The Joy Of Growing - SweetSue Goes Perpetual

Dale slipped back under, so let me take a moment to finally post this.

After I got home yesterday I tore apart that male plant to inspect the roots. This dismayed me.

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The roots grow to the hard side, run down to the bottom and swirl around in the drainage holes. This is so different from what fabric pots do that I decided right then and there to design and make my own fabric pots using Cannafan's tutorial thread as a guideline.

DIY fabric grow pots Cannabags made from Eco Felt

Making the pots by hand will give me a therapeutic past time to help myself heal emotionally too. I'll just start and keep on going until I have around 35 of them. One pot at a time. By the time I finish them it will be time to start the cycle again.

Sounds like a plan.
 
Graytail said:
But getting them into 7 gallon pots will be a plus all around. They'll hold more moisture and the plants will love the rootspace. I vote a separate pot for each plant.

:Namaste:
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Thanks for the input Graytail.

I decided on 10 gallons. I have the space and the soil. By next month I'll have more lighting. Ten gallon is where I wanted to be with big pots anyway.

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I should clarify that I have enough HB soil to put together a combination of 10 gal and 7 gal (thinking the African Buzz in 10 gallons). I can transplant the other LOS pot into a 10 gallon, which will make me very happy, and use that 7 gal and my other one that has one of my dead worm communities in it and there we go.
 
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Why not take this opportunity to bump the Cheese Candy into a 10 gallon too?
 
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Now you're cooking!
 
A thought about 10-gal pots, maybe only fill them 3/4 full.
You like to spin your girls 1/4 turn.
I have no problem carrying 2 5-gal buckets mostly full of water across my basement floor.
I have no problem turning 7-gal pots at slightly awkward angles.
I have strained my back a bit turning and stretching for 10-gal pots. (twice)

I am a 195 lb, 5'11" male who recently bench pressed 80 lb for 20 reps (Below my potential - It has been 40 years since I worked out - back then it was 110 lbs at 30 reps and I moved furniture for a living :) )
I suspect my back is stronger than yours, even though you are in trophy wife shape !


7 gallons of soil in a 10-gal pot will fit the HiBrix formulas with about the soil depth of a 10gal plastic pot.

If you fill those new pots, I suggest double checking that your back is a a good angle before lifting and twisting.
 
SweetSue said:
Oh yes it is. :laughtwo: This is some of the best herb I have ever smoked and I'm smoking it raw. I'll feel this buzz all the way into tomorrow, with sleep time in between.
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That's a bold statement there girl.
 
What BAR said^^^:high-five:
 
SweetSue said:
Dale slipped back under, so let me take a moment to finally post this.

After I got home yesterday I tore apart that male plant to inspect the roots. This dismayed me.

image27168.jpg


image27165.jpg


image27166.jpg


The roots grow to the hard side, run down to the bottom and swirl around in the drainage holes. This is so different from what fabric pots do that I decided right then and there to design and make my own fabric pots using Cannafan's tutorial thread as a guideline.

DIY fabric grow pots Cannabags made from Eco Felt

Making the pots by hand will give me a therapeutic past time to help myself heal emotionally too. I'll just start and keep on going until I have around 35 of them. One pot at a time. By the time I finish them it will be time to start the cycle again.

Sounds like a plan.
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Thanks for the great pics! This is a prime example why its so important to upsize your plastic pots weekly and not plant into a big pot to start with. This is a great example for those that want to grow Capt'n style with grow cubes. And also a great example why we like air pruning pots for soil!
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10 gallon pots are going to be great!!!! How often do you estimate having to water those? Keep up the great work!
 
Radogast said:
A thought about 10-gal pots, maybe only fill them 3/4 full.
You like to spin your girls 1/4 turn.
I have no problem carrying 2 5-gal buckets mostly full of water across my basement floor.
I have no problem turning 7-gal pots at slightly awkward angles.
I have strained my back a bit turning and stretching for 10-gal pots. (twice)

I am a 195 lb, 5'11" male who recently bench pressed 80 lb for 20 reps (Below my potential - It has been 40 years since I worked out - back then it was 110 lbs at 30 reps and I moved furniture for a living :) )
I suspect my back is stronger than yours, even though you are in trophy wife shape !


7 gallons of soil in a 10-gal pot will fit the HiBrix formulas with about the soil depth of a 10gal plastic pot.

If you fill those new pots, I suggest double checking that your back is a a good angle before lifting and twisting.
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I hear you Rad. The HB kit soil is not as dense or heavy as the LOS, so I don't anticipate them being such a problem, even with full-grown plants. I'll begin by testing a full pot and getting some feel for what I might be up against.

I'm a 180 pound, 5'6", 61 yr-old woman 2 years into a consistent Callanetics program, which means I have a core muscular system that would surprise you Rad. It's also a program particularly focused on an intense melding of mind and body, heavy on proper body mechanics. The muscular body suit that lies beneath my skin and remaining body fat is a thing of wonder and controlled power. Callanetics should not be underestimated. It was actually designed by a woman whose goal was to strengthen her own ailing back and the abs and back are some of the first areas to benefit from consistent practice. I promise I'll be cautious as I learn how to move these pots around. :battingeyelashes:

It's sweet of you to remind me of this. :Love: I actually hadn't thought of it before now. I could always fill them part way and roll the edges down. The pots are so adaptable. Obviously the gardener has had to learn to be flexible. Yet again redesigning the grow. Whew!
 
