JustMeds
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I can see the same thing here. It is like the old school smoke of days long gone. I only made 1 Blue Dream cob and have 3/4 of it left. I want to save some to make it to the 6 month and 1 year mark.
Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis
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I can see the same thing here. It is like the old school smoke of days long gone. I only made 1 Blue Dream cob and have 3/4 of it left. I want to save some to make it to the 6 month and 1 year mark.
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LMFAO @ "patient".
I guess maybe so, if his "illness" is not being high, huh Doctor?
This is part of our challenge, even among ourselves we snicker at the “patient” designation.
We are all patients when we consume cannabis. It’s not like the cannabinoids and their synergistic components have a meeting and decide that this journey is only for recreation, so “no repair work this time, ok?”
My daughter’s regimen is her lifeline, but she’s learned to fully appreciate euphoria as she’s become more adapted to consumption methods. Every dose she takes, for whatever intended purpose, is medicine for her starving ECS. Her partner sees the dramatic improvements in her and still turns his nose up at the smell and sometimes makes disparaging remarks about her being high all the time.
Cannabis is medicine for her, every dose. It’s the same for each and every one of us. The world will be a better, kinder, more tolerant place when we stop thinking of cannabis as a drug and stop thinking of ourselves as stoners. We’re just people who appreciate a euphoric outlook while our bodies heal.
Sorry TS. You hit a nerve.
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I hear you. Every time I open the Malawi cobs they’ve improved. I’m already looking at them deciding which cob I’ll set aside for December to celebrate my birthday month and the welcoming of the New Year. Lol!
lazyfish
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Dark Devil cob is like neon purple.... I grew 5 devils last year when the co I was buying soil started making it hot and burned all my plants. Bastards.... Never got to taste the dark devil. Thanks Sue for sending some seeds my way...one popped today.
Sorry TS. You hit a nerve.
I figured I'd hit more than one (person's).
About 25 years ago, there was some kind of big survey. Basically came down to, "If medical marijuana was legalized on a federal level, but only for a product that provided no "buzz," would you use that product?"
89% said NO.
I'd hope that if the same question was asked today, the percentages would be reversed.
DISCLAIMER: Me, I like to get high. And one of these days, I hope to find some strain of cannabis that is able to do this as well as all the things that I've stopped consuming :sad: . I like the thought of medicinal benefits, too, but can't say that I've ever felt any medicinal benefits from cannabis that I haven't found in pill form.
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That's just it for me. As a result of seeing what brutal negative side-effects so many of todays "pills" give, I'm not necessarily looking for "the cure". Simply replacing one/some of the pills far too common in our lives today with cannabis is enough of a "medicinal value" for me to support it.
If I can take 2 rips off my vaporizer instead of taking 2 ibuprofen for my chronic nerve pain, or relax at night instead of taking Xanax I was prescribed for anxiety from what I was having to deal with for several months, it's a medicine for me. The odd thing is, I used cannabis along WITH those pills for a time, but realized I could use cannabis alone and simply modify my other coping skills for both pain and anxiety. My liver and kidneys thank me everyday they don't have to filter all those other toxins.
90% of that is the filler they put in them to end up with something larger than a spec of dust (and to help kill off the junkies quicker, I guess?). And that's especially troublesome for those who have to take multiple pills per day. They ought to have to put cold-water extraction directions on the bottles, by law, lofl. Never happen, though - there's probably lots of money in liver failure meds, right?
But, yeah, I'd hope that more people would still use cannabis TODAY if there were legal forms that didn't get people high. Seems like every week or so I read a story about someone crippled, ill, old, or some combination of them trying cannabis for the first time and realizing that, yes, it can be a medicine, too. Plus there are more and more "CBD" varieties out there for sale. Unfortunately(???lol???), many things are best treated - best as far as our current knowledge, at least - with strains that have high levels of THC in them. I've been paying attention more or less to Sue's posts about using "fresh" cannabis. That will - if I understand/recall her definition of the term correctly, which IDK right now, lol, kind of an off day with 18 different disasters all hit before noon (on a Sunday, FFS) - involve bud that might have relatively high level of THCa but not THC. Err... Δ9, I mean. I guess we got to be specific, with Δ9THC(a), Δ8THC(a), Δ5THC(a), etc. IDFK
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I figure anyone who's satisfied with a vaporizer instead of a joint or good bowl (or at least a bong ), then they MUST be in it for the med and not the head 
. Because I haven't tried one yet that'll get me high, even for the ten-15 minutes that smoking a big fat joint will.
