Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG

[lexort420]

Found a little bonus at the Home Depot today...

Nice to get a big huge bag for a change.... plus 0 NPK values.

Note the words on the back of the bag about cloning....

Ha that's the same perlite i have lol

 

[Tead]

Still no sign of mites on ANY plants. I am astounded!

I'm a touch astounded as well. While I give the medium credit for blocking bug development, I'm surprised at the impact you've been witnessing.
Fun!

 

[Tead]

Ha that's the same perlite i have lol

I'm diggin it. It's just slightly courser than the MG variety, has no balls of fertilizer in it, has no chunks of wood in it, and comes in a much better size.
I hadn't been thru the H.D. garden department in a month or two and I was super happy to see it. Almost grabbed 2 of them.

 

[lexort420]

Ya i had read way back before you convinced me to go hempy that unless you wanna try and wash away the ferts in mg perlite best to stay away from it lol. I wasn't super sure if it was considered course or not lol wasn't sure what the difference was lol.

 

[Tead]

Yea... the MG stuff is pretty fine grained. I'm happy to find some a touch larger.
The balls in the MG perlite are fairly rare, and their NPK numbers are way low... so I never let it bother me, but I am still happy to find something better that I can easily pick up locally.

 

[lexort420]

That bag should last a little bit lol i bought mine last summer i think and i got roughly 1/4 of the bag left give or take. See whenever someone said course perlite i was thinking like the size of a quarter and i never could find any that size lol

 

[Tead]

I love bugs. Always have. Always will. Love the vans even more.
Of course, they've never been a popular rig down here. The lack of AC is a significant issue.
Nice to see one this morning on my route. It even had old school(ish) Oregon plates... just a nice touch of love for a displaced Oregonian.

 

[lexort420]

ya know i use to not like bugs however about 8 years ago i survived a multiple roll crash in one and it blew my mind that my friend and i hadn't been crushed to death. So now i have respect for the bug lol.

 

[Tead]

I developed the love for a similar reason.
Grew up in farmland. Had a neighbor that had a bug he use for moving things around his farm... mostly hogs. He had the back seats removed and would ferry the hogs as needed in the back his bug. His sons and I had a great time cruising that rig all over the farm and various back roads. Rolled it a few times. Got it stuck many times. Damn things are so light we could roll them back or pick them out of a ditch quite easily.

 

[santb]

G'day, Tead... Been reading a bit about hempy on various threads and ended up here.. Hope you don't mind me jumping in...!
Seems we're of the same mold; I'm quite lazy myself and hempy appeals to me for it's total ease... But I admit to being a bit shy of "chemical" nutes... I'm sure you've been asked this 1000 times; I guess it was Sues first question.. The fact that she is going down the bottled-nute road tells me something already.. I'm wondering why you can't do this with teas and regular type liquid ferts..? No-one really seems to do "organic" hempies... Maybe one or two across the interwebs..
I don't mean to be rude; if you can refer me to a page or section, I'll read it! I just got here after looking up 'hempy' all afternoon....
Cheers!

 

[Tead]

Hope you don't mind me jumping in...!

Not one little bit. Welcome along.

I'm wondering why you can't do this with teas and regular type liquid ferts..?

Me too! You should dip your toes into a hempy bucket and let us know how it works.
Trying to concoct some home brew with all the nutrients I need seems to be a bit too much work for a lazy farmer, so I go with the bottled variety, but my mind sure is open to the idea. A search for "DIY hydroponics nutrients" would seem to be a good starting point.
Over the years, I have seen plenty of different nutrient systems. Baby formula and human urine are the two most notably unusual ones I've seen.
I've been having great success using Osmocote+ in my hempy buckets. If you're searching for a lazy way to grow hydroponics, I'd be hard pressed to find a method any lazier.

Actually enjoying an Archer re-run as I write this. It's the lame Whales romantic getaway episode... but it does feature Lana in lingerie!

Hail Bloody Mary, full of vodka,
Blessed art Thou amongst cocktails.
Pray for me now, and in the hour of my death—
Which I hope is soon—
Amen.

 

[santb]

Cheers, Tead. I did a bit of looking into homemade nutes; The easiest and seemingly most effective I found on of Emilyas threads:
Emmie's Backyard Fermented Plant Extracts from Dandelions!

Pretty straight forward and promising. I figure you could use any vigorous flowering plant.. I thinking about impatiens as they are very easy to grow and come in many different varieties. Still a bit of work but probably easy enough.. She seems to think that traditional "organic" or natural nutes might be too thick and gluggy, then start rotting. I can see the point, especially in the res.. I think finely straining teas etc would be too time consuming, not too mention counter-productive in my mind so still searching for the ultimate lazy-gardeners dream style!
I will definitely give hempy a go, though. I'll have to pick up some nutes. And some perlite.
Have you ever mixed coco or peat with perlite for hempy? I likes me coco..

