Morglie
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Let me make sure I understand, the problem you're having, is that the leaves suddenly drooped overnight like it's thirsty, but then they never perk back up and they drink really slowly after that point?POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH THE 3RD RUN SOIL
The pollination of all the plants in the breeding cabinet appears to have been successful since I'm seeing the pistils turning brown on all the plants.
However, the Blackwater is starting to wilt pretty badly and I'm starting to see some drooping on some of the upper Platinum Cake leaves that should NOT be wilting, at this point.
If you all recall, I had to replace the Bubba Hash and culled the Trainwreck that both also started this same type of wilting.
Well, once is an anomaly, twice is a coincidence, but three times is a pattern and there's definitely some issue.
I have noticed that, on the batch of third run soil I'm using, there's a bunch of mycilium growing on top of the soil. Normally, this would indicate a healthy soil to me, and I wouldn't be worried about it.
But, I also used some of this soil when I up-potted some of the Bonsais that were still in 2" containers just before flipping the breeding cabinet and, when I look at the Blackwater, I can see a bunch of this mycilium that's growing on the surface concentrated around the stalk. The stalk, itself, does not appear to be rotting.
I also noticed that all the wilted plants started out looking like they were overwatered, which is virtually impossible with a Bonsai in a well-draining container, and I'm 420% positive that was not the issue.
Also, the pots on all the wilted containers were heavier than they should be which tells me that the roots stopped working.
I think I can save the PCake (I'll know better tomorrow but won't be able to check them until late afternoon) but the Blackwater probably won't make it. I'm gonna pull it and check the roots tomorrow afternoon and try flushing the PCake real good.
The other plants look fine and should make it to harvest and, there is NONE of that mycilium growing on the surface so I'm pretty sure all the ones that have survived were put into the 4" containers with an earlier batch of soil, which is what leads me to believe the issue is with the soil mix.
Next problem is that the two '79 Christmas Buds plants are in that same soil and they both have lots of that mycilium on the surface of the soil. I'm also seeing EXTREMELY slow growth and some signs of deficiencies that I would have expected to go away by now, being in the high brix soil, although, the leaves aren't wilting (yet?) like the Bonsais.
I don't think either a Rescue Drench or a flush would be the right way to progress, so I'm not entirely sure what I'm gonna do here. I do have a batch of 1st run soil all mixed and cooked, so I may end up re-potting?
I'll get some pics later tomorrow.
Happy Harvests!
K
I've had two plants do this to me as well recently in 3rd run soil. I've also had a couple of other plants that are showing significant deficiencies in the same soil. I haven't seen any of the mycelium like yours though, so I'm of the thought that they are unrelated.
To me, it looked like the soil charge went flat, but the super drench that I have didn't perk anything back up. After that I also put a layer of Roots! on top, then covered it with a nice thick layer of EWC and lightly watered it in. That was only a week ago, so not a long time to tell, but long enough it should have done something if it was going to and it's still a wilting mess.
So I'm kind of at a loss on this as well. I will tell you this, both were showing signs of this for over a month and the plants finished up for me and still grew some nice bud. The yield I'm sure suffered some, but the buds continued to develope just fine and they've finished ok.
the Thai x Panama I'm getting ready to cut this morning is one of them.
I wish I had an answer for you, but I can tell you at least, that they should survive and finish fine.
I've been in 3rd run soil now for about 9 months and I'm just finishing up with it. It's all going to the outdoor gardens as I cut they plants and I'm starting over with fresh. I saw some of the deficiencies on earlier plants, but it was only the two plants that would have came from the same tote of soil that went limp like yours.
) and, once I get cleaned up, I'll try to do some closer inspection.
....the snapper?
He's being released from the hospital, as I type this, back into rehab.
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