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I considered glue. I'd rather it take care of itself. Gotta clean it out man.... get any dirt out... ugly but required.
Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG
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Geez Tead...... Ouch!!! In what universe was this necessary?
You don't have any CCO on hand and you live too far from me. You also don't have any topicals on hand, do you? Crap! At least you have decent meds to counter the pain. Super Glue isn't a bad idea, you know.
Damn Tead. Your supposed to stab the other guy. Not your own thigh brother. Just some helpful advice for the next knife fight. You Cajuns need to relax a little and let things go!
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Geez Tead...... Ouch!!! In what universe was this necessary?
Super Glue isn't a bad idea, you know.
Some day I'll run across an opportunity to try topicals. I've been threatening to make some. Picked up my 2 pack of lecitin the other day with the new jug of CalMag and a replacement microscope. I'll have to crank up the butter machine and see what I can pour out of it. Expect a PM with questions about making oil.
Super glue has been the goto sealant of choice for eons. I've used it many times on smaller issue, but this one is a touch wide for tube of glue.
I've been diggin my local history lately. Turns out my neighborhood was ground zero for a group of native Americans called the 'Bayougoula'. I just gave a few drops to the ancestors yesterday.... that was all.... yea.... it wasn't really just a stupid Tead move... I was honoring my forefathers!
It was poor day to choose white shoes.
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Forget those words... let's do such things in public where others may glean bits of info they may need.
So, I have 2 different groups of patients involved.. but they have similar needs.
I've got 2 neighbors that I've been feeding with trim that they've been making brownies from.
They're in their 70's/80's and the tolls of this world have built up on them both. Their mobility is severely limited by knee and leg issues. They have other general issues as well, but the lack of mobility is starting to be self feeding and the typical slide has begun. I want to try to curb it some and allow them to just walk easier. At this moment in time, they're both using canes and will soon be using walkers.
On a personal note, the fact that these 2 humans are surviving on their own is a testament to their feisty nature and I really have a ton of respect for them.
The other patient set is very different but wanting the same product really. Another neighbor is a massage therapist that wants to use a mild mix as a massage oil.
When I crack open my MB2 manual, I'm thinking I just follow the directions to get to "MagicalButterOil Concentrate".
Seems easy 'nuff.
Thoughts/comments/questions y'all?
That uses the tincture right? I've never made tincture or CCO yet. Now I do love the infused oil though, is a cleaner high for me and I stay functional
I'm sure SuperSue will chime in to guide you down this fantastic road
Have fun...and be sure and share yer adventure with us
Gauge Steel
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If you use Keif your going to get a much better product if you are looking for oil with your MB2. I used frozen trim and 100 proof grain alcohol followed MB2 instructions exactly and i got green crumble that stains everything it touches.
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Hey Tead
How do you clean yer perlit/vermiculite mix to re use it
Graciass buddy
How do you clean yer perlit/vermiculite mix to re use it
Graciass buddy
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1. Plug hempy hole.
2. Dump in a 'glug' or two of bleach
3. Fill to brim with water
4. Go smoke some bowls for 1/2 hour
5. Remove hempy hole plug (warning, bleach water runoff here).
6. Flush the bejezus out of it.... like 20x the container capacity.
7. Start next victim
Saweeeeeet
That's too easy...thanks
Think my days of soil are over...the hempy plants really seem to be happy...and it's so easy to work with them over soil
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Well... it's lazy... that's for sure. Part of Tead wants to scream "Of course.... jump in!", but a wise Tead might say that one should make such major changes a touch more cautiously. Things can play out differently in various gardens for a broad variety of reasons. Folks familiar with hydro feeding seem to have a better historic track record over soil growers, but usually even those with dirty fingers pick right up on it all.
Of course, it seems to be all the rage lately, so you'll find plenty of banter and support around regarding hempy growing. There are many historical grows one can dig thru... many with some very interesting discussions regarding things a lazy grower would never consider.
DECARB, DECARB, DECARB first. The magical butter people know this, but they want to pretend people use these for other herbs, so they put this step off to the side in their recipes. 130F for 110 minutes works. Inside a turkey bag for those smell sentive locations.
Stronger is often better, Magical butter recipes for oil are for cooking oil.
Do a stronger strength for a topical - unless treating mosquito bites or a mild rash. For arthritis or joint pain, you want it stronger than for cooking.
It takes a minimum of 2 cups to run an MB2. I think I did the 8 hour at 190F for my batch of topical oil.