B A R said:
That's a bold statement there girl.
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And yet, once again I woke up still nicely buzzed from the night before and still feeling it four hours after getting up. I can't explain it BAR, I just report it.

I ordered another seed. The next plant should be better than this one, regardless of the soil I choose to plant it in.
 
I'm buzzing right along here on Dark Devil baked buds. Every time I do this part of me expects nothing to happen. Damn, am I buzzed right now. :laughtwo: Typing at top speed and feeling clear-headed and upbeat. I love baked buds. They're like no other high.
 
HunterNitro said:
Thanks for the great pics! This is a prime example why its so important to upsize your plastic pots weekly and not plant into a big pot to start with. This is a great example for those that want to grow Capt'n style with grow cubes. And also a great example why we like air pruning pots for soil!
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10 gallon pots are going to be great!!!! How often do you estimate having to water those? Keep up the great work!
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Well, you made me really glad I posted those HunterNitro. I have no idea how often they'll need watered, but I'll likely be sitting them on some type of SWICK to assure their survival. They're into the flowering cycle at that point anyway, which is when the SWICK is most effective with the kit soil.
 
Sue...go check out Scrubb's. thread will ya...wanna smile alot?:thumb:
 
HunterNitro said:
Thanks for the great pics! This is a prime example why its so important to upsize your plastic pots weekly and not plant into a big pot to start with. This is a great example for those that want to grow Capt'n style with grow cubes. And also a great example why we like air pruning pots for soil!
:thumb:

10 gallon pots are going to be great!!!! How often do you estimate having to water those? Keep up the great work!
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I gotta step in here:

1. Those roots are hydro roots! They shouldn't look like that. They are a result of the SWICK. You want fine root hairs and you'll get them if you take them off the SWICK in veg and do the wet/dry thing.

2. It has nothing to do with plastic/fabric pots. I use plastic pots as do many others and our roots look nothing like that.

I do not recommend the SWICK in veg....but in Sue's circumstances it made the most sense.
 
SweetSue said:
Well, you made me really glad I posted those HunterNitro. I have no idea how often they'll need watered, but I'll likely be sitting them on some type of SWICK to assure their survival. They're into the flowering cycle at that point anyway, which is when the SWICK is most effective with the kit soil.
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See my post directly above this one.

Don't worry about it or beat yourself up over it. There literally was no other way, given your circumstances. Do the wet/dry thing for a week. Then do it for 2 weeks in the larger pots and you'll be 100% OK.

It's still gonna work out. The alternative to doing what you have been doing would not have worked due to your schedule and the fact that there are far more important matters to attend to.

You literally did the very best you could do. They're still alive and they'll still pay you back. Next time you're gonna absolutely amaze yourself.

recap, lessons learned:

1. wet/dry to grow roots
2. no SWICK in veg
3. Watch carefully with strong magnifying glass for male flowers

Now you're cultivating! Congrats.
 
I hear you Doc. Thanks.
 
That is an interesting observation Doc has made...SWICK is undoubtedly a convenient method, but its effect on root growth may not be desirable? Or at the very least produces different results than that of plants which actively searched for water in the depths of the soil.

I had never thought of that. One more thing to consider! ;)
 
Doc Bud said:
I gotta step in here:

1. Those roots are hydro roots! They shouldn't look like that. They are a result of the SWICK. You want fine root hairs and you'll get them if you take them off the SWICK in veg and do the wet/dry thing.

2. It has nothing to do with plastic/fabric pots. I use plastic pots as do many others and our roots look nothing like that.

I do not recommend the SWICK in veg....but in Sue's circumstances it made the most sense.
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I don't understand what your argument is as i thought plastic pots had this known issue? Ive read it a few times before.

1. Those roots are soil roots not hydro or did i miss something here? You are saying her watering method makes them hydro roots? If you plant in soil or hydro medium the same effect happens. GTJ proved that already with his grow cubes and getting a more solid root mass by up-potting more often.

2. If you grow in a plastic pot the roots will do exactly what sue's has done here if the pot is to big. They will grow to the sides, then down the sides, and accumulate at the bottom of the pot if your pot is to big. If you start with a small plastic pot and work your pot size up every week you will not have this issue as the root ball will be solid. If the pots to big the roots will not spread out just as sue has showed us in the pictures. I have had the exact same issue with planting in to big of a plastic pot to start with and not working to root mass up. Its not just her watering method that has caused this.... If you plant in a big plastic container instead of working your way up, and break down the root mass it will look just like this.

If the plant is grown in a fabric pot the roots air prune just like the pot is designed to do and they wont run straight down the the bottom. I thought this was a known issue with plastic pots thats why most use fabric pots on soil grows now? Like i said this is a good example for when someone wants to do capt'n style because you utilize plastic pots all the way till flower. If you work your pot size up you will have a more solid root mass.

Anyone have any test date or something that we can compare to that proves each theory? Im curious to know because if there is no benefit from building root masses then why do we transplant? I love talks like this! Lets get to the bottom of it! Whatcha got Doc?
 
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