Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

Thanks TS, Apparently I need to do more research it seems
not a fan of anything mentioned above, Maybe CL for a AUTOCLAVE, actually remember
seeing one listed with a MEDICAL EQUIPMENT liquidation

I never thought of that. I'll have to keep an eye out. Maybe someone would be willing to trade for an el cheapo welder. Can't use it here, the anemic hamster in my fuse box can't seem to run very fast.
 
I never thought of that. I'll have to keep an eye out. Maybe someone would be willing to trade for an el cheapo welder. Can't use it here, the anemic hamster in my fuse box can't seem to run very fast.

Hmm... 1,125 watts. No, that's not going to work. And, even used, they are too rich for me. But I have a handy Mirro LARGE pressure canner. I'll bet if I put a little water in it, added a rack, swapped the vent for a pressure gauge, then I could build an auto-- <BOOM!>

What do you know, I actually do have an ounce of sense after all.

LMAO.

But it was fun to contemplate. I'll keep watching the trading papers and such. I have a friend that has electrical capacity. And he hates all the other citizens in the US enough that he's having them pay for his elecricity (etc.), so he wouldn't mind me using such a device at his place. Especially since he's a Big Head from Way Back, lol.

Thanks for the idea!
 
Hmm... 1,125 watts. No, that's not going to work. And, even used, they are too rich for me. But I have a handy Mirro LARGE pressure canner. I'll bet if I put a little water in it, added a rack, swapped the vent for a pressure gauge, then I could build an auto-- <BOOM!>

What do you know, I actually do have an ounce of sense after all.

LMAO.

But it was fun to contemplate. I'll keep watching the trading papers and such. I have a friend that has electrical capacity. And he hates all the other citizens in the US enough that he's having them pay for his elecricity (etc.), so he wouldn't mind me using such a device at his place. Especially since he's a Big Head from Way Back, lol.

Thanks for the idea!

Just did my CL Search and found one in my own town as well, now for the talk down :)

Autoclave Sterilizer Pelton Crane Omniclave OCM - $250
 
And what would this
Just did my CL Search and found one in my own town as well, now for the talk down :)

Autoclave Sterilizer Pelton Crane Omniclave OCM - $250

And what would this be used for in this discussion? Sterilizing the cobs to protect against the completely unrealistic expectation that consuming one would kill you or give you some dread disease?

Really guys? Lol! TS, the simplest way I can think of is to convert it into a paste with some olive oil and swallow it. You won't get any effect from the oral mucosa absorbtion, but the real fireworks are in the conversion to 11-hydroxy on cosmic steroids. I'll send you some capsules and a spoon to load them with. :battingeyelashes:
 
Another sweet taste.....




Into the steamy shower I go.....:ciao:
Hi Sue those cobs look perfect from here nice work but then I didn't think it would not be.
From here on your going to be on a winner.

I went through all this paranoia about mold ect at IC I dont know where all this started from but a lot of people just cant get it out of their head.
Question is there ANY documented evidence of ANYONE EVER getting an infection from smoking or eating cannabis with or without mold.
Because I have never seen any. Yet the paranoia persists in every forum whats the story?

Meanwhile I carry on chewing wet, damp, dry cobs it makes no difference and I know when I was younger we smoked moldy cobs if we couldn't get anything else so why am I still here?

If your worried about your body why inhale smoke into your lungs, we DO KNOW smoking kills you whether its cigs or canna or both dont put crap into your lungs it will kill you.

Yet some people suck on a bong while whinging on about something that exists only in their imagination it beats me.
If it worries you dont do it just keep sucking that crap into your lungs and ignore the obvious its killing you.

Meanwhile I'll roll the dice on the botulism and mold and chew and swallow cobs using the tools nature provided for just that purpose.
Sorry to put a damper on the thread I haven't had my daily cob and tea yet things will look up shortly yeeha!
 
A much respected former member on IC Madjag posted these tests he had done on some cobs he made to test for nasty things in them.
Here is the lab report.

