Stunger's Last Stand: Banned To The Balcony!

Welcome to my new grow journal. Just in case the possibility eventuates, I'll say it now, that this may end up as a perpetual journal.

Outdoor balcony growing while attempting to keep it stealthy:
The balcony is my grow location and it is one where space is limited and stealth is a priority to keep my grows under the radar of neighbours and from unwanted attention. To keep my plants below the sightlines of neighbours I have to limit the height of my plants to about 2.5 feet because anything higher would potentially be on view.

Medium:
I am growing in LOS (living organic soil). It is soil that I reuse and reamend between grows or reamend as required during the grows.

The soil recipe that I started with was based on what I could source locally to match or approximate Subcool's Super Soil recipe, I had added fresh worm castings to it that soon had worms living in the soil, even with the harsh hot wet/dry cycles of the pots some worms always still survived post-harvest. Since last year's grow, I have added some ingredients from Clackamas Coot/Jim Bennet's soil recipe, like crustacean meal and malted barley. As well as more worm castings from my home worm farm and some home compost mixed in. I bought a 3 layer worm farm unit a couple of years ago as it's easy to feed them chopped up banana skin, fruit/veg waste and in return you get great worm castings and worm wee that the plants seem to like in their watering.

Emilya recently made a post that alerted me to Geoflora dry organic nutrients which are not locally available but they are one of our sponsors, they also sound very interesting.I am also intrigued too, by the results that the folk who use Mega Crop are getting, but for the time being I'll be sticking with my LOS as it tends to get better with age and also it is fulfilling to observe and learn and make 'tweaks' and additions and monitor the plant's responses, if it can be 'dialed in' well, then it should produce as nature intended.

Pots:
Currently either 30L (8 gallon) or 50L (13 gallon) plastic pots. I have drilled holes in them to convert them into homemade air pots and lined them with landscape fabric. If I was starting again I would go for fabric pots, although there may be benefits from the sturdiness of plastic pots for easier securing of training wire.

I don't do it, but having the potted plants sitting in 2nd outer pots to shield them from the fierce heat of the sun would be a good thing.

Training:
I will be using a combination of quadlining/LST and supercropping as necessary to keep them stealthy and allow maintainance of them in the restricted space of the balcony to be more manageable. Because I have started these girls off later than I did last year there will be less time for them to veg before flowering, so it is likely less training will be needed.

Last Year's balcony grow:
Here are a couple of pics of last year's 3 plant balcony grow, the bigger one (a White Widow x Gorgonzola reg cross), a couple of overheads (also showing a White Widow reg and Gorilla Glue auto) and the final jarred curing harvest. The 2 photo regs were quadlined, the auto was LST'd. The yield of 23oz was really pleasing. By harvest, the buds took up most of the balcony even though I Quadlined and LST'd as well as supercropped them to keep their height no more than 2.5 feet so they would remain below the sight line of the neighbours. The combined buds produced quite a dank smell, which wafting out into the neighbourhood air gave me a wee bit of concern at times.One of the plants had a diameter close to 4.5 feet, and because I didn't prune off larf/weak growth it probably contributed to the plants growing wider canopies than they needed to.


For this current grow:
I intend to prune off all weak growth to focus on quality bud only (if possible) to help keep the plant's canopies smaller and more manageable, and hopefully any dank odours produced will stay within "recommended stealth limits". Last year I wondered if my neighbours were aware of it, or maybe they were but they had no idea that the smell was cannabis. But either way, it is hard to believe that they wouldn't have smelt it. I'm hoping as a balcony that a lot of that dank air will just go straight up skywards to dissipate, hoping..


Aim for this year:
  • To grow a high CBD strain, I have read great things on the benefits and 'experience' of high CBD bud and I'm intrigued, so I want to see for myself what a high CBD can offer.
  • To grow 2 or 3 THC strains
  • At least one sativa dominant strain and one Indica dominant strain
  • an overall 'smaller' garden than last year for both manageability purposes and also to reduce the amount of dank smell that escapes into the neighbourhood which should, in turn, reduce my own stress about anyone with a knowledgeable nose picking it up.
  • I have not cloned cannabis before, but as the first Godfather seed failed to germinate, I have used the topping of the second plant to see if it will root and if it does then I will grow it out and make full use!
  • Similarly, the early sprouted auto has remained very small and will provide very little bud yield, which means if I like her then a small yield will last me no time at all. So I will try to reverse her, in an attempt to at least make use of her and get some selfed seeds if possible.
Germination:

This year I started germinating seeds 4 - 6 weeks later than last year in order to keep the plants to a more manageable and sensible size. I realise now that this doesn't sit well with me as I regret it already, as by this time last year my plants were already a good size which I miss. Now, I would have preferred to have started earlier and prune harder later, to keep the strongest growth which would still allow development of a big root base to ideally power stronger buds. And although this grow I started germination later, some seeds failed to initially germinate which caused further delay because I then gave them more time to sprout which further delaying kicking off replacements when they didn't.