This is my (mild) topical experiement. It worked pretty well for fighting a nasty auto-immune type rash. Getting her to vape at the same time worked better
Radogast's Hi-Brix Basement Grow - New Location - New Soil - New Experiences
We use the hell outta our MB1 machine. Great machine, but then we haven't done anything but budder. We bought the MB1 when they first came out and it still going strong. They've added afew new options on the MB2 and ironed out acouple bugs I see. We've made one batch with the new MB2 so far. Is a heavy duty unit. Both are... And great support peoples if needed.
We decarb in a casserole dish for 2 hours at 250 I think,, Miss J does that. But the MB2 machine has a temp of over 210 I think. Was a lower max temp with the MB1. But it's got a 2-hour timer on it, for like butter or coconut oil,, which we use.. Hella easier to work with the oil then butter. Strain easier and recovery is better. And cooks to same for cookies and brownies, I hear it's better for ya? I wonder seeing it has a 210-degree setting, if you could skip decarbing? I have no idea if it's long and hot enough for that process. But even MG says "decarb, decarb, and decarb". As Rad said^. Now the other stuff???? I wonder in my head what wood happen with something like 200 proof vaporizing thru that electric motor that don't sound healthy. I don't have a clue if they even have a recipe using that,, but it's a great mixing and simmering unit. The smell is minimal after decarbing.
You can use coconut oil to make oils for a massage person. Err that sounded odd,,,,, but, Add alittle camphor for the Vicks type feel. They say camphor has great properties in itself and helps speed up the absorption speed. . Just don't over do,, or you'll have a Vick's factory.
But like I always say is a time and place,, and if you have need,, this does a great job at what it does.. Just add weed?????
Keepem Green
We decarb in a casserole dish for 2 hours at 250 I think,, Miss J does that. But the MB2 machine has a temp of over 210 I think. Was a lower max temp with the MB1. But it's got a 2-hour timer on it, for like butter or coconut oil,, which we use.. Hella easier to work with the oil then butter. Strain easier and recovery is better. And cooks to same for cookies and brownies, I hear it's better for ya? I wonder seeing it has a 210-degree setting, if you could skip decarbing? I have no idea if it's long and hot enough for that process. But even MG says "decarb, decarb, and decarb". As Rad said^. Now the other stuff???? I wonder in my head what wood happen with something like 200 proof vaporizing thru that electric motor that don't sound healthy. I don't have a clue if they even have a recipe using that,, but it's a great mixing and simmering unit. The smell is minimal after decarbing.
You can use coconut oil to make oils for a massage person. Err that sounded odd,,,,, but, Add alittle camphor for the Vicks type feel. They say camphor has great properties in itself and helps speed up the absorption speed. . Just don't over do,, or you'll have a Vick's factory.
But like I always say is a time and place,, and if you have need,, this does a great job at what it does.. Just add weed?????
Keepem Green
The massage oil is the easiest, but keep in mind that the MB2 requires you to use at least two cups of oil in any process. Massage oils made with a small quantity of high THC should be good, and almond oil is a wonderful massage oil, much nicer than coconut oil, IMO, and popular with massage therapists. You could do a small amount in a crock pot instead of the MB2. I typically use 7 grams to each half cup for a potent mix, so I'd think a perfectly good light oil might be attainable with say.....2 - 3 grams of decarbed bud to each half cup.
The therapist may have a preferred oil.
Do the neighbors want a topical, or an edible, as in capsules, or simply infused coconut oil to add to the morning coffee? Each are appropriate and the oils relatively easy to dose, depending on how much they want to be euphoric. Easier than capsules for a start might be to supply them with an oil and instructions to start with a micro dose and add in a few doses a day of that micro dose. Give it a good amount of time, say start with one dose and add in another dose every day until you're up to three or four a day. See how effective that is. If it needs more tweaking begin adding on to each dose in the same way you started, but taking an extra day in between each increase to listen to the body's response.
I'm a fan of the 3-4 doses a day schedule. I feel it keeps a good baseline of cannabinoids in the system at all times, so you get more than symptom relief. You kickstart full-out natural healing by maintaining a more level endocannabinoid tone. Starting low increases the chance that you won't jump past the optimal therapeutic dose in your rush to find relief. It's usually lower than we anticipate.
Start low and titrate up slowly and thoughtfully. Drum that mantra into their heads. After they've figured out the dose that hits the sweet spot they can enjoy recreational use, but be careful about setting the med doses. Sometimes too much means more pain. Not the relief we had in mind.
