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how many there were in a little over three weeks and only fed water.
So no additional nutes? Amazing growth. I up-potted my Paremesan auto earlier tonight because her roots were growing into the perlite. I didn't take any pics because I wanted the process to be as seamless and painless as possible. She is two weeks old and only fed water and I was impressed with her roots too. Yours was a clone and mine is a seedling but both loving the SWICK life.
 
I was fascinated by the SIP thread which referenced this thread along the way.
Since I had just started another auto my usual way - 3 gallon cloth pot with coco/perlite & amendments and normally top fed, I decided switching it to a Swick would be easier than a SIP.

Preferring to use items I already own whenever possible, I took a 10 gallon bucket and cut about 4" off the bottom to use as the reservoir for water, filled it with washed 1/2" and smaller lava rock, piled an inch or so of coco from a previous grow on to one side creating a mound higher than the reservoir and large enough to set the 3 gallon cloth pot onto while keeping it out of the water.
Next, I made up 2 gallons of nute rich water (EC at 1.1 and pH 6.2) in a 5 gallon bucket and lowered the 3 gallon pot into it. The auto was started in this container and already had 2 nodes by gently top watering.
This pot absorbed about 1.5 gallons and still kept the top half inch dry. I could tell it was soaked because the coco around the stalk where I had been watering was wicking and now super wet.
Pulling this out of the bucket and placing it on its new throne to drain worked great and then poured the remainder into the lava rock reservoir.
3 days later and that moist ring around the stalk still remains moist with the rest of the top layer dry and the sides of the cloth pot cool and moist, so I am calling this a wicking success as I watch the water level in the reservoir slowly drop. I hadn't seen one done like this yet but I assume this should be labeled a Swick. :cool:

Two things have come to mind now:
1) If it gets in trouble and needs flushing or has a nute deficiency, I can easily correct that by dropping the soft pot into a 5 gallon bucket of whatever it needs for a few minutes.
2) I am concerned with the pH in the reservoir not staying at the low 6 area. In a day or so it tends to rise back up to the original 8.3 of my dechlorinated tap water. Wondering if I should be concerned about that or not?

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IDK if you got any feedback on your pH concerns, but you don't have to be concerned if that's Promix or SunSHine Mix #4 or other peat/perlite mix as the media is what really mediates the pH. The commercial peat products all do a good job of it IME. My tap is 7pH but I fertigate and my nutes can push pH around but the media manages it well. If it's unprocessed coco you might topdress with some gypsum or limestone... @InTheShed , whaddya think?
 
Hiya Carmen, and Swickers. Thought I’d drop my SWICK germination-station on y’all after seeing Carmen’s. Drain hole is an inch below the perlite level - which I just realized you can’t even see in the pics… hmmmm well, just imagine the tub half full of perlite lol. D’oh!
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Hiya Carmen, and Swickers. Thought I’d drop my SWICK germination-station on y’all after seeing Carmen’s. Drain hole is an inch below the perlite level - which I just realized you can’t even see in the pics… hmmmm well, just imagine the tub half full of perlite lol. D’oh!
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I'm glad to see that some of the veteran swickers are germinating on swick. It makes so much more sense to do it this way I feel. Neat set up RD! What is that fancy looking light you're using?
 
IDK if you got any feedback on your pH concerns, but you don't have to be concerned if that's Promix or SunSHine Mix #4 or other peat/perlite mix as the media is what really mediates the pH. The commercial peat products all do a good job of it IME. My tap is 7pH but I fertigate and my nutes can push pH around but the media manages it well. If it's unprocessed coco you might topdress with some gypsum or limestone... @InTheShed , whaddya think?
Coco is inert and without buffers like promix/sunshine or soil, so I would think that the water would need to be 5.8 pH like top watered coco.

That said, the only bottom watered coco grow I followed was unsuccessful and needed to be too watered to get a successful harvest.
 
here is a pic of the pot I did two "well" dressings with the nutes, it's easy to spot them.

edit: sorry wrong thread. Fukn weed making me stupid. This is referring to a post in the Geoflora thread, but still interesting

 
I'm glad to see that some of the veteran swickers are germinating on swick. It makes so much more sense to do it this way I feel. Neat set up RD! What is that fancy looking light you're using?
I have two different versions of these cheap (under 20$ CAD), articulating LED lights, and have vegged/flowered in mini-SIPs under them to a surprisingly powerful effect. The one in pic is plain white with diffusers, good for germ'ing, but I also have some that are specifically grow lights (they germ fine too). See the link for the grow-specific ones:


I love 'em. They will screw into a light bulb socket and even come with Int'l adapter for socket types used abroad. I buy these thingies (link below) and convert my shorter extension cords into portable, easy-to-handle, very inexpensive, side lights/ supplementary lights:


Been using for two years, steadily but not constantly, and they are all holding up. Indoor or greenhouse use only, they're somewhat delicate, but for price cant be beat. Will veg and flower a mini SIP, swick, solo cup, w.h.y.
 