Strains germinated (from L to R):
  • CBD Express auto- This is said to be up to 21% CBD and less than 1% THC.I found this strain germinates very strongly.It is from our 420 sponsor Weedseedsexpress who have been excellent to deal with, timely, really helpful, informative, they look after you, I will very happily use them again.
  • Mango Sherbert- I have my fellow countryman @syenite to thank for allowing me to share this order with him. This is Indica dominant, said to be uplifting, energetic without couchlock, great all day smoke. Sounds fantastic.
  • Godfather OG- from Weedseedsexpress. This looks a very interesting strain. High THC up to 30% and said to be good for strong night time medicine, OG Kush genetics, Indica dominant. I'm intrigued.
  • Strawberry Cough- from Weedseedsexpress. This strain has some folk rating it very highly, as being quite special. It is not massively high in THC so it must give a good/special entourage effect, I am really curious about it, Sativa dominant.

CBD Express auto

I initially germinated one of these seeds mid-October. It grew a tap root very strongly and once underway has grown strongly. I have only previously grown 1 auto which was the Gorilla Glue auto last year, that gave me just under 4oz and was grown at the peak of summer. This seed I sprouted quite early in the season (early/mid Spring) which was suggested in the growing notes but I am guessing this is the reason it has only grown to 30cm and altho she has thickening up now, it is still only a trunk without any branches shooting off. I probably started her too early or more likely the balcony didn't provide sufficient sunlight to stimulate further growth.

I sprouted my 1 remaining CBD Express auto seed to try and time this seed for the peak summer weather and see how this one grows compared to the first (same location). I am hoping she grows bigger by being in a hotter sunnier more favourable weather window. It will be interesting to see. After a scuff and soak followed by wet paper towels she sprouted and like her sister grew a long strong tap root very quickly, an erupting root tip overnight then about an inch long a day later.

From my limited experience of autos I am very impressed so far with how strongly they take off. The other observation of these CBD Express seeds is that they are very big seeds. The tap roots they have produced on germination have been long and strong.



And the CBD Express that sprouted just this week


Mango Sherbert

This plant started rather slowly but now seems to have picked up the pace a little. So far she's a bit of a leggy girl.


Godfather OG

The first seed I tried didn't germinate. I topped this plant above the 4th node. Previously, I have usually 'micro topped' where I only wait for the growth shoot to grow a couple of centimetres and then a 'wiggle waggle' back and forth and voila the shoot comes away and she's topped. However, this time I decided to wait for her to grow further so I couldattempt to grow out the topping as a clone. I have kept her stalk in a glass of water with some sugar and a humidity dome over her. It is not going to happen immediately so I will just change the water every few days and hope it is successful. After 2 weeks it is probably still too early to expect roots but we'll see in the next couple of weeks, So far, her leaves still appear in good condition.

I intended to Quadline this plant but because her 2nd node only grew one side I decided to leave this node on and nodes 3 and 4 too, so she will be a 5line/quinline. Unfortunately, when I was focusing on securing the end of one of the training wires, I accidentally applied unintended pressure elsewhere which snapped one of her 'arms', it was at least 80% if not 90% snapped thru but I managed to patch her up with some electrical tape and it looks like she will recover, thankfully. It's a reminder to keep one's wits about you as mishaps are always possible, it doesn't help that my once sharp eyesight is these days a blur of what it recently was.


Strawberry Cough

Like the Mango Sherbert I am waiting for her to start to motor. She is still in a bit of a slow phase and a bit light. Interestingly, she has the same number of nodes as the Mango Sherbert but instead of being leggy she is very low with very tight internodal distances.