Madjag,

Attached are the lab reports for the samples you submitted on Monday. The sample material turned out remarkably clean on all three microbial tests. My guess is that maybe the vacuum-packing may have had something to do with that. I ran the suspected “borneol” flower material for terpenes. I did not find any borneol and only a minute trace of the related compound camphene. As is often the case with cannabis strains, the dominant terpenes are caryophyllene and humulene with some myrcene, limonene, and eucalyptol thrown in. It is worth noting that borneol, camphene, and eucalyptol are somewhat related chemically, botanically, and by smell.

Please feel free to call or email me if you have any comments or questions. And thanks for all the links – I’ve just started going thru them.

Regards,
 
Just did my CL Search and found one in my own town as well, now for the talk down :)

Autoclave Sterilizer Pelton Crane Omniclave OCM - $250

I've always been way too paranoid to tell anyone where I lived ;) . Of course, if I lived there, most of my cannabis-related paranoia would be moot, lol.

Hope you get it - those things have all kinds of uses. Many of which cannot be discussed here.

Sterilizing the cobs to protect against the completely unrealistic expectation that consuming one would kill you or give you some dread disease?

I felt the same way about histoplasmosis back when I was a teenager. And that one... the words "not very serious" spring to mind. However, it was in my case. That was 30 years ago, and I am not nearly as healthy as I was then. I'm just sayin'.

TS, the simplest way I can think of is to convert it into a paste with some olive oil and swallow it. You won't get any effect from the oral mucosa absorbtion, but the real fireworks are in the conversion to 11-hydroxy on cosmic steroids. I'll send you some capsules and a spoon to load them with. :battingeyelashes:

I'll have to get some more olive oil. Mine went old, dark, and rancid. Probably shouldn't have stored it in the cupboard over the oven. And shouldn't have bought a large bottle, either. Heeeeey... How did you know that my cutlery consists on what I pick up by the handful when I make it to Taco Bell to buy a dollar cheesy bean & rice burrito, lol? A spork is a wonderful, useful thing. But it's not so good at scraping the last bite of mashed potatoes out of a deep container :rolleyes: :lol: 😉 . I do love me some mashed potatoes - you can just put them in your mouth and swallow, no chewing required. If made stiffly enough, they don't tend to find their way into... holes.

BtW, your descriptions are as magical as ever. You should write children's books. More and more of them are having their... whatever it is this lives only in a child's heart, they're having it ripped out all too often, these days.

Question is there ANY documented evidence of ANYONE EVER getting an infection from smoking or eating cannabis with or without mold.
Because I have never seen any. Yet the paranoia persists in every forum whats the story?

Documented, how? Like this:
Once I put a small peice of lettuce in a bag of weed to keep it moist. I left it in a bit too long. I didnt realize that it was molding. It did smell weird but didnt think nothing of it. Fuck I just wanted to get stoned. It did make me feel sick after a day or two. A little like a cold. More like being alergic to something. I learned my lesson after that.

Or do you mean from medical records of people who went to their doctor or their local ER due to having aggrivated their asthma, had cold- or flu-like symptoms, or even increased their risk of eventually getting cancer years down the road (a wee bit difficult to really document that one) and, during the examination said, "By the way, I recently smoked (and/or) ate moldy bud." Because around here, cannabis is still illegal for the vast majority of the population - so most people aren't going to mention it (especially to a doctor that they might one day hope to get a prescription for something or other from, IMHO) unless they fear that they're getting extremely ill and that the only way they'll get better is that if the person treating them knows that they've been consuming cannabis. And it is also important to consider the fact that - as you, yourself stated - the paranoia on this subject runs high; therefore, most people (all of the ones that I know, most of whom can only occasionally afford to buy bud in the first place and who would mourn the loss of any bud that they happened to have) are going to go out of their way to NOT consume contaminated bud. And that further shrinks the size of the population from which you'd be able to find any positives in. Maybe some stupid teenagers, lol. They smoke their bowl resin...

If your worried about your body why inhale smoke into your lungs, we DO KNOW smoking kills you whether its cigs or canna or both dont put crap into your lungs it will kill you.

I agree wholeheartedly on the cigarette thing. They've probably already killed me (with lots of help from other things - in a "product liability lawsuit" situation, lol, my heirs - if I had any - would be tied up in court for generations while the question of which entities/chemicals were responsible for what part of it :rolleyes: ).