It may not take much oil at all if it's split into three or four doses. I'd probably start with a dose as small as 0.25 - 0.3ml. You can use 1 ml syringes for the initial dosing to make it easier. Larger syringes would work too, if some were in hand. Anything that'll make it possible to configure a dose as small as 0.25 ml.
Once they have an idea of how much works per dose you can explore capsules. They might find they like the convienience of adding it to the coffee.
I use size 00 capsules, but smaller ones are available. My oil recipe, which is kick-ass potent, is 100 grams of dry and decarbed bud to each 500ml of oil, but the original recipe calls for a liter of oil, so you might want to go with that. Lol!
For topicals, I defer to Dave Groomer.
suoergroomer's refined pain cream
You can even use bacon fat... Now that sounds good.. I'd even like acouple fried eggs, blinded with lace please. JK not, is a long list of fats you can use. But really bacon fat,, her puppies will love her,, or him... I guess it woodn't be a good choice for a rub down... I know Sue knows abit about all them processes. Keepem Green
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hmmm.... 2 cups seems like a lot for some testing. Seems like the MB2 might have to wait for me to iron out a recipe before I start making 2 cup batches.
I chuckled about that in the manual when I read it. The whole manual reads a bit like it may have been a secret message sent subliminally by Cheech and Chong. The standard childish dance by manufacturers to avoid any hint of MJ in connection with their products. At least they had the decency to perform the 'standard childish dance'.... shame we all have to do such a convoluted dance after all these years.
I like Supergroomer's beeswax mix. Not sure if I'll use that for the first run, but I really like it. Of course, building the base oil is the key.
Of course! What was I thinking? Not only does she probably have a preferred oil... she might even share a touch with me.
Topicals all around.... tho I'm certain the ladies will be hitting me up for more once they get over some pre-programmed ideas.
It's funny when working with the generations that preceded me. It can be somewhat of an odd experience as they start to see that maybe, just maybe, someone's been lying to them for a very long time.
So, my plan thus far...
Decarb 7g bud material at 200f for 2hrs.
Warm crock pot to ~250f.
Break buds apart with hands.
Put 1/2 cup undetermined oil into cup inside of crock pot and let it warm.
Put 7g decarbed bud material into warm 1/2 cup.
Let cook/infuse for 2 hours.
Filter.
Am I ok here? Should I let it infuse longer?
I chuckled about that in the manual when I read it. The whole manual reads a bit like it may have been a secret message sent subliminally by Cheech and Chong. The standard childish dance by manufacturers to avoid any hint of MJ in connection with their products. At least they had the decency to perform the 'standard childish dance'.... shame we all have to do such a convoluted dance after all these years.
I like Supergroomer's beeswax mix. Not sure if I'll use that for the first run, but I really like it. Of course, building the base oil is the key.
Of course! What was I thinking? Not only does she probably have a preferred oil... she might even share a touch with me.
Topicals all around.... tho I'm certain the ladies will be hitting me up for more once they get over some pre-programmed ideas.
It's funny when working with the generations that preceded me. It can be somewhat of an odd experience as they start to see that maybe, just maybe, someone's been lying to them for a very long time.
So, my plan thus far...
Decarb 7g bud material at 200f for 2hrs.
Warm crock pot to ~250f.
Break buds apart with hands.
Put 1/2 cup undetermined oil into cup inside of crock pot and let it warm.
Put 7g decarbed bud material into warm 1/2 cup.
Let cook/infuse for 2 hours.
Filter.
Am I ok here? Should I let it infuse longer?
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And isn't this the most frustrating part?! Even I grew up with the constant barrage of government and public messages about the evils of cannabis. I regret listening to any of it....relief could have come sooner, and just maybe, I would have put two & two together and seen the light if I would have tried it more than 20 years ago. But, you know, I was a goody two-shoes....now I'm growing it and cooking it in my kitchen.
250 should be high enough to get it done in 2 hours. The pressure cooker method that I used yesterday is for two hours at approximately 240. Sue will know more than I do. Hopefully, she'll chime in.
Gauge Steel
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I did what Radogast did sans turkey bag. Wish i would have done turkey bag. P.U.
Gauge
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It'll be decarbed, so two hours should work. Give it lots of agitation. A fork works quite well, smashing and stirring.
For a topical grape seed oil is the best choice. It absorbs into the skin much better.
When it's done with the decarb toss the bag into the freezer for an hour. It'll give the fumes time to settle.