Screwups:
I have only just started this grow and I already have made a long list of screwups, it's unbelievable.
  • Mistakenly, I planted in concentric planted pots thinking I could make it easy for myself with up potting. Where I could take out the plant out of the pot and place it's root mass into the hole left by it's own previous pot and so on. The trouble is, that when buried in the soil of a bigger pot it didn't make a meaningful root ball for uppotting, instead it grew a long deep tap root thru it's own pot and into the next which meant the Godfather got ripped when uppotting. God knows what I had been thinking/smoking when I did that.
  • I failed to see the shell case membrane throttling a newly emerged seed for 2 days and when I did notice it and freed it, it seemed too late because altho it's cotyledons opened it didn't grow any leaves or grow any bigger.
  • Another seed, a Mexican Sativa, first emerged from the soil with it's root and after replanting it emerged also throttled by it's own membrane and in my attempts to free it I caused the sprout presumably fatal movement where it then remained stunted from that point. It was the only one of 5 that germinated the chances are it would have grown fine had that not happened. My thanks and apologies to Emeraldo for failure to notice this in time.
  • In uppotting the Strawberry Cough, from my previously mentioned stupid concentric pot idea, as soon as I realised it was a bad idea I just wanted it out, but because the roots were insufficiently developed, it all fragmented and the whole plant got momentarily buried in soil during the move, thankfully without harm.
  • I mentioned above already where I snapped one of the Godfather's arms, thankfully it looks like it's healing fine. These plants can take a lot of punishment and still shine (if you're lucky), but still, all the same, fucking sausage fingers.
Anyway, it will be a bit slow until growth picks up. I'm always happy for any suggestions as I appreciate all the experience here, and it is great to see and read what folks are doing.
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Ok I’m gonna ask so here goes , how the hell did you control that smell ? Ummm ok that’s what I thought, there’s no way you controlled that so what did neighbors say ? That shit had to be loud
 
Ok I’m gonna ask so here goes , how the hell did you control that smell ? Ummm ok that’s what I thought, there’s no way you controlled that so what did neighbors say ? That shit had to be loud
Hi Ghostwriter, yes the smell was a growing concern as the plants got bigger, and they certainly got bigger than I was expecting. I deliberately started germination this year 2 months later than last year to try and grow smaller more modest plants, but try telling your ideas to a plant, they never listen!

But back to your question on what did the neighbours say? Nothing. Perhaps they don't have a good sense of smell, perhaps they smell it but don't know what it is, or perhaps they're just being discrete and not saying anything. However a little while ago Shed posed the same question and this is what I said:

InTheShed said:
I find it really hard to believe that anyone 20 feet from your plants in full bloom can't smell them. I mean really hard to believe!
Clearly I am delusional and choosing to battle onwards regardless. Because of my specific circumstances I am a devout believer in the theory of the 'thermal lifting of dankness' which is a <much wished for> phenomenon whereby the combined radiant heat from my balcony and my neighbour's courtyard actually serves to safely lift up the dank smell of the buds to a place far above in the sky where it can no longer be detected. Mate, it's also just one of those times where hope is all that remains!
:ganjamon:
 
Hi Ghostwriter, yes the smell was a growing concern as the plants got bigger, and they certainly got bigger than I was expecting. I deliberately started germination this year 2 months later than last year to try and grow smaller more modest plants, but try telling your ideas to a plant, they never listen!

But back to your question on what did the neighbours say? Nothing. Perhaps they don't have a good sense of smell, perhaps they smell it but don't know what it is, or perhaps they're just being discrete and not saying anything. However a little while ago Shed posed the same question and this is what I said:


Clearly I am delusional and choosing to battle onwards regardless. Because of my specific circumstances I am a devout believer in the theory of the 'thermal lifting of dankness' which is a <much wished for> phenomenon whereby the combined radiant heat from my balcony and my neighbour's courtyard actually serves to safely lift up the dank smell of the buds to a place far above in the sky where it can no longer be detected. Mate, it's also just one of those times where hope is all that remains!
:ganjamon:
Lol I smell them from here!!! :yahoo: Your neighbors are probably like me and catch a wiff and say,"hell yea! someone forgot to invite me to the party!"
The world is getting more open to our favorite smell daily. Cheers my friend, wishing your thermal rising the best..never heard put like that but sounds good for you if it does work that way.
 
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Hi Ghostwriter, yes the smell was a growing concern as the plants got bigger, and they certainly got bigger than I was expecting. I deliberately started germination this year 2 months later than last year to try and grow smaller more modest plants, but try telling your ideas to a plant, they never listen!

