Tangwena's Malawi-Style Cob Cure: Fermented Cannabis

[SweetSue]

During the time when it is not vacuum-sealed in a bag? Or do you mean while sealed up? If the latter, surface area wouldn't really be a factor (it won't dry any faster, and it won't have any additional contact with the atmosphere from a larger surface area). As with most of my posts, you can infer an "IMHO" here, lol - but science supports the opinion, since the bag material is not porous.

I’m thinking it helps in the drying between sealed stages as well as create more reactive surface for whatever alchemy is at work. We don’t yet understand the science behind what’s going on here. It occurs to me that the intense biological molecular composition of cannabis is creating something unique. If that’s so, increased surface area feels like a good thing.

 

[MagicJim]

A tip for those growing sativa landraces/hybrids: set light/night period to 11/13. ACE's flowering times are based on this. Otherwise flowering can take much, much more, specially with equatorial lines...

Good tip indeed. I like it and wish I had know this when I grew the Panama.

MagicJim..... I can’t wait to see your first cob pictures.

I'll wait until I can do it properly. I didn't find any husks on my short search and I don't have a food saver machine. I have a great candidate with Fx 2, the hybrid I'm running with the Panama mom.

Or I may just let you guys get a proper 3 month cure and see what you think then.

 

[Neiko]

Ok so the 24 hour sweat is done. No moisture in the bag or on the cobs. It gave off a warm citrus aroma that filled the kitchen though. It opens the sinuses for sure. It didn't need drying so I sealed them back up to ferment. I hope I didn't screw this up.
Before sweating

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• Neiko
• Mar 22, 2018

After 24 hour sweat

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• Neiko
• Mar 23, 2018

 

[TorturedSoul]

I’m thinking it helps in the drying between sealed stages

It would absolutely do that, yes.

 

[SweetSue]

Ok so the 24 hour sweat is done. No moisture in the bag or on the cobs. It gave off a warm citrus aroma that filled the kitchen though. It opens the sinuses for sure. It didn't need drying so I sealed them back up to ferment. I hope I didn't screw this up.
Before sweating

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• Neiko
• Mar 22, 2018

After 24 hour sweat

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• Neiko
• Mar 23, 2018

I seem to recall either Tangwena or repuk mentioning wanting a golden tone going into the cure. Looks like you hit it spot on Neiko. That warm smell was a good indicator. Mine were darker because they were overcooked.

To my understanding, if it's working correctly it'll begin growing darker as the cure progresses.

Good work Neiko.

@MagicJim You'll be pulled in before the three-month mark. Trust me.

 

[lazyfish]

Hello Everyone,

So I didn't ingest anything today except for the 0.25 gram chew of cob this morning. I ate it on an empty stomach. The effects were noticeable after about an hour. A little giggle, then a lot of giggle. No anxious feeling or heart racing. No physical or mental impairment but I noticed that I would just stare at stuff and ponder. It definitely gave me a bit of an emotional experience. I felt incredibly happy and was so happy to be In The Moment. Just kissing my gf or hugging my dog felt so incredible. There was no tiredness or lazy feelings like when I eat brownies or traditional edibles.

It was fairly weak high though.

I think I took this bit of cob out last week so it was only ~2 weeks fermented and dried for a week. The Dr Grinspoon pheno I have is not a real sativa high. It is deep, pleasant. You can smoke it and stay motivated but it is not a real rush like the other pheno that I lost. That one was psychedelic and energizing. I would giggle for hours. That is the one I am searching for and might have her today actually.... Anyways. I am going to open the bag again today and slice another piece off and try in a couple days. I wonder if re hydrating buds to cob made it weak? And I wonder if it will naturally get stronger, or maybe I should eat more? Or chew for longer? One person mentioned chewing it briefly vs. 10 or 15 minutes made a big difference in terms of the strength of the high..... hmm...

Well it was enjoyable and I think it can do better especially starting with something like Malawi, Zamaldelica, thai, or the REAL Dr Grinspoon will help.... I also plan on cobbing the Black Dog and others...

ANother thing... the chewing part was its own sort of experience. The taste I cannot describe but it was wonderful. It left some sort of methol feeling in my mouth for a few hours. It was refreshing.

Ok! Sorry to ramble!

tldr: cobs are awesome

 

[SweetSue]

Good report lazyfish. I’d think increasing the dose would be the next step. Sounds like you’re on the right track.

Try smoking it. You may simply be at a point where it hasn’t decarbed enough.

 

[lazyfish]

Smoking it gets nowhere near what chewing it did. Good... But I think it gets better.

 

[SweetSue]

Smoking it gets nowhere near what chewing it did. Good... But I think it gets better.

Are you still curing it?

 

[lazyfish]

Curing? Do you mean the normal jar cured buds? Or the cob?

I assume the cob. The Dr G cob is still wet and in the vacuum bag. That is what I think we have been calling fermenting. The "cure" is dried and aged cob, no?

 

[JustMeds]

Ok, Here is the "Ronco" set it and forget it cobber. I think the name may even fit.

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• JustMeds
• Mar 23, 2018

 

[lazyfish]

Perfect!

 

[JustMeds]

Heat mat is inside with a towel over it. Temp varies about .7c

 

[dynamo1]

24 hrs smelled a very little of cut grass, small cob a lot lighter in color.Re vacuumed and put on hot water heater-86 degrees
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[lazyfish]

Very nice!

 

[TorturedSoul]

It was fairly weak high though.

I wonder what an amount that a person would use if they were going to roll and smoke a joint (a gram, more or less) would do?

Problem is, one cannot decrease a high at will. And being unable to completely control one's extremities - and head, bobbling on their neck - isn't all that enjoyable (neither is being nauseous almost, but not quite, to the point of vomiting for an extended period of time).

If - as I assume you are - you plan on increasing your dosage, I'd weigh out several
"fractional" portions that make up a "big dose" and then... only consume one of them, lol. Or at least consume them incrementally instead of all at once, always remembering the delay of onset (and/or peak) with eating (vs. smoking). It would really suck to think, "I need to double my dose in order to feel what I am seeking" - only to belatedly learn that all you really needed was to wait a little longer for what you had already consumed to fully latch on.

 

[SweetSue]

Curing? Do you mean the normal jar cured buds? Or the cob?

I assume the cob. The Dr G cob is still wet and in the vacuum bag. That is what I think we have been calling fermenting. The "cure" is dried and aged cob, no?

I'll be curing mine vacuum sealed, opening every week to check, and when I get the effect I'm after I'll let them dry and seal them for storage.

 

[SweetSue]

24 hrs smelled a very little of cut grass, small cob a lot lighter in color.Re vacuumed and put on hot water heater-86 degrees
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It looks like a good example of how differently they work with more plant material, doesn't it? We'll be playing around with different sizes as we continue exploring.

The hardest part is leaving them alone.

 

[SweetSue]

@dynamo1 will you be trying any out tomorrow, or did you seal it all up?

I understand that not everyone is as fearlessly adventurous as I.

 

[lazyfish]

TS:

This is good advice. I know to not underestimate onset time... I have made THAT mistake before...

But if I do eat another piece out of the same bit of dried cob I would probably double it. ~ 0.5 grams. Others that are more experienced seem to report that 0.5 g is a heavy dose, so I am almost completely sure it needs to ferment more or I did something wrong. I opened the vacuum bags again tonight and sliced off another hunk of each strain. I will chew and smoke them soon.

Its interesting... Two different cobs of the same strain have different appearances with all preparations being the same. It might be a little bigger or maybe tighter rolled/ tied??? One is darker and more aromatic. Weird.