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[SweetSue]

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Panic attacks from smoking herb were a major feature of my life for too many years to embarrass myself by admitting. Mostly a result of over consumption because I am very sensitive to it and really have to be careful. I think Waaay too much already, and over smoking can make me second guess everything I'm doing and thinking to the point of complete panic. At an amazingly slow rate, over the years I've learned to smoke more lightly than my friends and choose the context more carefully. Also edibles and extracts work better for me, and sativas. I can absolutely 100% relate to feeling panicky after smoking, Sue.
On the spur of the moment the other night I was going to drop in and send my love, but walked into some crazy shitstorm on your thread, got confused and fled. Ha ha. Anyway....

No worries about that storm Weaselcracker. The weather forecast is clear and sunny days ahead. Glad to see you. Thank you for sharing that. It will offer her hope. She's quite the lightweight. Gets buzzed on hard cider.

 

[SweetSue]

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Daily Update: Dark Devil Auto - Day 22

She catches my heart strings every morning as I pull the curtain back. This elegant and graceful toddler, just coming into full childhood.

The lifespans of autos is so accelerated, we'll blink and she'll be drawing up to harvest, so I like to soak in these early moments of discovery and potential.

A nice profile, eh? Three nicely spaced nodes, working on that fourth. I like the spacing of these nodes. Great light.

A close-up at the leaf explosion building. Sweet.

The humidity is staying at a steady 60-65% and temps are ranging between 61-79 degrees F. I cannot say enough how impressed I am with this Dorm Gro G8. Fabulous spectrum, no problems with heat at all, quiet as it can be. Thank you Doc, and thank you Dorm Gro for making it like new. I am humbled by the outpouring of support.

Some parting shots in the pink glo. These colors translate much deeper when uploaded.

The artist in me is really drawn to shots like this. She looks to me like a ballerina, poised for her cue.

What a beauty.

The pot got a quarter turn. No water in the reservoirs today. I tell you, I'm liking this SWICK more every day.

On with my day. I'm heading out early to treat Dale to McDonald's breakfast and Starbuck's coffee. Cooked buds are in the bag. I haven't made the attempt to get over there this early in a while. He misses it. I'm finding that the longer he's gone from home the more I feel like a young girl in love again.

Wasn't expecting that after 34 years. Not a bad thing at all.

Have a wonderful day. I really mean that. Embrace the hidden beauty that often gets overlooked. Spread that joy liberally.



(Hits "Submit Reply" as the bus doors open. No posting addiction here, eh? )

 

[Amadeus Forzin]

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Sue she's gorgeous

 

[GhettoGro]

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random thoughts


Our daughter is 32, coming up quickly on 33. She has an anxiety disorder so pronounced that she won a bench decision on her Disability claim within ten minutes in the judge's presence. She has battled this anxiety from birth, and masked it so well that we didn't realize it until she attempted suicide at the age of 21.

I've spent hours with her, talking it out, both of us trying to make sense of it and help make her life better. Recently we convinced her to try cannabis. It worked (of course!) and now she has the dilemma of conquering her fear that she's consuming too much of our stash. Poor kid. Can't win the race.

She had her first ever taste of what it feels like to be free of anxiety, or if not free, unburdened from the concern about it.

Then she had a panic attack while buzzed. She'd taken extra as a celebration. For the first 15 minutes she dealt with it, then she wisely called me and I went over and stayed real close for the remaining 15 minutes. When the attack passed she immediately recovered, physically drained but clearer in mind than previous panic attacks.

Panic attacks are unplanned, unexpected and overwhelmingly debilitating. I was unaware someone could have one while buzzed. It scared the crap out of her. Now she hesitates to continue consuming cannabis for fear of a repeat event. (Weary Sigh).

Can't win for losing. Nope! Don't accept that. I need to explore thinking of cannabis as a vegetable. I'm becoming more and more convinced that there is something significant going on when you ingest this plant. Not just the extracted oils or combusted flowers, but the plant matter itself. Dale and I have been eating cooked buds, and suddenly I'm beginning to notice subtle changes that I'm not sure yet aren't imagined. If I continue to notice or they become more pronounced I will report on it further.

Anyone else out there ever witness someone's having a panic attack while high? Not too high, just slightly buzzed. Our daughter wants relief without the buzz, at least most of the time. I think she believes she's the only one out there this has happened to. I know that can't be true.

Time for bed. Any takers on a pool as to how long it takes me to actually sign off and walk away?

