SweetSue's Perpetual 2.0 - The Transition To Doc Bud's HBB Kit

DeVille said:
I really like your setups Sue. It seems practical to have so many grow-spaces. I have 3 grow-spaces myself. I have the homemade growroom. That's a room I put grow-film on the walls to reflect the light, I built a frame 100x180x190 cm and I put two 800 watt LED over it. Then I have a tent, 120x120x200 cm. I have 4 200 watt LED lamps in that one. Then I have a small tent 80x80x160 cm with a 400 watt LED.

I use the small tent for vegging. I have around 20 plants in there now. Then I have used the two tents for both vegg and bloom. But I am thinking the way I am doing it - I'm not making the best use of my resources. I need to figure out a way to use my spaces in a way that allows me to make the most of it both yield-wise and when it comes to energy saving. It's very important to me to leave as small as possible footprint on this plantet. I don't want to hurt mother earth with my hobbies.

Am thinking about using a small closet for cloning to free up the tiny tent a little. Then I could use that for vegg and the two other tents for bloom? Then I could harvest aprox once per month. Am extremely open for ideas when it comes to how to make the most out of what I have
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Good morning DeVille. Yes, it is a challenge. If you count the floor in front of the tiny closet as my cloning area, I really have five spaces running. :laughtwo:

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It just so happens that this is the perfect distance from the lights. Lol!

It's an ongoing evolutionary process. So far I've grown in every space but my kitchen. :laughtwo: And as we all know, better than 50% of the kitchen space is devoted to the grow anyway. Lol! This whole apartment is my grow space, and I keep a space to sleep. Hahaha!

This 5 area arrangement feels like the best fit. A clone area, a veg shelf, an area devoted to autos and the occasional outlier photo, and two tents for flowering, one for the first month, and one for the finish. The plants are catching on faster than I am, I think. It's taken me over two years to get to this comfort level, but the flow was worth the effort. Before year's end I'll have it working more smoothly.

My goal this year was to get environment under control. That's turning out to be my greatest challenge. This morning I remembered the air conditioner and the finish tent is resting at a comfortable 82 degrees. :slide: Maybe I'm finally catching on here. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Good morning everyone :Love:

Our region gets a reprieve from the relentless heat and humidity today. Although humidity will likely still tick up, temps should be much more bearable. May that play out as nicely in your backyard.

Wandering through the garden this morn I noticed that Devil's Carnival hasn't made her typical mad rush to the ceiling.

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Still waiting for more droop than this before I water her next. The pot still weighs too much to be tempted to try anytime soon.

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She's standing a little crooked too, despite the rod next to her, so I attached a Velcro strap to the pole and straightened her up a smidge.

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Better. :battingeyelashes:

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Trying my best to slow the top growth and allow the side branches to catch up. Next seed I'll train better from a young age.

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Alright my friends, you know the drill. Get out there and share that joy I know you feel beginning to bubble over. Let your personal atmosphere crackle with the wonder of a cosmic child. Watch the world change around you to a softer and kinder place because you choose to view it without the judgements that cause frustration.

It's a wonderful universe, filled with the excitement of creation. I'm so humbled that I get the pleasure of your love and support to bolster my own journey. Thank you for caring enough to include me in your lives.

Now get get out there and have some fun. :laughtwo:
 
Hey Sue I know you won't mind and I want to put this here because so many people stop by your thread (me included)!

It's Cho's natural farming, the Bible on KNF. It has all the recipes inside like LAB (which I. Remember you making for your no till)

It's a PDF so easy to read and save. I want to see what KNF can do for Docs kit. Much love I am drinking bulletproof Canna coffee with harvest coconut oil this morning.

https://ilcasia.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/chos-global-natural-farming-sarra.pdf
 
ShiggityFlip said:
Hey Sue I know you won't mind and I want to put this here because so many people stop by your thread (me included)!

