AKgramma
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I store my capsules in the freezer. ;-)
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I store my capsules in the freezer. ;-)
AKgramma
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I'm a bad girl. ;-) I decided to let the mash boil at whatever temp it was for 2.5 hours (abt 210F), then strained it. I figure about 1/4 of it is decarbed from having cured the powder and when making the cannabudder. I don't expect the high, just a reduction of joint pain.
I ended up with just over 500ml, which should fill a LOT of capsules. Each 00 cap holds 0.73g/cc so that means 684 capsules!
I ended up with just over 500ml, which should fill a LOT of capsules. Each 00 cap holds 0.73g/cc so that means 684 capsules!
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This'll work out to your benefit. What didn't decarbed remained acid cannabinoids, and they're learning more and more the value of these components. I'll be waiting for your critique of their effectiveness.
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That's exactly what I refer to Fire. Check out CBD Crew Seeds. You'll find some new autos on the market now (I haven't checked for a while) that will finish at around 70 days. I highly recommend you get at least one plant growing.
What's the highest level of CBD with the lowest level of THC you have access to?
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I'm checking out the healing patches of psoriasis scattered about my body. I seem to have hit a slower spot in the process, almost like there's a doorway I haven't passed through, you know what I mean? Anyway, I'm thinking I just made this seriously potent CBD oil for my friend. What if I made a seriously potent oil for my own use, using the recipe we used for the pain cream, but made with the dry Med GOM 1.0 I have in curing mode, and try that on my skin? Canna Montana came up with nice embellishments to the finishing process, making hers a nice whipped consistency I believe I'll try this time.
The recipe is 2 grams of bud for each 1/2 cup of oil. I'm thinking reduce the volume of oil to as low as I'm comfortable with (to be worked out) and make a small, more potent batch. The pain/healing cream I now have may be too low in CBD, and it's the CBD that's recommended for psoriasis. I'm determined to find the solution to this skin condition.
I'll keep you updated. It'll be a couple days. I'll be using the slow decarb/extraction in the oven. I'm growing fond of that technique, and I'm looking forward to the fresh extraction I'll be doing with the tasty Dark Devil Auto. I'm almost tempted to take her now just so I can do that.
She's in the harvest window, I'm just trying to let her go all the way to the finish line. Lol!
The recipe is 2 grams of bud for each 1/2 cup of oil. I'm thinking reduce the volume of oil to as low as I'm comfortable with (to be worked out) and make a small, more potent batch. The pain/healing cream I now have may be too low in CBD, and it's the CBD that's recommended for psoriasis. I'm determined to find the solution to this skin condition.
I'll keep you updated. It'll be a couple days. I'll be using the slow decarb/extraction in the oven. I'm growing fond of that technique, and I'm looking forward to the fresh extraction I'll be doing with the tasty Dark Devil Auto. I'm almost tempted to take her now just so I can do that.
She's in the harvest window, I'm just trying to let her go all the way to the finish line. Lol!
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Here's the link for it. Thanks Birdie.
AngryBird's Nest
KeifKeith
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Sue,
Since no one has posted a question for you today (publicly anyways!), and I surely don't want you to feel lonely or underutilized, here I go with a pondering forethought.
Do you know the approximate shelf life of a syringe of CCO?
I would assume CCO would have a longer shelf life than fully prepared Caps as there would be fewer compounds to cause synergistic degeneration. I know I can freeze the plant, etc, but I want to process a fresh plant with as much retained terps and compounds are possible. I have been gifted access to a whole plant Blue Dream 1:1, THC:CBD once flowering is completed (about 2-3 weeks), and it looks like it should weigh in at around 3 lbs of vegetative matter above the soil. I want to process this whole plant right out of the ground, but wasn't sure if I might be making more CCO than can be used before spoilage might occur. I guess I could freeze the CCO in the syringe, I hope it wouldn't expand and break the syringe (Glass BD). I know it's a wonderful problem to contemplate ... too much CCO.
My son started his protocol on Monday, your dosing protocol thread is great stuff Sue, Thank You.