But, yeah, I'd hope that more people would still use cannabis TODAY if there were legal forms that didn't get people high. Seems like every week or so I read a story about someone crippled, ill, old, or some combination of them trying cannabis for the first time and realizing that, yes, it can be a medicine, too. Plus there are more and more "CBD" varieties out there for sale. Unfortunately(???lol???), many things are best treated - best as far as our current knowledge, at least - with strains that have high levels of THC in them. I've been paying attention more or less to Sue's posts about using "fresh" cannabis. That will - if I understand/recall her definition of the term correctly, which IDK right now, lol, kind of an off day with 18 different disasters all hit before noon (on a Sunday, FFS) - involve bud that might have relatively high level of THCa but not THC. Err... Δ9, I mean. I guess we got to be specific, with Δ9THC(a), Δ8THC(a), Δ5THC(a), etc. IDFK
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I figure anyone who's satisfied with a vaporizer instead of a joint or good bowl (or at least a bong
), then they MUST be in it for the med and not the head . Because I haven't tried one yet that'll get me high, even for the ten-15 minutes that smoking a big fat joint will.
tangwena
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You will like the Zamaldelica a lot cobbed it makes me feel like I am sixteen on my first acid trip its that good.It brings a tear to my eye too @lazyfish. I never imagined it'd blow up like this. I figured maybe I'd get a couple guys interested.
The smoking experience is really intriguing. Like you say, I feel more in touch with the euphoria, and no matter what, the smoothness of the smoke is worth the cobbing all on its own.
As these mature the euphoria will change. Of this I'm certain. I'm glad so much experimenting is going on, because in another month we're all gonna notice a difference and be super excited.I'm amazed you kept so many sealed up. I wanted a taste of each, and at each step along the way. Lol!
Tuesday's my next opening of the bags, and it's the Malawi bag.Can't wait to get some Zamaldelica going.
Its so good I only use it now and then I dont get much done when I am high on that stuff even though I am stimulated big time its more directed to having fun than anything constructive.
You can feel the Malawi influence very strongly but the Zamal is equally strong.
I have some pure Zamal cobs from an Aussie friend smells strong like tea tree oil. Very strong trippy high but stone cold not much emotions. I prefer it mixed with the Malawi it makes it more euphoric and fun loving.
Be prepared to laugh your ass off. Honestly I could get busted by the cops and still think it was hillarious on the Zamaldelica.
I was on a 5 hr flight from Queensland and I chewed about 0.5g before take off. About 2 hours into the flight I had to put my sun glasses on and pretend I was sleeping listening to the music.
I was gripping the chair arms with white knuckles it felt like I was on the nose of jet like a figurine on a ship except it was a jet ha ha.
I was bursting out to just scream and let loose it was sooo hard to not freak out.
I turned to speak to my wife and just burst out laughing every time I looked at her I burst out laughing I gave up trying to say anything at all and just concentrated on looking straight.
sitting there with sun glasses on and a stupid big grin nothing and I mean nothing was serious its real Malawi laughing grass you will fall in love with the effects best trip ever if you like laughing your ass of for 5 hrs and I do I really do.
Today its Golden Tiger I mixed 2/3 Malawi pheno with 1/3 Thai pheno cob its the very best high you can get pure peace and love and lsd all mixed into a 0.5g trip fest.
Gota go and see what my house looks like I usually get lost in it on this stuff its like a castle full of crazy Alice in wonderland things to drink and swallow.
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You know I love you, right?
Dark Devil cob is like neon purple.... I grew 5 devils last year when the co I was buying soil started making it hot and burned all my plants. Bastards.... Never got to taste the dark devil. Thanks Sue for sending some seeds my way...one popped today.
My pleasure. Maybtheybgrow big and glorious for you. Rifleman would like to be linked to any journals growing his DDA seeds. When you start covering it, will you do that please?