It's Cho's natural farming, the Bible on KNF. It has all the recipes inside like LAB (which I. Remember you making for your no till)

It's a PDF so easy to read and save. I want to see what KNF can do for Docs kit. Much love I am drinking bulletproof Canna coffee with harvest coconut oil this morning.

https://ilcasia.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/chos-global-natural-farming-sarra.pdf
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Thank you Shiggity. I saw you left one at AKgrammas, and figured I might be the next stop. :battingeyelashes: An excellent resource. :hugs: :Love:
 
Graytail said:
RE: Sleep

It's primarily the deep REM sleep that we need. It's less than an hour but it's hard for many people to get there easily. We have to have some time to fall into it, and subconscious thoughts delay it. During that time there are also many metabolic processes going on, like muscle growth and repair, which cause heat flashes and muscle twitching, etc.

If you can get a couple hours of solid uninterrupted sleep that includes REM, that should satisfy the basics. It's getting to REM that takes so long. That's the trick people who only sleep 4 hours use - they get to REM smoothly and quickly.
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And if you don't get enough sleep your body will REM while you are awake! This is one of the causes of highway hypnosis. You are driving and awake but in R.E.M. That's pretty damn scary.

I guess it's like when plants on 24 hour veg will still droop to "sleep".
 
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Lmao!
 
My daughter found it and sent me the link. She thought it appropriate. LMAO!
 
She has a great sense of humor! Love it!
 
New Arrival :yahoo: :slide: :yahoo:

And how incredibly cool are these little tools?

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A bit of light to soften the trauma of traveling in a darkened box.

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With a switch. How f'n cool!

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Welcome my latest addition, a gift from a cherished member. My first in what I hope is a long line of Malawi genetics. :hugs: :Love:

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No worse for wear. She's safely potted in a gallon of Doc's kit soil, and how wonderful to know our soils match closely enough that there should be no shock. :cheesygrinsmiley:

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The bin I pulled the soil from is definately active. Lol! This is what you want to see when you open your soil for use. :blunt:

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For today she'll sit off on her own, close enough to the indoor sun to feel comfortable, but not so close as to frighten or overwhelm her. Tonight I'll give her a gentle spray with DeStress when I hit the rest of the crew.

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*contented sigh*. My first ACE genetics. I feel like I'm growing up. :battingeyelashes: :green_heart:
 
SweetSue said:
New Arrival :yahoo: :slide: :yahoo:

And how incredibly cool are these little tools?

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OK These need to be common products for us...a really neat way for us to share the awesome that we see every day. I see a collective happening :)


EDIT: Just grabbed 6 from the river...happy to send off 5 with or without passengers to kick this pig :)
 
mouser said:
OK These need to be common products for us...a really neat way for us to share the awesome that we see every day. I see a collective happening :)


EDIT: Just grabbed 6 from the river...happy to send off 5 with or without passengers to kick this pig :)
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Yes!! I've been looking at those as well, but for use down the road a piece.

My only suggestion would be to do all possible to ensure that those involved are committed to being upfront and honest. The last thing any of us need is having molds and pests transported into our environment. I've had WPM and even as I'd have liked to share some clones, I can't until I clean my environment, start from seed, and make it though an entire grow before having the confidence that I'm sharing truly healthy plants.
 
neikodog said:
I don't keep mothers. I clone the plant before I flip it. I don't have room to keep big veg plants long term. If she wants to keep it under 6' tall she needs to flip it at the point it's root bound in that pot.
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I'm doing the same. As far as root bound, I believe re-potting is more important than one would think considering the little attention given the subject. In soil, and in my limited experience, graduating pot size is important to keep the roots in steady growth while maintaining control over the soil moisture levels the plants thrive in.

If this is done properly, the plants will go into their final flowering pot(one size larger) a week or two before flower. Then, by the time they stretch the plant will be ready to move energy from root growth to stretch and flower and roots will run throughout pot but not bound so tightly that they compete for available moisture and nutes.

First pot: a solo cup or other small pot. While the roots are still young and growing, they don't use much water.

Second pot: once they need water ever 3 days, it's time to triple or quadruple the size/volume of soil.