I can relate to and understand this. I have always suffered from stress, depression and anxiety. I have always had "social anxieties", which most would interpret as shyness. I have played music professionally for over 30 years now. I can be the most entertaining and outgoing person on the stage as I feel there is safety in numbers/groups. But, when I get one-on-one with a person is when I can just freak out thinking they are seeing inside me and seeing my fears and insecurities. For many years I turned to alcohol and other drugs to mask this problem. Alcohol would bring me out of my shell, but would also land me in jail. It became a vicious cycle.

After therapy, treatments and a 12 step program I started getting my shit together, but I realized that cannabis was a natural and very convincing solution. I can smoke a strong sativa or a plant that was taken to early and go into a full-blown panic attack. Paranoia.

I grow mostly indica and I let the trichs turn amber to at least 30% and it will calm me and help me sleep. Everyone has a different system and reaction to weed. This is just my experience.

Maybe consider growing a good Indica and let it go to amber and see if it help your daughter. Hey, you might like a little nighty-night weed yourself on occassion.

Peace Sue. Keep up the good work you are doing.

~GG

 

[Radogast]

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sue,

I had literal tons of tree (trunk, branches and leaves) fall on my closest acre last year. I believe this feeds the soil fertility, but not as fast as chipped trees.

My outdoor grow is light limited (shady) but once seeds germinate they grew as expected.

The lady gardener down the lane reports the previous owner employed a monthly lawn service. I believe they poured a huge amount of pre-emergent herbicide alongside lawn fertilizer. I was digging all summer without seeing worms. When I did my bulb planting last fall, I could barely make a hole without uncovering an earthworm. My hope is most of the chemical garbage poured into the soil over the last decade had been flushed out of the soil and the soil foods web is recovering.

 

[Major PITA]

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Panic attacks from smoking herb were a major feature of my life for too many years to embarrass myself by admitting. Mostly a result of over consumption because I am very sensitive to it and really have to be careful. I think Waaay too much already, and over smoking can make me second guess everything I'm doing and thinking to the point of complete panic. At an amazingly slow rate, over the years I've learned to smoke more lightly than my friends and choose the context more carefully. Also edibles and extracts work better for me, and sativas. I can absolutely 100% relate to feeling panicky after smoking, Sue.
On the spur of the moment the other night I was going to drop in and send my love, but walked into some crazy shitstorm on your thread, got confused and fled. Ha ha. Anyway....

Same here. I have to be careful with consumption - especially sativas. I also had a friend who would get PA's after smoking. It led both of us to stop smoking for a long time. It was no longer pleasurable. In fact, these days I only consume for pain and insomnia treatment. I actually don't enjoy feeling stupid and unable to focus, which are the typical effects for me. I'm looking forward to juicing once I get enough produce. Rather than develop a tolerance over the years (I was a heavy daily smoker for many years), I seemed to have developed a sensitivity. The good news is a single zip now lasts me a long time.

As to wood chips, one of our better local organic media is ancient sawdust. It is cheap, offers excellent PH and some buffering, while adding a little 'N'. It is a great addition to a soil mix.

 

[B A R]

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I'd like to go back a few pages & comment on something we read often here on 420.

I never feed my plants, never PH anything, and never flush my containers before harvest, and have seen a deficiency on any of my plants ever. 100% truth. Nothing for sale. I just got irked a while back at the accepted normal way of growing cannabis and made it a goal of mine to share this with others, free of charge.

Mind you, the following comments are my personal opinion:
As Organics stated, he along with a few others never adjust their PH levels & grow healthy plants. I contribute this to the water supply that each grower uses. For instance, if you use tap water, no fast acting chemical nutes, & the PH level in your region is within range for your type of medium where no nutrients get locked out you won't need to adjust, NEVER! If you grow in exactly the same medium using the exact same method as another grower but the PH levels in your region are different the odds of you having the same results are slim to none.

Which brings me to my 2nd point;
I've found that once we're growing in a good soil that doesn't call for a lot of this or that flushing becomes irrelevant. This is from my own experience. Before we started using PJ's Organic Soil Mix we were adding all kinds of mess to our feeds and if we didn't flush our plants properly they would burn funny & have all types of weird tastes. Now I don't really flush & can actually taste the different flavors of smoke better.

As I said, these statements are my opinion & not written in stone so any argumentative replies are encouraged.

 

[SweetSue]

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I'd like to go back a few pages & comment on something we read often here on 420.Mind you, the following comments are my personal opinion:
As Organics stated, he along with a few others never adjust their PH levels & grow healthy plants. I contribute this to the water supply that each grower uses. For instance, if you use tap water, no fast acting chemical nutes, & the PH level in your region is within range for your type of medium where no nutrients get locked out you won't need to adjust, NEVER! If you grow in exactly the same medium using the exact same method as another grower but the PH levels in your region are different the odds of you having the same results are slim to none.