He is starting at:
Week 1 - 1 cap q.i.d. @ 40:1
Week 2 - 1 cap q.i.d. @ 30:1
Weeks 3 & 4 - determine best/optimal dosages @ 20:1
He has no Cannabis tolerance, so dosing and it's effects are much easier to discern. He has no signs of any negative effects after two days, and I thought the 40:1 would give his system a chance to adapt to the new constant Cannabis extract presence in his blood at a low dosage. You are so right Mommy Sue, it's difficult to dose a child at first, trepidation summed it up succinctly.
Thank you Sue, enjoy your DD!
Keith
Since no one has posted a question for you today (publicly anyways!), and I surely don't want you to feel lonely or underutilized, here I go with a pondering forethought.
Do you know the approximate shelf life of a syringe of CCO?
I would assume CCO would have a longer shelf life than fully prepared Caps as there would be fewer compounds to cause synergistic degeneration. I know I can freeze the plant, etc, but I want to process a fresh plant with as much retained terps and compounds are possible. I have been gifted access to a whole plant Blue Dream 1:1, THC:CBD once flowering is completed (about 2-3 weeks), and it looks like it should weigh in at around 3 lbs of vegetative matter above the soil. I want to process this whole plant right out of the ground, but wasn't sure if I might be making more CCO than can be used before spoilage might occur. I guess I could freeze the CCO in the syringe, I hope it wouldn't expand and break the syringe (Glass BD). I know it's a wonderful problem to contemplate ... too much CCO.
My son started his protocol on Monday, your dosing protocol thread is great stuff Sue, Thank You.
He is starting at:
Week 1 - 1 cap q.i.d. @ 40:1
Week 2 - 1 cap q.i.d. @ 30:1
Weeks 3 & 4 - determine best/optimal dosages @ 20:1
He has no Cannabis tolerance, so dosing and it's effects are much easier to discern. He has no signs of any negative effects after two days, and I thought the 40:1 would give his system a chance to adapt to the new constant Cannabis extract presence in his blood at a low dosage. You are so right Mommy Sue, it's difficult to dose a child at first, trepidation summed it up succinctly.
Thank you Sue, enjoy your DD!
Keith
AKgramma
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I took one capsule yesterday afternoon, then another about 3 hours later. I had no high whatsoever, not even sleepy, but I DID notice a slight drop in knee pain. Today I'm going to take a cap every 3 - 4 hours, if I remember. The coconut oil does not upset my stomach like cannabudder capsules do. I figure it has to buildup in the system to be effective over time.
I don't think pain management depends on the Magic Capsule, however. Dietary changes need to be made. Over the last few weeks I've been fairly strict on a low carb diet, which reduces the edema and pain in the legs. So, every little bit helps.
Ideally, I'll find a comfortable schedule for the caps, and find that threshold between staying alert and getting sleepy. Just reminding folks, that I don't do the 36 hours in the oven to decarb, so maintain the original cannabinoids by just cooking the mash for a couple hours in the jar in a water bath. next time I MIGHT cook it directly over the flame on low and monitor the temp for a decarb. That should only take about 45 min at the correct temp (222F?).
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What a blessing Keith, an entire plant, right out of the ground. Did you do a little jig?
You'll have to document that in some way for us Keith. So exciting. Made my heart beat faster. Lol! Someday...... Any cool, dry place should be good for the oil. A vacuum-sealed bag in the bottom of the refrigerator sounds like a good place. I seem to recall Tim recommending we don't freeze the oil, but I don't know what his concern was based on. BadKat puts her own oils through a series of freeze/thaws to break down the components finer and finer. I think the body can deal with it just fine without all that fuss and worry. This is a very basic plant doing very basic things. We really don't need to mess with it all that much.
The protocol looks sound to my novice eye. Your reasoning on his tolerance levels is spot on Keith. Before long you'll be breathing that sigh of relief, one way or the other. Your trepidation is mostly based on a fear that he'll respond poorly and you'll have put him through unnecessary discomfort. Once you see that's not the case you'll relax and focus in on finding the optimal therapeutic dose.
