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Still fighting with pc and finally,,just maybe .. it is fixed. Came here to say hi and test it
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SweetSue's Cannabis Oil Study Hall
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I always found a 1\4 -1\2 drop from a heavy indica such as bubba kush , sour kush aka headband , granddaddy purple etc.. very good for anxiety ,ptsd etc... dosage is so important, seems like the majority of people always take just a little to much, such a fine line from feeling " just right" to feeling agitated.
So... assuming some day I get to the point where I find the right product and make an oil - how do I take a portion of a drop? I have a feeling that being able to control it that much will be very helpful for me.
I've had really bad anxiety the last two days, so I'm more motivated than ever. I just wish there was a ready-made product/products or simply better access. I'm so incredibly new to this, it's just overwhelming. In the long run - this is good - I love the idea of having control over product, method and amount... but as a total beginner - gheesh. AAAAND part of my anxiety is driving AND severe motion sickness as a passenger - so driving all over the region is not a fun idea. I'll get there, though
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So... assuming some day I get to the point where I find the right product and make an oil - how do I take a portion of a drop? I have a feeling that being able to control it that much will be very helpful for me.
I've had really bad anxiety the last two days, so I'm more motivated than ever. I just wish there was a ready-made product/products or simply better access. I'm so incredibly new to this, it's just overwhelming. In the long run - this is good - I love the idea of having control over product, method and amount... but as a total beginner - gheesh. AAAAND part of my anxiety is driving AND severe motion sickness as a passenger - so driving all over the region is not a fun idea. I'll get there, though
When you get to the point when you're ready to do oil, might I suggest you go with an olive oil extraction and try capsules? The olive oil plays a big part in the therapeutic value of the capsules. I've learned that edibles aren't suggested for anxiety, but I've had the opposite occur with my daughter, and also with my walking buddy with ADHD irritability. In both cases their anxiety levels have come under control through a steady regimine of CBD-dominant capsules.
To make such an oil extraction you only need standard kitchen tools and a supply of olive oil, cannabis flower parts and liquid sunflower lecithin. The process can take anywhere from a few hours to my favorite 36-hour long-bake process, and you're set to go within a day of getting the oil made.
In fact, I have a 36-hour batch going right now with my Dark Devil Auto.
CajunCelt
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There are very few reasons to take CBD only even for general health.
A few might be MS & the like but even THC blended in has been shown to work lots better.
For serious & chronic diseases, a high THC combined with very small amounts of CBD is the proven route.
If you are looking for a pure CBD for some reason like to mix with a high THC, I would recommend Boulder Botanicals in CO.
This company is putting out strains & concentrates comparable to Charlotte's Web & the other hard to find & extremely expensive high CBD strains.
A few might be MS & the like but even THC blended in has been shown to work lots better.
For serious & chronic diseases, a high THC combined with very small amounts of CBD is the proven route.
If you are looking for a pure CBD for some reason like to mix with a high THC, I would recommend Boulder Botanicals in CO.
This company is putting out strains & concentrates comparable to Charlotte's Web & the other hard to find & extremely expensive high CBD strains.
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What would you personally classify as "serious and chronic diseases?" Cancer springs initially to mind, but I'm curious as to what others would benefit from high THC and minimal CBD. There's this big push I've noticed for CBD to be the dominant pathway into cannabinoid therapies. I'm not sure I'm entirely comfortable with this development.
So... assuming some day I get to the point where I find the right product and make an oil - how do I take a portion of a drop? I have a feeling that being able to control it that much will be very helpful for me.
I've had really bad anxiety the last two days, so I'm more motivated than ever. I just wish there was a ready-made product/products or simply better access. I'm so incredibly new to this, it's just overwhelming. In the long run - this is good - I love the idea of having control over product, method and amount... but as a total beginner - gheesh. AAAAND part of my anxiety is driving AND severe motion sickness as a passenger - so driving all over the region is not a fun idea. I'll get there, though
As far as a drop concerns , consistency of the oil will determine the size and weight of a drop( ex: how warm you have your oil before you put through your syringe) if the oil is not properly warmed the drop will be much bigger. I usually place a drop on a plate then use a toothpick to judge a 1\4 of that drop. Be patient and start off small , in a few days you will figure what works for you i am sure. IMO i would stay away from the "BIOBOMB" if you have anxiety issues since the Effects can be somewhat inconsistent at times.
CajunCelt
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Glioma, fibermialga, crohns, hep C, aids....
The push for CBD is not new. It's been going on for many moons. The biggest reason is that it is legal in 50 states & a big money maker.
Most all live case studies have shown the synergistic effects of ALL cannabinoids is best. Pure CBD can be obtained from hemp, not just marijuana, but contains very very little, if any, other cannabinoids.