Archer; what can I say. Love it. The perfect character.. And luckily, Lana is frequently in lingerie...
Yes, ladies, we know she's only a cartoon character... Still.... A man is not made of stone...

EDIT I forgot to ask about the milk... I've heard of baby powder, I think, around here but milk? Sounds strange! Doesn't it go bad? I guess you wouldn't use it if it doesn't work but how does the fat react in the soil...?
Interesting...

 

[lexort420]

hey tead would organics even work? I thought organics needed soil to support (is it bacteria or microbes?) in order to work? See that is how unfamiliar i am with organics its foreign to me lol.

 

[Tead]

I will definitely give hempy a go, though. I'll have to pick up some nutes. And some perlite.
Have you ever mixed coco or peat with perlite for hempy? I likes me coco..

Many folks grow hempy buckets with coco. I've not used it, but I know many do. I know that PHing can be a touch different in coco. Coco might be a good choice for a DIY organic tea option... I would see it as better supporting various microbial growth perhaps.
I don't use it because of local heat issues... I need to avoid anything growing down below at all times, so I stay with jus

I forgot to ask about the milk... I've heard of baby powder, I think, around here but milk? Sounds strange! Doesn't it go bad? I guess you wouldn't use it if it doesn't work but how does the fat react in the soil...?
Interesting...

I'm not so worried about the fat content. I use it for it's calcium content alone. It doesn't get bad over my 3 day watering cycles, but I left a pot for weeks once and it stank hard. Plus, I'm only using 2tsp/gallon, so it's really not much.
Having said all that, I've recently moved back to a more traditional CalMag supplement... it's just easier.

would organics even work? I thought organics needed soil to support (is it bacteria or microbes?) in order to work? See that is how unfamiliar i am with organics its foreign to me lol.

Good point. Beats me. My only experience in the arena is simply burying various chopped plant material in my dirt.
Perhaps coco could support such activity. It doesn't seem like perl or verm would be a place that would support any microbial growth.
You should give it a try next time you're feeling the experimental bug.

 

[SweetSue]

G'day, Tead... Been reading a bit about hempy on various threads and ended up here.. Hope you don't mind me jumping in...!
Seems we're of the same mold; I'm quite lazy myself and hempy appeals to me for it's total ease... But I admit to being a bit shy of "chemical" nutes... I'm sure you've been asked this 1000 times; I guess it was Sues first question.. The fact that she is going down the bottled-nute road tells me something already.. I'm wondering why you can't do this with teas and regular type liquid ferts..? No-one really seems to do "organic" hempies... Maybe one or two across the interwebs..
I don't mean to be rude; if you can refer me to a page or section, I'll read it! I just got here after looking up 'hempy' all afternoon....
Cheers!

I'd have to agree with Tead here. Perlite is not the place for organics. There's no place for the micro herd to establish themselves. I have homemade fermented plant nutrients but they'd be wasted here. The bottled nutes are as close to organic as my hempies will see.

 

[Weaselcracker]

As most of you probably know there is a growing style called 'Cap'n style'. It uses rockwool as a medium and uses beneficial bacterial/fungal teas as a sort of root drench. I don't know how, or how long, the beneficials live in the rockwool for, but it's definitely a very effective way of growing and the teas are an important part of the method. Maybe rockwool is a more hospitable place for the micro herd to live, I'm not sure. Worth playing around with though.
Occurs to me now that we've had this conversation before in this thread...

 

[lexort420]

I'd have to agree with Tead here. Perlite is not the place for organics. There's no place for the micro herd to establish themselves. I have homemade fermented plant nutrients but they'd be wasted here. The bottled nutes are as close to organic as my hempies will see.

Thats kinda what I was thinking since perlite is inert there wouldn't be the symbiotic relationship that soil provides. I do wonder if something like General Organics would work in a hempy it doesn't really sound like true organics but once again that is a bit out of my league.

 

[Tead]

Occurs to me now that we've had this conversation before in this thread...

tee hee.

 

[santb]

Occurs to me now that we've had this conversation before in this thread...

tee hee.

I know sorry guys... It's just I had all these ideas and needed to know NOW!! I do usually read before I jump in but I was on a roll yesterday and have already decided to experiment a bit next round..
Cheers!

 

[Tead]

No worries. I never read back. You're not offending anyone at all. We just had to register the fun.
Wait 'til I get started on food. Hmmm..... I think I have some ribs that need smokin.