more quickly, making it an excellent choice to conquer grief. Conquer's too heavy-handed, I'll go with counteract. I just want to get to the point where I don't break down in public anymore. Fall to pieces anytime when I'm home, but to find yourself crying again in the produce section... Once is enough.
Time for this girl to call it a night. Tomorrow the Tiny Closet makes a comeback!
Good night.
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i am at that stage myself after all the mistakes i made i am surprised at the 2 plants i have gotten into the flower room.
0.3-0.8 grams/day - per what? sq ft? plant?
at 1 oz (28 grams) per sq ft / 120 days that is about 0.23 grams / sq ft / day - which is easily 2.5x my first grow
One ounce per square foot is easily doable, Rado.
DrZiggy just finished a bloom-from-seed grow and got close to 1.5 oz/sqft.
I think he harvested in the 80-90 day range.