As AKgramma so clearly stated it, this may need to build up to be as effective as we hope. I'm anticipating he'll start to feel some relief quickly. Any relief is going to be a blessing and light a fire in you that will catch you off guard. That's your warning shot. Your life is about to change, so brace for it.
CajunCelt
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Don't freeze the oil...ever.
It'll last a good 5 years in the frig.
It'll last a good 5 years in the frig.
Ten days on the capsule regiment.
I have been using the caps as a base buzz and going with whatever extra I want to add. I keep intending to up the caps but I usually just have a hit or maybe more and I am good for a while. Even so, I can tell it is taking some of the pressure off of my lungs. Overall I feel better than before I started trying the caps.
I am down to a few days of them left and I am too short of bud to use it to make more until I start harvesting a KK plant in about ten days. I did not expect the thought of running out of caps to be a concern. Well, I like caps. Now if I could just find the Kool-Aid.
Sue had ask for information on the syringes I used. The brand name was MonoJect. They were from the Jungle. They were sold as pack of 10 and came in a cheap zip lock bag. The oil dissolved the CC marks and the plunger tended to stick. They probably would be fine for dosing infants with that smelly pink liquid that cures everything they can catch. These were 10 mill, get the brown 6 mill that Sue is using.
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I have been using the caps as a base buzz and going with whatever extra I want to add. I keep intending to up the caps but I usually just have a hit or maybe more and I am good for a while. Even so, I can tell it is taking some of the pressure off of my lungs. Overall I feel better than before I started trying the caps.
I am down to a few days of them left and I am too short of bud to use it to make more until I start harvesting a KK plant in about ten days. I did not expect the thought of running out of caps to be a concern. Well, I like caps. Now if I could just find the Kool-Aid.
Sue had ask for information on the syringes I used. The brand name was MonoJect. They were from the Jungle. They were sold as pack of 10 and came in a cheap zip lock bag. The oil dissolved the CC marks and the plunger tended to stick. They probably would be fine for dosing infants with that smelly pink liquid that cures everything they can catch. These were 10 mill, get the brown 6 mill that Sue is using.
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AKgramma
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Update on my dosing: I remembered to take 1 cap at 10:30 am, 2:30 PM, and 6:30 PM. Just took 2 caps at 10:30 PM to last all night, but will still take my usual 2 Naproxin Sodium (aleve). Hopefully I won't wake up with achy joints in the AM. Still no high, so I did it right. If I don't decarb, I don't get the THC high, which I don't want anyway.
I'm remembering to take a spoonful of peanut butter with that, since my oil of choice is coconut oil, and I have to keep the liver busy while the cap goes through the stomach.:
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I'm remembering to take a spoonful of peanut butter with that, since my oil of choice is coconut oil, and I have to keep the liver busy while the cap goes through the stomach.:
:Why bother with cannabinoid therapies?
Whats Uppy Sweetum's.?
. I am very curious of late the reliability of these charts. It seems CBD is being pushed solely as the miracle cannabinoid and companies and labs are steering away from THC(not just this chart but a lot of late) for a example a lady i treat for migranes(vascular tension) smokes a THC strain for relief, another for insomnia( not thca)..just a lot of contradicting info out there , and want people not to look strictly for CBD and forget the THC which is in the words of Cajun "The knockout punch for cancer."Not discrediting everything in theses charts but would like to know they're motive behind the lack of THC info. I wonder if these "chart Makers" are also pushing sales of CBD(industrial hemp) where it can be shipped legally via mail. Amazing work Sue , thanks for your tireless work and dedication./l\.
RheinRover
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Well all of the bio bomb capsules I made have been passed off. Excited to see how these will work on brain cancer. They have been using oil now for 3 weeks and started Monday with the capsules in combination with tacking. Sep. 9 a scan will be taken and really hoping we see a reduction in size.