Which brings me to my 2nd point;
I've found that once we're growing in a good soil that doesn't call for a lot of this or that flushing becomes irrelevant. This is from my own experience. Before we started using PJ's Organic Soil Mix we were adding all kinds of mess to our feeds and if we didn't flush our plants properly they would burn funny & have all types of weird tastes. Now I don't really flush & can actually taste the different flavors of smoke better.

As I said, these statements are my opinion & not written in stone so any argumentative replies are encouraged.

I'd like to go back a few pages & comment on something we read often here on 420.Mind you, the following comments are my personal opinion:
As Organics stated, he along with a few others never adjust their PH levels & grow healthy plants. I contribute this to the water supply that each grower uses. For instance, if you use tap water, no fast acting chemical nutes, & the PH level in your region is within range for your type of medium where no nutrients get locked out you won't need to adjust, NEVER! If you grow in exactly the same medium using the exact same method as another grower but the PH levels in your region are different the odds of you having the same results are slim to none.

Which brings me to my 2nd point;
I've found that once we're growing in a good soil that doesn't call for a lot of this or that flushing becomes irrelevant. This is from my own experience. Before we started using PJ's Organic Soil Mix we were adding all kinds of mess to our feeds and if we didn't flush our plants properly they would burn funny & have all types of weird tastes. Now I don't really flush & can actually taste the different flavors of smoke better.

As I said, these statements are my opinion & not written in stone so any argumentative replies are encouraged.

I have no experience in any other soil than LOS. I don't add any nutrients other than the enzyme teas and aloe/ coconut drenches. These two additions also include Kelp meal, fulvic and humic acids in turn. No deficiencies, no flushing, superior potency and expression of terpenes.

I have great respect for PeeJay's soil mix and highly recommend it as a step in the direction of a full-fledged and vigorous LOS. Even if you never make that switch you will have made your plants very happy with PeeJay's mix. This was the soil mix that actually led me to LOS. Just as I was getting ready to order the supplies to mix my first batch I stumbled upon COorganics in PeeJay's room. The rest is history.

 

[B A R]

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Thanxx Sue. My post wasn't a plug for PJ's Soil mix but more for what I think about when folks say they don't need to adjust they're PH levels. I may be wrong but if this chart is correct it's the only explanation in my opinion & if so that could mislead a lot of growers with very high or low PH levels into thinking "that since so & so doesn't have to adjust using such & such I don't have to either". No dis-respect to Organics.

 

[SweetSue]

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Thanxx Sue. My post wasn't a plug for PJ's Soil mix but more for what I think about when folks say they don't need to adjust they're PH levels. I may be wrong but if this chart is correct it's the only explanation in my opinion & if so that could mislead a lot of growers with very high or low PH levels into thinking "that since so & so doesn't have to adjust using such & such I don't have to either". No dis-respect to Organics.

No disrespect taken. With LOS there simply is no need to PH. The living soil community keeps everything on an even keel from start to finish. If you're not using a living organic soil, I strongly suggest you do PH. Although I personally have no experience with adjusting PH, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the practice.

 

[B A R]

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Granted. Do you have any idea what your PH level is before feeding or drenching? it may already be within range which is my whole point

 

[B A R]

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Also I noticed awhile back when looking up the PH levels in NYC that most of the water supplies in cities in the US are between 6 & 7. Ours is well above 7. Not saying that everyone is using tap but we do and this is why we lower our levels.

 

[36Gr0w]

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Bar, if growing organically, the soil should have something acting as a liming agent, keeping the ph in check. There is no need to ph feed water, as we aren't needing it to be directly taken up by the roots. As far as flushing, all that's doing is messing with the soil, and giving the plant no new nutrition. Growing organically, the plant still receives the nutrition it wants, growing healthier longer into its flower cycle.

 

[SweetSue]

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Granted. Do you have any idea what your PH level is before feeding or drenching? it may already be within range which is my whole point

Never even bought a meter. The plants never skipped a beat. It's the soil. There's ample science to back up the lack of necessity to PH when you have an active soil food web working on your behalf. I believe the problem you ran into may have had more to do with pot size Reg. A well-balanced LOS needs the soil volume to function properly, and as far as I can see that means a 3 gallon minimum. You do amazing things with your 2 liters. I'm always in awe of your grow. That woman of your is talented.