But back to your question on what did the neighbours say? Nothing. Perhaps they don't have a good sense of smell, perhaps they smell it but don't know what it is, or perhaps they're just being discrete and not saying anything. However a little while ago Shed posed the same question and this is what I said:


Clearly I am delusional and choosing to battle onwards regardless. Because of my specific circumstances I am a devout believer in the theory of the 'thermal lifting of dankness' which is a <much wished for> phenomenon whereby the combined radiant heat from my balcony and my neighbour's courtyard actually serves to safely lift up the dank smell of the buds to a place far above in the sky where it can no longer be detected. Mate, it's also just one of those times where hope is all that remains!
:ganjamon:
You are buck wild brother
 
Smell is my biggest concern. I’m glad you have it figured out!!
No, certainly not, I am of course taking a chance.

As I said earlier, there remains a good amount of hope in my decision to grow on the balcony. That my low profile training combined with the quantity of dank smell being released is still stealthy enough to keep the neighbours from being unhappily alerted.

My initial aim of starting later to grow smaller plants for less escaping dank smell looks very possibly to be a failure. But that's the thing, you never know if in fact no one can smell it, that as long as I keep them out of their visual field they will continue not to know. I really like growing my own personal supply and as the years tick by it seems a shame not to enjoy the experience while trying to go some way to keep things stealthy. Visually they are pretty good, but dank smell wise hmmm... yeah it can be a worry. :hmmmm::smokin:
 
No, certainly not, I am of course taking a chance.

As I said earlier, there remains a good amount of hope in my decision to grow on the balcony. That my low profile training combined with the quantity of dank smell being released is still stealthy enough to keep the neighbours from being unhappily alerted.

My initial aim of starting later to grow smaller plants for less escaping dank smell looks very possibly to be a failure. But that's the thing, you never know if in fact no one can smell it, that as long as I keep them out of their visual field they will continue not to know. I really like growing my own personal supply and as the years tick by it seems a shame not to enjoy the experience while trying to go some way to keep things stealthy. Visually they are pretty good, but dank smell wise hmmm... yeah it can be a worry. :hmmmm::smokin:
I can only imagine. I am running a 6 inch tubefan 24 hours a day pulling air through a carbon filter and even smell my girls every now and their tent is still zipped up! I am lucky enough to not have many people to worry about also. My fingers are crossed for ya friend. Wishing your grow the best! I myself do not know of anything that could help your situation except maybe "thermal rising" like you said. It does seem logical. We all know heat rises so leaves me wondering. Hmm. Good luck either way bro! Cheers! :goodluck: :hmmmm:
 
I knocked on wood before/during and after previous post!!
Haha, yes you can't help it sometimes, making a little ritual for good luck. But I think too, that sometimes some of the stuff that we worry about never happens, so for that case we might as well go ahead and enjoy it!
:party::cheer:
 
Finally caught up!!!

The way your girls look my money says that they are growing underneath very high quality grow lights and that you just move them out to the balcony for pictures. lol

But with your hernia that would be a bitch.

My outdoor grows smell emissions are a moderate risk behind deer (wildlife in general), strippers (unfortunately not the kind that folks with low moral fortitude go see dance), and herbicides mainly Round-up.

Of course my exterior grows have the luxury of full rural remoteness.
 
Pistils at last! Go, SC go!

Good canopy control, Koro. That’s as flat as a bowling green.
Cheers DD. In my roofless outdoor tent garden canopy control will always be one of my main stealth requirements!:rofl:
Lol I smell them from here!!! :yahoo: Your neighbors are probably like me and catch a wiff and say,"hell yea! someone forgot to invite me to the party!"
The world is getting more open to our favorite smell daily. Cheers my friend, wishing your thermal rising the best..never heard put like that but sounds good for you if it does work that way.
Thanks AH, that would be damn nice if indeed they were having those thoughts when catching a whiff!
You are buck wild brother
Thanks Ghostwriter!
Finally caught up!!!

The way your girls look my money says that they are growing underneath very high quality grow lights and that you just move them out to the balcony for pictures. lol

But with your hernia that would be a bitch.
Cheers FR! Haha yes that would be a riot moving them out there for the pics. Actually the sun on the balcony is always facing into the camera which makes it darn challenging to take pics that aren't totally blown out with too much light.
 
General update.

We've had a few days of crap rainy windy weather and today thankfully, it is back to being all sunny again. I gave the girls a nice Foliar feed yesterday, and a Neem bug prevention spray this morning which I had intended to do over the weekend but the rain prevented it.

My attempts of spraying Colloidal Silver on a small selected stem of each of the photo girls continues. So far it is 18 days that I have sprayed every day at least 4 or 5 times, except yesterday when they didn't get a single spray because of the rain. I will soon take some close up pics to see if there are any signs of reversal occurring. If reversing is not successful, I have some regular White Widow XTRM pollen stored in the fridge that I will try on them at the beginning of March, I have no idea whether it is still viable pollen, it must be thought of as being doubtful as it is 3 years old and was used for a previous pollination where it was then a few weeks before being stored in the fridge, but if it is my only chance then it is worth a shot.