BtW, smoking Kool cigarettes (non-filters when they still made them) killed my grandfather deader than last Christmas. And he only smoked two to four packs per day. Only made it to (IIRC) 93. <SCRATCHES HEAD> But it was a brain tumor that did him in; his lungs were in better shape at the end than mine were at age 20, AfaIK. Nonetheless...

But, yes, they are a clear & present danger and all that. So are a multitude of other things. Are you postulating that, because a person encounters one of them, that he/she should then not be worried about all the rest? (Are you secretly a politician, lol?)

Hey, there's smog in California. That sh!t will kill you, man, so there's no point in worrying about the danger of trying to run across 12 lanes of busy Los Angelas freeway ;) .

Man. I need that rep hammer.

I really miss the "Thank You" button. I found that I used the Thanks and Like things for different reasons.


I thought I had some Malawi (Gold) seeds. Not the real deal (sourced directly from Malawi and guaranteed to be "da kind"), but the commercially available ones. Sadly, I was mistaken.

I do have one seed labeled as "African Buzz" that I think is the Seedsman strain. Which I think I might have read once has something to do with Malawi Gold in some way or other (IDK). I'm not sure if it came from an actual pack of the seeds, was produced by a private individual by selfing/backcrossing the line, or if it was some sort of <OOPS> whereby only one parent was 100% guaranteed to be African Buzz. But if it'll sprout, I'll find out eventually.

I also have several seeds labeled "Zamaldelica." That strain has been mentioned in this thread and, IIRC, the "Landraces" one, and positively so every time. IDK if these were produced in one of the same ways that I mentioned above, or what. Might have just been pulled out of a baggie of bud. But I'm hopeful about it, too.

I did have some Durban Poison that was produced directly from commercial seeds. It was bought by someone who got really mad about what it turned out he'd bought, lol, so he gave me a chunk when I mentioned that I'd had it years ago and thought it wasn't too awfully bad. He said I'd be disappointed - and he was right. But the two I mentioned above, yeah, hopeful. If/when I produce anything from them, I'll definitely be referring back to this thread and trying to create a cob or three. I'm still not sure whether I'll end up consuming them... But I'm sure someone will ;) .

And I wonder if that lone "Mango Haze" seed I've got would be a worthy cob candidate?

A much respected former member on IC Madjag posted these tests he had done on some cobs he made to test for nasty things in them.
Here is the lab report.

Thank you very much. That reassures me somewhat. A lot, actually - because it clearly shows that it is possible to produce non-contaminated cobs.

If there is anyone (else) wondering if ones that DO end up contaminated are safe to consume, lol, maybe you can find a lab report of a cob sample that was full of contaminants - that ended up being eaten, with zero ill aftereffects?

That probably came off as the words of a smart-@ss. But I am curious about which life forms can exist in a cob, either "live," viable spores, encapsulated organisms, et cetera. Sometimes knowing what to look out for is half the (mental) battle.

And a big, bold, Thank You! to all of the participants in this thread for increasing my knowledge on a daily basis. I'm sure that I don't say/type that often enough.

EDIT: I did find one article that mentioned some specific "baddies" that can be found on bud. Not cob-specific, but I'll add the link to the web page in case anyone is interested. I won't leave it live in case it's not a website that is completely compatible with our forum guidelines (IDK):
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https://herb.co/marijuana/news/smoking-moldy-weed-sick
And this is not MY information; I cannot really argue its truthfulness (or lack thereof). (OOPS, wrong link. IDK how I managed to do that, but... corrected.)
 
And what would this


And what would this be used for in this discussion? Sterilizing the cobs to protect against the completely unrealistic expectation that consuming one would kill you or give you some dread disease?

Really guys? Lol! TS, the simplest way I can think of is to convert it into a paste with some olive oil and swallow it. You won't get any effect from the oral mucosa absorbtion, but the real fireworks are in the conversion to 11-hydroxy on cosmic steroids. I'll send you some capsules and a spoon to load them with. :battingeyelashes:

For me its simply Peace of Mind I would not be comfortable offering this to anyone if I did not
do my best to insure its safety. Probably not needed but ..... I also use my seat belt just in case ;)

EDIT; I should add I was only speaking of myself since I share a lot of what I grow I will be offering
it to others although I will certainly be testing it FIRST :)
 
Whew! TS, you’re gonna scorch everyone’s brain. :battingeyelashes:

Let me back up and see what all the paranoia has created. Lol!
 