I have two different versions of these cheap (under 20$ CAD), articulating LED lights, and have vegged/flowered in mini-SIPs under them to a surprisingly powerful effect. The one in pic is plain white with diffusers, good for germ'ing, but I also have some that are specifically grow lights (they germ fine too). See the link for the grow-specific ones:


I love 'em. They will screw into a light bulb socket and even come with Int'l adapter for socket types used abroad. I buy these thingies (link below) and convert my shorter extension cords into portable, easy-to-handle, very inexpensive, side lights/ supplementary lights:


Been using for two years, steadily but not constantly, and they are all holding up. Indoor or greenhouse use only, they're somewhat delicate, but for price cant be beat. Will veg and flower a mini SIP, swick, solo cup, w.h.y.
Thank you RD. I like that they can screw into a light socket and that they are foldable. Thank you for the links.
 
Hello SWICKers, please can I ask you for your thoughts. My two autos are presenting with different looking leaf issues. The plants haven't looked droopy at all so I haven't considered them over watered. However if I look at these leaves I wonder what can be the cause and how I can change things for the better.

I have used my LOS previously. It is a premixed craft soil which is hot. I mixed a 50 % seedling mix to get the plants started but now their roots will have reached beyond that safety and they are now in the main soil. I have previously had issues not dissimilar to this and couldn't work out the problem. In previous grows I have given calmag which seemed to help. It's a water only soil and I have been using rain water.

I have stuck a wooden skewer into the soil and it comes out damp with soil stuck to it on the bottom 2/3rds of the stick and the top third is dryer with no soil stuck to the stick.





 
here is a pic of the pot I did two "well" dressings with the nutes, it's easy to spot them.

edit: sorry wrong thread. Fukn weed making me stupid. This is referring to a post in the Geoflora thread, but still interesting

This the geoflora nutes ? There a mix of bone feather alfalfa meals arnt they ..are they a liquid feed or just a dry mix ?
I wonder as where I am I have to build my feeds and the geo range looks awesome and you guys talk about it it seems like a gia green mix kinda stuff ? Just can’t see any meals where thrum roots are lol
 
Hello SWICKers, please can I ask you for your thoughts. My two autos are presenting with different looking leaf issues. The plants haven't looked droopy at all so I haven't considered them over watered. However if I look at these leaves I wonder what can be the cause and how I can change things for the better.

I have used my LOS previously. It is a premixed craft soil which is hot. I mixed a 50 % seedling mix to get the plants started but now their roots will have reached beyond that safety and they are now in the main soil. I have previously had issues not dissimilar to this and couldn't work out the problem. In previous grows I have given calmag which seemed to help. It's a water only soil and I have been using rain water.

I have stuck a wooden skewer into the soil and it comes out damp with soil stuck to it on the bottom 2/3rds of the stick and the top third is dryer with no soil stuck to the stick.
If it's happening on both it seems soil related, and if it's happened before with this soil then it's definitely soil related! Doesn't look like a calcium deficiency, but if it starts with yellowing veins before it goes burned it could be a magnesium deficiency. A little epsom salts in the next water might help if that's what it is.
 
If it's happening on both it seems soil related, and if it's happened before with this soil then it's definitely soil related! Doesn't look like a calcium deficiency, but if it starts with yellowing veins before it goes burned it could be a magnesium deficiency. A little epsom salts in the next water might help if that's what it is.
Thanks Shed, I didn't think it was a watering issue but wanted to check in here to rule it out. It must be the soil. Why Epsom salts rather than calmag? Also, how much Epsom salts to a liter of water please?
 
Cal-mag is only a thing because that's how they sell it. No reason to give a plant calcium if it's just lacking magnesium.

In terms of how much, that's hard to say in a water only grow. Do you have a scale that measures tenths of a gram?
Ok thanks. I have baking spoons and one is 1mg.
 
For 1L of water, to have as much magnesium as I would use in full veg it would take 0.3g of Epsom salt.

1 tsp tends to = 5g but epsom salt might be different.

Just checked, epsom salt weighs 8.28g per teaspoon.

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Thank you Shed. Is that 300mg of salts to the liter? It'll dilute somewhat when I add the premixed water to the res water. Will that be ok?
 
This the geoflora nutes ? There a mix of bone feather alfalfa meals arnt they ..are they a liquid feed or just a dry mix ?
I wonder as where I am I have to build my feeds and the geo range looks awesome and you guys talk about it it seems like a gia green mix kinda stuff ? Just can’t see any meals where thrum roots are lol
No @Pondwater I used some Root's Terp Tea Bloom. EDIT: {I also used some DrEarth T&V}
I would normally brew it as a tea but I wanted to do a little experiment. After harvest I will dig in and see how many roots went to the well.
I asked about the well method instead of top dressing over at the Geoflora thread since I will be using it on the up coming grow. It's a granular top dress nutrient.
 
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