The euphoric effects of THC in its varied forms is of great medicinal value. I would fight to the death to keep a policy that allowed cannabis therapeutics but restricted THC from the medical tool box from being implemented. It's THC that kills cancer cells in the same way CBD kills fibrous hepatic cells. Without THC in the formula you can't use cannabis as a healing modality for most of the conditions for which we seek relief.
Smoking is effective as an administrative pathway if you're dealing with breakthrough anxiety, depression, pain, or muscle spasm. There's no faster way to get relief for these conditions than a couple hits from a joint. But for all other disease states for which cannabis can be a treatment modality you are well advised to use cannabis oils.
An infused oil is one of the easiest dosing methods available, and simply taking a small dose of oil on a schedule, 3-5 times a day, you can create a baseline of cannabinoids available for your body to begin serious healing. Treating symptoms with smoking does just that, treat symptoms. A steady diet of regularly administered cannabinoids creates an internal healing environment that allows your ECS to begin creating homeostasis.
When you're serious about using cannabis as a medicine you step beyond smoking.
My daughter is paying the price with her liver for a lifetime of overuse of OTC pain killers. Pharmaceuticals cause more problems than they treat. They don't solve anything, IMO. Cannabis is more effective than almost all of them. Next year we hope to taper her off those psych pills they have her on that they told her she'd never be able to stop taking. Not because she'll need them, mind you, but because her body won't let her quit.
Pharmaceuticals......
90% of that is the filler they put in them to end up with something larger than a spec of dust (and to help kill off the junkies quicker, I guess?). And that's especially troublesome for those who have to take multiple pills per day. They ought to have to put cold-water extraction directions on the bottles, by law, lofl. Never happen, though - there's probably lots of money in liver failure meds, right?
But, yeah, I'd hope that more people would still use cannabis TODAY if there were legal forms that didn't get people high. Seems like every week or so I read a story about someone crippled, ill, old, or some combination of them trying cannabis for the first time and realizing that, yes, it can be a medicine, too. Plus there are more and more "CBD" varieties out there for sale. Unfortunately(???lol???), many things are best treated - best as far as our current knowledge, at least - with strains that have high levels of THC in them. I've been paying attention more or less to Sue's posts about using "fresh" cannabis. That will - if I understand/recall her definition of the term correctly, which IDK right now, lol, kind of an off day with 18 different disasters all hit before noon (on a Sunday, FFS) - involve bud that might have relatively high level of THCa but not THC. Err... Δ9, I mean. I guess we got to be specific, with Δ9THC(a), Δ8THC(a), Δ5THC(a), etc. IDFK
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I figure anyone who's satisfied with a vaporizer instead of a joint or good bowl (or at least a bong
To get high on a vaporizer you need to dedicate yourself to using one exclusively for two weeks, at which time your body will adjust and you won't get high on a joint.
I find that fact absolutely fascinating. Lol! However.....I'm not willing to fight my way through two weeks of frustration to get to that point.
The plant doesn't create THC. When left to cure the THCa will aggressively convert to THC, but it's not found in the living plant at all. When you smoke you convert it to delta-9 and it gets you high because it hits the receptors in the brain, but that 11-hydroxy the liver creates is so superior a buzz for those that appreciate it that edibles are the only way to go.
That's basically what we're celebrating here.
Just finished my multiple harvests. I guess I missed all of you. Lol!
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Do you know what's really sweet about reading this? I have a trip coming up to California, and I'm on the east coast in Pennsylvania, so it's an all-day affair getting there. I love flying, and that's being conservative. Lol! By the time I leave I'll have Malawi cobs cured almost two months to dose myself with before the flight.
Damn! I gotta get me some Golden Tiger seeds!
Saw the golden tiger seeds available today at seedsmanDo you know what's really sweet about reading this? I have a trip coming up to California, and I'm on the east coast in Pennsylvania, so it's an all-day affair getting there. I love flying, and that's being conservative. Lol! By the time I leave I'll have Malawi cobs cured almost two months to dose myself with before the flight.
Damn! I gotta get me some Golden Tiger seeds!
I'm tempted
I can't get any of mine to break ground. Is it a bit weaker out of the gate, maybe due to a feminized (possibly selfed by the original breeder) plant being selfed? Or just my bad luck, lol?