Back and on the way up to heaven on some Chopper Read ha ha The days going to get very out of control on this stuff.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with the above posts.
I hadn't had my medicine and was a grumpy old man for an hour.
He has now gone and in his place is a spunky 16 year old Dolph Lundgren 6 foot six blond hair blue eyes all rippling muscle just not very sharp ha ha.
I will not mention it again, chewing is only for a few people but those who do will know the truth and enter the land of anything is possible and leave all the decaying bad karma behind.
love is the drug all others are just trying to be and not making it.
 
Whew! TS, you’re gonna scorch everyone’s brain. :battingeyelashes:

Sue, darlin', I haven't thrown any parties in years ;) . But I almost feel like I wish I was wealthy enough to do so now... I just received a third two-liter bottle holder! Now I can jam 24 bottles together in a little square and not worry about them falling over on me. Been a long time since I did a decent SOG grow.
 
For me its simply Peace of Mind I would not be comfortable offering this to anyone if I did not
do my best to insure its safety. Probably not needed but ..... I also use my seat belt just in case

Fair point Gazoo. Tangwena made some strong points too.

We are aware that cannabinoids and terpenoids are, among other things, incredibly effective in enhancing the immune system? The fundamental job of the ECS is to balance the CNS with the immune system.

If there’s someone with an immune system so compromised that ingesting healing components will be problematic they should hold off until they are healthier and can trust in their own healing power.

This community is known to produce clean flowers that we then process with care. No one can guarantee that some whatever could possibly get into some random cob. That’s why we have immune systems monitored by the endocannabinoid system.

This perceived danger is contrived fear. Guys...... find me a single case and we’ll continue this conversation.
 
I hope I didn't offend anyone with the above posts.
I hadn't had my medicine and was a grumpy old man for an hour.

Not that I consider myself to be special or anything, lol. But just on the off chance that you might have meant that towards me, you have NOTHING to worry about in that regard. People can debate - and even argue - without being hateful, and these things are appreciated by most folks (including myself).

As to the "hateful," well, I have seen nothing of that sort in this thread - and only very, very rarely ever seen it on the forum in general. Besides, Mom had called me everything that an English speaker could come up with before I ever made it out of grade school, LOFL, so my skin is remarkably thick. It's not so much that such things don't bother me (although they don't), more so that I rarely notice them.

It's cool, you're cool, everyone is cool. I think we are all still happy as could be that you've been kind enough to (re)join our little cannabis forum. Hopefully, you've had a free moment or two to participate in a few other threads. I think you would be quite welcome in just about any of them.
 
Back and on the way up to heaven on some Chopper Read ha ha The days going to get very out of control on this stuff.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with the above posts.
I hadn't had my medicine and was a grumpy old man for an hour.
He has now gone and in his place is a spunky 16 year old Dolph Lundgren 6 foot six blond hair blue eyes all rippling muscle just not very sharp ha ha.
I will not mention it again, chewing is only for a few people but those who do will know the truth and enter the land of anything is possible and leave all the decaying bad karma behind.
love is the drug all others are just trying to be and not making it.

You feel free to share your euphoric adventures with us. We’re eating it up.

Don’t be concerned about today’s fracas.

God guys.... I can’t turn my back. Lol.
 
Ok, lets throw some humor in here......

If a person was planning a plane trip and wanted to take their cob along I have an idea. Stop at the local hospital and get clear Bio-Hazard bag. Place cob in bag and a attach a label that says " Stool Sample ". I am thinking it may make it through inspection with out even being opened.... LOL
 
This perceived danger is contrived fear. Guys...... find me a single case and we’ll continue this conversation.

They were having a two-for one special ;) .
Code:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3103256/

Not cob-specific.

Dang auto correct

I call mine "auto-mangle" - I have been catching the @#% thing... I will get a correct word, and then when I go to "type" the next one, the correct word changes to another word, but one that is completely nonsensical in context. And this has happened an estimated 100X more often in the last year or so. Someone who is paranoid might even think this is being done on purpose, to subtly encourage someone to purchase a new expensive cell phone when their current model's hardware is just fine and fully capable of performing its tasks.
 
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