The Joy Of Growing - SweetSue Goes Perpetual

[MagicJim]

My guess would be fungus infection but it's just a guess.

 

[Llama]

Sue, I have never seen that before and I cannot find those symptoms anywhere! Keep documenting everything you can on this girl as you have something nobody has seen before. If it were me, I would trim the dead stuff off. If it continues to spread I'd cull it to eliminate the possibility it might be contagious.

 

[SweetSue]

JAMAICAN DREAM QUARANTINED

She has her own space, her own lights (I have up to 200 Watts of CFLs I can throw around her) and her own timer. She's trimmed of the offending branches and had her recharge and an Energy drench to wash it in. Let's see what she can pull off in a month's time.

Thank you gentlemen, for your prompt reply to my call for help. Community gardening at its best.

 

[Robert Celt]

I forgot to mention earlier Sue, but when you come across something like that again (hopefully its a one off event) spray the affected area with peroxide. Won't hurt the plant but will kill any fungus spores that may be present.

 

[SweetSue]

Wow Sue I have never seen that before. If I saw that on a plant I would cut below the wounds, wear gloves, bag them immediately and throw it away without hesitation. Ugh...the dreaded "pink stem"!

I just wouldn't want it to spread. Thought I had seen it all. The xylem and phloem in those branches cant be functioning well. Better to save the rest of the plant and get rid of those branches.

My guess would be fungal. any possiblilty of overly wet roots?

I was shocked to see this on a Kit plant. This is not what we expect at all. I know for sure it isn't overly wet roots. This one went two weeks between drenches and I didn't overload her with the last one. I'm certain of that.

That is infection, if Im not mistaken. It is weird that it has appeared in those three branches. Did you have problems with bugs previously? Maybe the branches got damaged somehow and caught the infection. That is something you dont see everyday!

The bugs I had were fungus gnats, but they're long gone. It could be that when I stripped her before flipping she picked something up, but again, Kit plant, super healthy.

The only thing I have run across so far that does that is powdery mildew, but it was on my outside girls. It kills the tissue in the stem.

Did you ever notice any white powder looking stuff on them?

That was the first thing to run through my mind, and it made my blood freeze for a moment, so I looked everything over very carefully, and absolutely no signs of any mildew.

Good morning Sue,
Now that you have photo documentation to ask what is it, Those 3 branches need to go bye-bye before it has a chance to spread to the main trunk, if it already hasn't. As for what is it? Well smarter growers then me will have to answer that one for you, but if it was me, I would be cutting her back as close to the trunk as I could to avoid any chance of it spreading to the main trunk. Then I would quarantine her as best as possible for a few days and check her and any other plants which were near her for more signs. While it is great to be able to say, yep thats what it is , for a fact it is XYZ, if you just can't diagnose it, quarantine it so it does not have a chance to spread. Better safe and loose a plant then wrong and loose a crop.

Hope it all goes well other then that

Oh and by the way, consider me Subbed. I am always so late getting subbed. To be honest I am surprised I was not the last to be subbed to my own Journal

And may I offer you a hearty welcome to my happy little corner of our virtual world oldergrower. There's really no such thing as late on one of my journals. We just keep on going from one journal to the next, and as you can see from the number of pages, there are many of us and we talk a lot. make yourself comfortable. After all the excitement with my baby I need a smoke break.

Pass to the left. Jim will take it from you and pass it on.

My guess would be fungus infection but it's just a guess.

I fear you may be right Jim, and rather than risk further degradation of the harvest she will finish alone.

Sue, I have never seen that before and I cannot find those symptoms anywhere! Keep documenting everything you can on this girl as you have something nobody has seen before. If it were me, I would trim the dead stuff off. If it continues to spread I'd cull it to eliminate the possibility it might be contagious.

Heard and responded to Llama. I felt it was best to get her away from everyone else immediately. Weird that even you haven't seen anything like this. There must be a diagnostics thread that I could post this on. Surely someone will recognize it. I'll look and see if there is such a thread.

 

[SweetSue]

MEDS

I grow to keep myself sane. It calms my spirit and rejuvenates my soul. It also supplies me with top-quality meds to bake into my brownies, my favorite method of consuming cannabis. I like the brownies for a number of reasons, among them;

- Chocolate is brain food for women. Ask any woman. She'll back me up.
- I can eat one first thing in the morning and it carries me for over eight hours.
- I can include plant material in the brownies and the cake covers the flavor and texture of that plant material better than just about anything else. I have a suspicion that eating the plant material is having more benefit than just using cannabutter. I have no science to back that suspicion up, but it's a strong instinctive sense that's never led me astray before.

This batch took almost everything I had dried. I cut off a small piece of both the Critical Super Silver Haze and the Excalibur to test tonight and everything else got decarbed for the brownies.

Now I have brownies for at least four days.....

..... and a little something for tonight and possibly tomorrow as well.

The piece in the upper left is Excalibur, the upper right is CSSH and the lower right is what's left of the AJHxAA that I pulled out this morning. I have one more piece of her set aside.

I'm just keeping up at this point. Something has to come down tomorrow. I'll think on that tonight. I took a close look at the White Widow and she's turning amber, so it might be her.