Love seeing all of this talk of raw plant usage. I made some oil about 3 months going with a freshly harvested plant. I ended up with 2 grams of oil I am using for dabbing, but now I'd love to try again with some capsules since I really enjoy them so much.
Have a great day everyone!
Love seeing all of this talk of raw plant usage. I made some oil about 3 months going with a freshly harvested plant. I ended up with 2 grams of oil I am using for dabbing, but now I'd love to try again with some capsules since I really enjoy them so much.
Have a great day everyone!
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How did you process it raw to get CCO? Can you give us a write-up on that? I'm starting to think that PsyCro was on to something exciting with the olive oil extraction using fresh harvested. The combination of olive oil, lecithin and cannabinoids with the hopes of retaining terpenes is provocative, and it was sooooo easy to make. He was using it successfully against cancer at a dose of 10 ml a day, I believe, just swilled down and ran it through the gut.
I'm pumped about the scans. I'll be waiting for the report. Hard to believe after three weeks we would see no change, eh? They need the shot of hope.
I'm making more capsules for my walking buddy who has ADHD. I'm still trying to get her up to three capsules a day. This is a brand new concept for her, but she's stuck with the two capsules a day for over a month now, and we've worked out a mix that keeps her more alert in the daytime and another to help her sleep through the night, something she wasn't doing well before we started her on this therapy. She hasn't gotten to where she expresses less frustration with others and can be less stressed with her young grandson, but we're making headway.
This is pretty heady stuff, helping others heal with cannabis. It's a responsibility that, once accepted, one can't really walk away from. In the case of this friend, I'll have to find some way to supply her after I eventually move west. She's in her 70s, and not at all a candidate to grow her own. Hopefully, by then we'll have a little more freedom with shipping meds.
RheinRover
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So I didn't really do anything special when I used it raw. I had been doing some reading that when we dry we lose a lot of the terps so me liking to try new things thought well lets give this a shot.
I took all my popcorn buds and trim straight from the plant and into the freezer. Froze for 24 hrs and then did the 3 stage wash. But instead of 3 min I did only 30 seconds.
The first round of wash came out really nice little to no plant material and not too green.
After this I noticed that I hadnt really pulled much off of the plants so I did another round of washes this time for a little longer maybe 90 seconds max. This came out a really dark green and smells of wet hay.
I wish I had known more before I made it. The first run oil is really nice, possibly the best dab oil I've made so far. I havent tried the 2nd wash. I have it saved away for a rainy day hoping maybe I'll find a use for it.
I am also quite excited about the scans. While talking to her over the weekend she said the oil she has been taking was making her feel better which I feel is a good start.
You hit the nail on the head talking about helping others. This experience has been more then I could ever imagine. As if growing the plant isn't fun enough but your hobby lets you help others too.
I took all my popcorn buds and trim straight from the plant and into the freezer. Froze for 24 hrs and then did the 3 stage wash. But instead of 3 min I did only 30 seconds.
The first round of wash came out really nice little to no plant material and not too green.
After this I noticed that I hadnt really pulled much off of the plants so I did another round of washes this time for a little longer maybe 90 seconds max. This came out a really dark green and smells of wet hay.
I wish I had known more before I made it. The first run oil is really nice, possibly the best dab oil I've made so far. I havent tried the 2nd wash. I have it saved away for a rainy day hoping maybe I'll find a use for it.
I am also quite excited about the scans. While talking to her over the weekend she said the oil she has been taking was making her feel better which I feel is a good start.
You hit the nail on the head talking about helping others. This experience has been more then I could ever imagine. As if growing the plant isn't fun enough but your hobby lets you help others too.
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I'm gonna have to try that with the Carnivals. It would be a simple matter to decarb the oil to activate the THC and CBD. More research is needed, but I like that idea of utilizing the trim and popcorn buds like this.
Shiggity has me planning to invest in a press to get to solventless oil. I believe this is my best direction, and I suspect it's going to change the dynamics of what we're attempting here.
RheinRover
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I couldnt agree more. I would love to start pressing, done a few runs with a hair straightener but I know there are much better ways. An Arbor press is on my xmas list