You betcha. When I was into chugging grain alcohol, I found its euphoric benefits to have great medicinal value, too. The rage, coupled with the anesthetic quality... was just a bonus (I wanted to type something else instead of "grain alcohol," but... guidelines
).That's cool. There are other ways to kill the buzz without removing the THCa, if I remember correctly. Just play with some of the "minor" cannabinoid ratios. That way you can end up with potent medicine that doesn't require getting f*cked up in the process.
But then we get back to "Would the world accept it, or is it full of cannabis junkies, lol?"
That's hilarious. Adjust yourself to getting less high and a joint won't get you high? O.... kay.
Well... It creates the CBGa - which is the precursor to THCa - and the THCa synthase that converts it to THCa. So we'd all be wishing we had some other kind of drug to get our kicks on without the plant.
I mean, yeah, we can create THC in a lab. (CBGa is easy to synthesize, but the THCa synthase is a bit trickier... although they've had some luck with a certain type of yeast, but one only gets tiny amounts, IIRC.) Or THCa, if you prefer. But then you miss out on the hundreds of other cannabinoids. It's kind of a shame that there's no quick and easy way to whip them all up in a one-shot lab process. Sure would save lots of time and electricity. But the D would still go after folks, probably via the Federal Analog Act. Government doesn't like people having fun, you know.
I looked at an old study about 11-OH-THC, once. Apparently, the test subjects found the potency to be the same, but the onset was faster. Which would probably be a thing if people were shooting up with 11-OH-THC
- but I can smoke a joint faster than I can eat an infused gummi bear and get the THC absorbed into my blood, then get that blood cleaned by my liver, and the liver to metabolize the THC into the 11-OH-THC (/etc.). It might pass through the blood:brain barrier a bit faster (jury is still out, last I heard; there is some thought that the real difference here is just that THC simply remains bound to proteins in the blood longer - which is not exactly the same thing, although it might "feel like it").Personally, the (very) few times I got off on edibles, I did notice that the effects lasted significantly longer. But I kind of chalked that up to the truly heroic doses involved. But I'm willing to believe it would have lasted longer in "normal" doses, too. After all, all the good drugs' effects go away faster when ya smoke 'em (/hit harder).
Seems like the more years in which I can't seem to get high no matter how much I smoke, the less interest I have in the whole cannabis thing. I mean... what's the point, lol? The worse shape the body gets, the closer I come to just saying screw it and giving up and going down and signing up for the government dole like all the rest of the bums. The state will buy me some meds. Some will be useful as they come, some will require some simple finishing touches. . . .
The Malawi parent of Zamaladelica's Golden Tiger father is still evident in the strain? I was sort of hoping all that part would be overwhelmed by the Thai ancestry. I remember actually getting high off some Thai years ago. And some highland sativa from Mexico.
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If you can afford it, how do you pass that up? Orgasmic euphoria Chris. Really......*sigh*
Cuz I have a zillion seeds already
Lol
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tangwena
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I have something to share with you a new friend in Assie just dropped off some tastes of his work with some spunky Zamal crosses these have to be so good.Do you know what's really sweet about reading this? I have a trip coming up to California, and I'm on the east coast in Pennsylvania, so it's an all-day affair getting there. I love flying, and that's being conservative. Lol! By the time I leave I'll have Malawi cobs cured almost two months to dose myself with before the flight.
Damn! I gotta get me some Golden Tiger seeds!
They smell like the best hash and are oily and very aromatic bloody perfect cure.
Its nice to be on these and other forums you meet the coolest people. The guys and gals on this forum have made my day you guys have made some killer cures in the short time you've been going.
I would try them now but I am just holding on to reallity on this GT trip I'm on right now its a good job my auto pilot seems to be functioning ha ha.
Clap your eyes on these stinky beauties my lady.
tangwena
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Theres a couple of phenos the Thai and the Malawi both are worth keeping.
If you chew these babies you wont be asking yourself any questions just answering them all it will take you and do with what it pleases if you prefer a little Thai to a big African thats your personal taste my friend.
I like to vary the mix for different types of trip effect either or both they all do the job.