Now, where's that pipe..... There it is!

 

[Heirloom]

I'll smoke to that....

 

[MagicJim]

For the second most important disease, Termorshuizen (1991) lists hemp canker. This diease is caused by Sclerotinia sclerotiorum. The fungus primarily attacks fiber cultivars in Europe, but it has caused up to 40% losses in North America (Hockey 1927) and damaged hemp in Australia (Synnott 1941) and Tasmania (Lisson & Mendham 1995). Hemp canker has also appeared on drug cultivars in India (Bilgrami et al. 1981). Symptoms begin as watersoaked lesions on stems and branches of plants nearing maturity. The lesions collapse into cankers and become darkly discolored. Affected areas take on a shredded appearance and the pith becomes filled with a white cottony mycelium. Plants remain in this condition or wilt and fall over. By September large black sclerotia develop on the stem surface or within pith of dead stalks.

From an article "A review of Cannabis diseases"

J. M. McPartland

You guys can probably find the article with a Google search if interested. I'm not saying this is the cause. It's just the closest I've come across so far.

 

[OlderGrower]

Thank you Sue for that warm welcome,

I saw the pics of the ends of the branches you cut off but I am old and the ole eyes just are not what they use to be. Were you able to tell if there was any signs of cellular damage inside the stem where you cut? Probably not if you used scissors or shears. You might be able to go back with a straight razor and cut slightly back from your cut on the discarded branches and get a better look.

By the way, those brownies look simply yummy. Can not wait till I can partake, I will be hitting you up for your recipe

 

[SweetSue]

For the second most important disease, Termorshuizen (1991) lists hemp canker. This diease is caused by Sclerotinia sclerotiorum. The fungus primarily attacks fiber cultivars in Europe, but it has caused up to 40% losses in North America (Hockey 1927) and damaged hemp in Australia (Synnott 1941) and Tasmania (Lisson & Mendham 1995). Hemp canker has also appeared on drug cultivars in India (Bilgrami et al. 1981). Symptoms begin as watersoaked lesions on stems and branches of plants nearing maturity. The lesions collapse into cankers and become darkly discolored. Affected areas take on a shredded appearance and the pith becomes filled with a white cottony mycelium. Plants remain in this condition or wilt and fall over. By September large black sclerotia develop on the stem surface or within pith of dead stalks.

From an article "A review of Cannabis diseases"

J. M. McPartland

You guys can probably find the article with a Google search if interested. I'm not saying this is the cause. It's just the closest I've come across so far.

It's curious, but there aren't any "sores" one would expect with an infection. It's as though these branches just collapsed into themselves. Let me pull them out of the trash and cut them open to see if there's anything relevant inside.

 

[OlderGrower]

It's curious, but there aren't any "sores" one would expect with an infection. It's as though these branches just collapsed into themselves. Let me pull them out of the trash and cut them open to see if there's anything relevant inside.

Oh god please do it away from the grow and wash thoroughly when done. I would hate to be the reason you infected your grow to satisfy my bum eyes

 

[B A R]

Good evening all. Let's talk yogurt.

Lactobacillis serum? Can't you just feed it a little yoghurt?

No-one ever responded & Pita, what made you bring this up? I love ideas outside the box.

 

[Major PITA]

Good evening all. Let's talk yogurt.






No-one ever responded & Pita, what made you bring this up? I love ideas outside the box.

Only because that is one of the beneficial bacteria found in live-culture yoghurt.

 

[OlderGrower]

ok I ill bite,
so just how would one get those beneficial bacteria out of said yogurt and into said plant?

 

[SweetSue]

From left to right.

They just died off for no apparent reason. Healthy above and below the necrotic points.

 

[SweetSue]

Dark Devil Auto (Day 56)

She got her Recharge topdressing today and it was washed in with her Energy drench. The colors were breathtaking.

 

[ShiggityFlip]

Any possibility they were against something hot and got cooked? I say that because they are all exactly the same level and heat could definitely kill cells locally like that. Looking at the inside of the stems it doesn't seem to be infection. They look like they were dried out not soft. It looks like you could put a straight line across all of the wounds. I can't believe it's a coincidence!

 

[B A R]

Is it too late (limp, drying out) to try and get some roots on the bottom of those branches up above the unhealthy parts?

 

[kelticBlue]

Good evening all. Let's talk yogurt.


No-one ever responded & Pita, what made you bring this up? I love ideas outside the box.

hey all, I was reading through the comments on the unconventional farmer and I didn't see any reference to yogurt however I saw this and thought it applied.

"Focus on the principles at work, and then there are all kinds ways you can tweak these recipes. In the case of the rice wash, the idea is that the liquid is full of dissolved carbohydrates, that attract microbes from the air and environment. These multiply and fermentation occurs. Then you inundate with lactose (milk) to select for lactobacillus, which is present along with lots of other microbes."

I would think any source of lactose would work. I see powdered milk mentioned. I believe Cy does LAB as well, he may know more.

Great job isolating the JD Sue.

 

[Major PITA]

ok I ill bite,
so just how would one get those beneficial bacteria out of said yogurt and into said plant?

Just add water. It makes its own sauce.