 

[B A R]

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So what you twos are saying that if your using a water supply with as high as an 8 PH level it wouldn't matter because of this liming agent & even if it doesn't balance out it won't matter because the plant isn't feeding through the roots? The problems I was going through were before we went strictly with 2lts & before using PJ's OSM but since switching we've never stopped adjusting our PH levels

 

[Doc Bud]

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Thanxx Sue. My post wasn't a plug for PJ's Soil mix but more for what I think about when folks say they don't need to adjust they're PH levels. I may be wrong but if this chart is correct it's the only explanation in my opinion & if so that could mislead a lot of growers with very high or low PH levels into thinking "that since so & so doesn't have to adjust using such & such I don't have to either". No dis-respect to Organics.

I believe I can add something here that will clear up the confusion.

As someone who hasn't checked pH, let alone adjusted it, for the last 3-4 years now, and as someone who understands a bit about soils, here are the facts. This isn't my opinion....these are facts and I can back them up.

1. charts that show nutrient availability at different soil pH like the one above are based on NPK, sterile soil, corporate salt farming science. (yes it is science.) In sterile soil, barring other factors (see number 2 below) these charts are accurate and correct.

2. The "other factors" that are often forgotten is that soil itself is a powerful buffer. In a properly designed soil, like almost every commercial potting soil out there, the soil is pH balanced, usually with Dolomite and/or limestone. What this means is that even if you water with pH 3....the buffering ability of the soil will bring the pH back into range. It takes many gallons of water....hundreds of gallons....to alter the pH of a decent soil. So, most soil growers do not need to pH at all, even if they're using hydro nutes in the soil.

3. When talking about a biologically active soil, where root systems are colonized and healthy, pH becomes even more meaningless because the "critters" in the soil excrete humic and fulvic acids all the time in order to release minerals from the soil and feed the plant. They make subtle pH changes as needed, depending on what they're trying to "eat." The biota adjust pH automatically, in real-time, and they don't use phosphoric acid or sodium hydroxide to do it! They use humic and fulvic acid......24/7.

So, to summarize, there is no good reason to pH water in a decent soil grow.

However, there are two good reasons to NOT adjust pH in a decent soil grow:

excess phosphorus from pH down....excess sodium and/or potassium from pH up.....both of these will hurt CEC and produce less healthy plants.

Hydro is completely different! There is no biota and no buffers, so getting the pH right is critical.

 

[Doc Bud]

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So what you twos are saying that if your using a water supply with as high as an 8 PH level it wouldn't matter because of this liming agent & even if it doesn't balance out it won't matter because the plant isn't feeding through the roots? The problems I was going through were before we went strictly with 2lts & before using PJ's OSM but since switching we've never stopped adjusting our PH levels

I tested my water yesterday.....pH 9.5. Am I worried? Nope.

 

[B A R]

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I believe I can add something here that will clear up the confusion.

You're the man Doc! That's an explanation that makes sense to me. This is why I brought this up; to understand not to knock anyone.

 

[SweetSue]

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You're the man Doc! That's an explanation that makes sense to me. This is why I brought this up; to understand not to knock anyone.

Thank you for bringing it up Reg. It increased the research value of these pages. What a wonderful laboratory this community can become.

 

[Doc Bud]

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You're the man Doc! That's an explanation that makes sense to me. This is why I brought this up; to understand not to knock anyone.

It's part of the panoply of cannabis mythology! You're not the only one who is confused by this stuff.

If you're growing in perlite or hydroton clay....pH is critical as both of those mediums have no real buffering ability.

Coco.....I don't go there.

Peatmoss: often has a pH of 3-4....needs to be buffered with limestone. No amount of pH-up in the feedwater will compensate for the acidity of the peat....limestone must be added. After this is done, no amount of pH up or down will change the pH of the soil.

However, there is something about water that we should all understand:

Total Alkalinity. (TA)

This is a measurement that shows how much sulfuric acid must be added to water to lower the pH to 4.5. This measurement is expressed as mg/l CaC03. Most of the buffering capacity in water is due to CaC03....not all, but most. Calcium Carbonate is used because it indicates how much CaCo3 must be added to pure water to produce the TA being measured, even though perhaps 5-6% of the TA is not due to CaC03.

TA should be kept below 200. Optimal levels are around 50-100.

While pH is meaningless, TA is not. If your water has very high TA, bicarbonates will form in the soil and everything will get screwed up and nothing will work right.

For the record, everyone who has listened to my advice to stop pHing has been pleased with the results. If you're in soil, I strongly encourage you to cease the practice.