The Bio Bomb can be used be beginners from Day 1. If your feeling to much psycoactivity, adjust the dosage ratio. At 50:1 (carrier oil: CCO) you will feel almost nothing.
Most patients who are already using cannabis (smoking, vaping, edibles, etc) can usually be very comfortable at a 20:1 ratio.
Also mixing in a high CBD strain with the THC, then adding the carrier oil will help the psychoactivity a bunch.
Sorry, but I see lil old grannies every single day dropping the Bio Bomb from day 1 with no problems at all.
If it ain't working right, you ain't doing right....
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I'm in total agreement here Cajun. Full plant extractions retaining as many of the components as possible. I feel like the push for CBD was done as a foot in the door, but no one took into consideration the chance that it would become a restrictive thing, with states allowing only CBD. Another hump we have to maneuver over or around.
This mixing of strains is something I need to be more attentive of. This is feeling more and more like my next line of focus. That's a lot of study on terpenes ahead.
Ahhhhh....... It keeps me young.
This mixing of strains is something I need to be more attentive of. This is feeling more and more like my next line of focus. That's a lot of study on terpenes ahead.
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I'm waiting to take my next Dark Devil in a couple weeks before I make more CCO. I'm taking my last 5:1 capsule today. *sigh* This isn't supposed to happen in my world.
I actually prefer the edge of the 5:1 now. This is my baseline, the point from which I start the day.
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Carnival: Day 93 (flip + 13)
Recently a member shared with me his use of leaves from Carnival, harvested at about the two week mark in flowering, to make a carrier oil infusion that helped him with treating ADD. A dose of this particular oil helped keep him focused for up to 4-5 hours.
One of my walking buddies is a woman in her early 70s who just learned that the problem she's had communicating with others all her life has been tied to her having ADD and the fact that no one bothered to diagnose it. With knowledge comes power, and this woman's determined to find a way to interact with others without sacrificing who she is.
So we started exploring a cannabinoid therapy. The CBD Critical Cure capsules I've made for myself and my daughter serve her well as evening/bedtime meds, giving her the first consistent sound sleep she's had in decades, but they don't do well for daytime. So I've worked up a ratio a bit higher in THC, and that's done well for her. Today I realized I have the prime opportunity to make a specialized oil for her, an oil that matched my other friend's identical need with the same plant, at the same developmental stage and growing in the same soil. Tomorrow I'll do a quick defoliation and see what I get. I have some immature leaves in the freezer that could be pressed into use for a more varied entourage profile.
I'm excited about the possibility that this could work for her. Which leads me to why I stopped here in the first place.
I just returned from my yearly check-up and visit with my PCP. I have the utmost respect for this man. He's been my rock for over 15 years of running as fast as I could to keep Dale alive. He's a caring and thoughtful doctor, always ahead of the game.
Today, when I encouraged him to get someone in his staff educated about the medicinal uses of cannabis he informed me that he doesn't intend to prescribe cannabis because he doesn't want to introduce "that element" into his practice. In his words "there'll be too many people who just want to get high."
When he left the room I went over to stand in the corner and cry quietly while I waited for the flu shot. The utter shock of realization that the battle is so much larger than I'd allowed myself to accept. That intelligent men like this one I trust with my life and the lives of my loved ones could be so closed to the benefits of cannabis because we're so conditioned to think of the euphoria as something to be feared, disapproved of, restricted, controlled. Good God, what are they all so afraid of?
I'd calmly explained that his fear of a little euphoria meant that people like me are forced into the role of medicine woman with little or no training, and that euphoria was very controllable. It occurs to me that ignoring the wide range of medicinal applications available with cannabis because you haven't taken the time to train yourself on administration to control euphoria is counter productive and will cause unnecessary pain and suffering to continue. No, I didn't share that thought with him. Condescension doesn't often play well in negotiations.
As I stood crying in that corner a part of me wanted to quit right there. To face the fact that the job ahead won't always be the joyful dance I hope it will. That the frustration will often be oppressive and do I really want to dig myself out of this over and over and over again for the rest of my life - because almost a century of propaganda is a heavy weight to move - do I really think I have the strength to keep doing this day after day?
Then I went into the waiting area to meet my dear walking buddy, you remember her, back at the beginning? This dear woman who put her day on hold to drive me to this appointment so I didn't have to travel by bus in the rain, and I realized that my only reaction had to be resolve. I do what I do for her, for my daughter, for all of you and all those who never speak up but come here looking for some understanding and hope.
No way will I back down and be quiet. No way do I stop learning and sharing what I learn. It's disconcerting that the bulk of the medical profession has chosen to put on blinders and continue to buy into the propaganda. It's their choice. I'm gonna keep working on the healing.
Ok, I'm stepping down off the soapbox now. Thanks for listening.