Third pot: soil should be well saturated when transplanted and u till roots stretch out it will remain moist for up to a week. Again, once they need water every three days it's time to transplant again. Next put into 3 to 4 gallon pot.

Fourth pot: and once again, when they need water every 3 days, transplant into final pot... 5 to 7 gallon.

This of course all varies depending on space limitations and size of plant desired. But I think as general rule it still applies. One would lessen the number of pots rather than the step up in size of pots.

I believe that a root bound plant will have a tendency to grow in spurts rather than steady growth. It never really has a chance to get a groove on! Compact roots quickly draw moisture out of soil resulting in short term growth spurts. When they have spread in a regular incremental way... in a consistent reaching for moisture and space, moisture is draw from soil more evenly resulting in a steady growth pattern.

Just my thoughts on the subject... I'm always open to having my thinking challenged. When ya stop learning yer dead!
 
But Doc grows ridiculously rootbound plants in 2 gallon pots! Then he upcans and flips at the same time. I think that controls stretch. I tend to upcan much earlier and veg longer in the big pots.

Docs plants always do better than mine. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
kelticBlue said:
I am addicted to ACE seeds. I love their approach to old school and landrace preservation.
Very happy for you. Have fun.
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Thank you keltic. :hugs: I'm soooo excited!!! :laughtwo:

Tead said:
Those dirty bums stole my idea!!!
From way many years ago....
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You moved too slow on that idea my friend. :battingeyelashes: :Love:

neikodog said:
I don't keep mothers. I clone the plant before I flip it. I don't have room to keep big veg plants long term. If she wants to keep it under 6' tall she needs to flip it at the point it's root bound in that pot.
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Duly noted. Do you think she can be trained low?

Randoobula said:
I'm doing the same. As far as root bound, I believe re-potting is more important than one would think considering the little attention given the subject. In soil, and in my limited experience, graduating pot size is important to keep the roots in steady growth while maintaining control over the soil moisture levels the plants thrive in.

If this is done properly, the plants will go into their final flowering pot(one size larger) a week or two before flower. Then, by the time they stretch the plant will be ready to move energy from root growth to stretch and flower and roots will run throughout pot but not bound so tightly that they compete for available moisture and nutes.

First pot: a solo cup or other small pot. While the roots are still young and growing, they don't use much water.

Second pot: once they need water ever 3 days, it's time to triple or quadruple the size/volume of soil.

Third pot: soil should be well saturated when transplanted and u till roots stretch out it will remain moist for up to a week. Again, once they need water every three days it's time to transplant again. Next put into 3 to 4 gallon pot.

Fourth pot: and once again, when they need water every 3 days, transplant into final pot... 5 to 7 gallon.

This of course all varies depending on space limitations and size of plant desired. But I think as general rule it still applies. One would lessen the number of pots rather than the step up in size of pots.

I believe that a root bound plant will have a tendency to grow in spurts rather than steady growth. It never really has a chance to get a groove on! Compact roots quickly draw moisture out of soil resulting in short term growth spurts. When they have spread in a regular incremental way... in a consistent reaching for moisture and space, moisture is draw from soil more evenly resulting in a steady growth pattern.

Just my thoughts on the subject... I'm always open to having my thinking challenged. When ya stop learning yer dead!
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Randy, that was an excellent write-up on the way it's successfully done in many grows. I have never followed that plan. I start in a one gallon and go from there directly into the finish pot, veg until a space opens in the flowering tent and then flip them and sit back to watch the show.

I always figured the fewer times I had to disturb the soil the better. With LOS I planted directly into the finish pot and let them ride. I'm a real lazy gardener. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Graytail said:
But Doc grows ridiculously rootbound plants in 2 gallon pots! Then he upcans and flips at the same time. I think that controls stretch. I tend to upcan much earlier and veg longer in the big pots.

Docs plants always do better than mine. :cheesygrinsmiley:
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Mine too. Go figure. :rofl:
 
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