Carnival: Day 93 (flip + 13)
Recently a member shared with me his use of leaves from Carnival, harvested at about the two week mark in flowering, to make a carrier oil infusion that helped him with treating ADD. A dose of this particular oil helped keep him focused for up to 4-5 hours.
One of my walking buddies is a woman in her early 70s who just learned that the problem she's had communicating with others all her life has been tied to her having ADD and the fact that no one bothered to diagnose it. With knowledge comes power, and this woman's determined to find a way to interact with others without sacrificing who she is.
So we started exploring a cannabinoid therapy. The CBD Critical Cure capsules I've made for myself and my daughter serve her well as evening/bedtime meds, giving her the first consistent sound sleep she's had in decades, but they don't do well for daytime. So I've worked up a ratio a bit higher in THC, and that's done well for her. Today I realized I have the prime opportunity to make a specialized oil for her, an oil that matched my other friend's identical need with the same plant, at the same developmental stage and growing in the same soil. Tomorrow I'll do a quick defoliation and see what I get. I have some immature leaves in the freezer that could be pressed into use for a more varied entourage profile.
I'm excited about the possibility that this could work for her. Which leads me to why I stopped here in the first place.
I just returned from my yearly check-up and visit with my PCP. I have the utmost respect for this man. He's been my rock for over 15 years of running as fast as I could to keep Dale alive. He's a caring and thoughtful doctor, always ahead of the game.
Today, when I encouraged him to get someone in his staff educated about the medicinal uses of cannabis he informed me that he doesn't intend to prescribe cannabis because he doesn't want to introduce "that element" into his practice. In his words "there'll be too many people who just want to get high."
When he left the room I went over to stand in the corner and cry quietly while I waited for the flu shot. The utter shock of realization that the battle is so much larger than I'd allowed myself to accept. That intelligent men like this one I trust with my life and the lives of my loved ones could be so closed to the benefits of cannabis because we're so conditioned to think of the euphoria as something to be feared, disapproved of, restricted, controlled. Good God, what are they all so afraid of?
I'd calmly explained that his fear of a little euphoria meant that people like me are forced into the role of medicine woman with little or no training, and that euphoria was very controllable. It occurs to me that ignoring the wide range of medicinal applications available with cannabis because you haven't taken the time to train yourself on administration to control euphoria is counter productive and will cause unnecessary pain and suffering to continue. No, I didn't share that thought with him. Condescension doesn't often play well in negotiations.
As I stood crying in that corner a part of me wanted to quit right there. To face the fact that the job ahead won't always be the joyful dance I hope it will. That the frustration will often be oppressive and do I really want to dig myself out of this over and over and over again for the rest of my life - because almost a century of propaganda is a heavy weight to move - do I really think I have the strength to keep doing this day after day?
Then I went into the waiting area to meet my dear walking buddy, you remember her, back at the beginning? This dear woman who put her day on hold to drive me to this appointment so I didn't have to travel by bus in the rain, and I realized that my only reaction had to be resolve. I do what I do for her, for my daughter, for all of you and all those who never speak up but come here looking for some understanding and hope.
No way will I back down and be quiet. No way do I stop learning and sharing what I learn. It's disconcerting that the bulk of the medical profession has chosen to put on blinders and continue to buy into the propaganda. It's their choice. I'm gonna keep working on the healing.
Ok, I'm stepping down off the soapbox now. Thanks for listening.
Oh, Susan
I understand how you feel. This year has been beyond transformational regarding my working in politics and realizing that the weight is HUGE, MASSIVE and feels impossible. So much is just ingrained miles deep. But things change. They are changing. And you are helping. I feel traumatized by my work, actually, but I came to the same conclusion you did - you just have to do what you feel is better for the world.As somebody who's been trying/interested/benefitting from natural therapies for years, I know that it hurts to come across people who just disregard what you know to be helpful as crazy talk. Doctors... oh, the medical field in general. It's sad, for sure.
Katy Bowman talks sometimes about how she approaches her work. She says she just puts it out there so that the people who were meant to find, find it, but she gave does nothing to try convincing others because there is too much negativity and pushback. The people meant to find you will find you and you're already improving so many peoples' lives. Besides, you never know when something may happen to change your doctors' mind all on his own. It happens all the time
CajunCelt
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CajunCelt
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Oh, Susan
As somebody who's been trying/interested/benefitting from natural therapies for years, I know that it hurts to come across people who just disregard what you know to be helpful as crazy talk. Doctors... oh, the medical field in general. It's sad, for sure.
Katy Bowman talks sometimes about how she approaches her work. She says she just puts it out there so that the people who were meant to find, find it, but she gave does nothing to try convincing others because there is too much negativity and pushback. The people meant to find you will find you and you're already improving so many peoples' lives. Besides, you never know when something may happen to change your doctors' mind all on his own. It happens all the time
Awesome advice. Seriously.
Put the info out there. Those that are meant for it will find it. I too gave up many moons ago pushing knowledge onto the ignorant or close-minded.
Life's too short.
I moved here awhile back & have experienced most of the opinions of the residents.
Truth be told, Colorado is almost as ignorant as any other state. The exception are the dedicated pros in this industry.
But, of you walk into 95% of even "medical" only dispensaries, they don't have any more of a clue about cannabis as a medicine than Joe Blow on the street. They feel that anyone smoking weed is self medicating, hence... there's your medical value.
Very very few budtenders, growers or even dispensary owners have the slightest knowledge of cannabis oil & it's users. Very few have even heard of Rick Simpson. The doctors here Colorado aren't much different than anywhere else. Very little knowledge of cannabis as a true medicine.
The refreshing part is the 5% or so that are truly knowledgeable & dedicated to this knowledge. They are by far the top of line, but unfortunately the very few as well.
Budtenders in even a med only (as opposed to recreational/adult use) dispensary know the differences between sativas & indicas and use that information to recommend a strain or product. That really is about it.
It's sad but our generation's reality.
Even the very few dispensary employees that wasn't too learn info that is more aligned to what we discuss here on 420, still only learn very very little.
They usually get to Phoenix Tears, Run for the Cure & Rick Simpson... and then stop.
The organizations in the industry are more about cultivation issues, then medical properties cannabis. There are a few exceptions, but again, they are the exception to the rule.
Don't think for a second that because your are armed with the knowledge any of you have (including me) that you are going to change the way overcoming majority of people's minds.
I have trouble educating folks who actually use cannabis, much less physicians, clinicians & doctors.
Hell, I've trouble even here on 420! Lol.
Are we having fun yet?
Dave Groomer
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i personally have not tried one of my 5-1's.. the lady i was treating responded very well, unfortunately i cannot say that for a couple of childhood friends who sadly became addicted to pain meds( oxy,percocet etc..) i specifically cautioned them about the potential "buzz" if they wanted to try these for a pain alternative to the "Big Pharma Drug Dealers". I suggested them to take one half-gram capsule and wait to see when it takes hold, first thing my buddy said to me was " Well my back is really bothering me today so i better take 3!" Big mistake , he later told me it was the most intense and crazy buzz he had since his Acid days. They both vowed never to take them again so sadly they are back on the Pharma death pills.....Why i always go back to dosage being the key so it does not turn people off from it.
KingstonRabbi
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Sue, a year ago I was in favor of MMJ as paliative care and gradually accepting that it worked for a few other things, but didn't believe that it would actually treat cancer. I mean strongly felt it couldn't work like people were saying. (and in some cases online I was right, unfortunately, as we are all aware.) It wasn't until I started researching chemo treatments including phase 3 and 4 trials that I looked at MMJ closely. From that point it didn't take long for me to understand just how effective MMJ can be and why, and also why chemo currently available cannot work long term.
That brought me here, and with help from you and others I understand well enough to help others get started. When I started using MMJ I let people know and received comments like "that's interesting, good luck" but not a lot of confidence behind it. Now I'm getting calls from people, friends of friends, asking me about my experience and how to get started.
Everything you do helps to build awareness beyond what you can see, because it keeps spreading. A doctor is against adding MMJ to his practice today. But because you mentioned it next time he sees or hears something positive about it he'll pay more attention. He may not change his position, but he won't be as able to ignore or disregard the next positive report because a patient pushed the issue. Small movements add up to big change over time. I wish it didn't take so long, but at least it's still moving forward.
And it's moving forward in part because of you including your talk with your PCP.
That brought me here, and with help from you and others I understand well enough to help others get started. When I started using MMJ I let people know and received comments like "that's interesting, good luck" but not a lot of confidence behind it. Now I'm getting calls from people, friends of friends, asking me about my experience and how to get started.
Everything you do helps to build awareness beyond what you can see, because it keeps spreading. A doctor is against adding MMJ to his practice today. But because you mentioned it next time he sees or hears something positive about it he'll pay more attention. He may not change his position, but he won't be as able to ignore or disregard the next positive report because a patient pushed the issue. Small movements add up to big change over time. I wish it didn't take so long, but at least it's still moving forward.
And it's moving forward in part because of you including your talk with your PCP.
CajunCelt
New Member
Yeah, thats a pretty common story.
Fact is if you're going to talk patients of an illness into using a product, you take on the responsibility of ensuring they are taken care to the best of your ability.
I personally don't dig people becoming caregivers of some type without at least some minimal training (other than 420).
This is a pretty good example. Sorry P., not trying to throw trash at ya bud.
I mention on my own thread several times that a beginner's dose is 1:20 minimum. Some need 50:1 even. I've been at this & the "Bio Bombs" for a day or two.
....so trust me! At least on dosing with my own regimen elements if nothing else. I promise not to sell ya ocean front property in Arizona.