The Mango Sherbert and Godfather OG are developing their early buds, and both appear to be happy and going well with no signs of insects hassling them. I gave the Mango Sherbert a top dress last week because she was getting a few yellowing lower leaves but now she seems fine and no sign of further yellowing yet.

The Strawberry Cough is probably about 3 weeks behind but she is now pushing out some early pistils, and other than that she is appearing happy and growing well. I am pleased that after what seems a very slow start that she has filled out quite nicely, well actually they have filled out more than I was expecting.

The CBD Express Auto is now about 60 days above ground and will probably be given the chop in a couple more weeks. She is looking nice and clean with no sign of bugs.

Here are some pics of the girls enjoying the afternoon sunshine!




Hope you enjoyed the view and thanks for dropping by! :hookah:
 
Documenting a failed effort to grow a Mexican Sativa

One of the strains I tried to kick off this grow was Mexican Sativa. Only the 4th seed of 5 germinated, and when it broke the soil it did so first with it's root! I have never had that happen before, so I replanted it right side up, and a couple of days later it broke the soil correctly the second time. However, my eyesight is not as sharp as it used to be and I failed to notice that the membrane remained wrapped around the cotyledons, it was really difficult removing the membrane which I eventually did using a small pair of tweezers, but in the effort to free her, the sprout got excessively tugged and jostled around which I think must have damaged the root and after that the sprout stayed a sprout for close to 4 weeks with only the first pair of single blade leaves and never grew any more leaves or got any bigger. So while it was unfortunately a no go, I am highlighting it here to show how seeds can appear to sprout just fine and yet be fatally strangled with the seed case membrane, if it is not removed the cotyledons can never open and the sprout will fail to develop.

Sprout breaks soil root first - this was the view that greeted me the first morning!


Sprout breaks soil a second time correctly


Something is not right, the shell case membrane remains wrapping the cotyledons


A valiant but ultimately failed attempt at surgery


At about 4 weeks old I terminated it as it was clearly not going to be viable


The lesson it has taught me, is to look very carefully once a seed has germinated and broken the soil, to check that the seed case and membrane are both free.
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This is LIFE
 
General update.

We've had a few days of crap rainy windy weather and today thankfully, it is back to being all sunny again. I gave the girls a nice Foliar feed yesterday, and a Neem bug prevention spray this morning which I had intended to do over the weekend but the rain prevented it.

My attempts of spraying Colloidal Silver on a small selected stem of each of the photo girls continues. So far it is 18 days that I have sprayed every day at least 4 or 5 times, except yesterday when they didn't get a single spray because of the rain. I will soon take some close up pics to see if there are any signs of reversal occurring. If reversing is not successful, I have some regular White Widow XTRM pollen stored in the fridge that I will try on them at the beginning of March, I have no idea whether it is still viable pollen, it must be thought of as being doubtful as it is 3 years old and was used for a previous pollination where it was then a few weeks before being stored in the fridge, but if it is my only chance then it is worth a shot.

The Mango Sherbert and Godfather OG are developing their early buds, and both appear to be happy and going well with no signs of insects hassling them. I gave the Mango Sherbert a top dress last week because she was getting a few yellowing lower leaves but now she seems fine and no sign of further yellowing yet.

The Strawberry Cough is probably about 3 weeks behind but she is now pushing out some early pistils, and other than that she is appearing happy and growing well. I am pleased that after what seems a very slow start that she has filled out quite nicely, well actually they have filled out more than I was expecting.

The CBD Express Auto is now about 60 days above ground and will probably be given the chop in a couple more weeks. She is looking nice and clean with no sign of bugs.

Here are some pics of the girls enjoying the afternoon sunshine!




Hope you enjoyed the view and thanks for dropping by! :hookah:
with the NZ sun , they gonna explode

The sun is very harsh in NZ , it looks like it's not so hot , but the full sun attack your skin BAD , i remember i got a bad sun burn on my bold head , it was so painful

i wonder if that help plant to have this kind of sun , sun here is dry and hot and killz everything , but in NZ , it's different sun :lot-o-toke: :lot-o-toke: :lot-o-toke:

i never grow outside , my dogzz eat ma plants /... :passitleft:
they look so nice tho



 
i never grow outside , my dogzz eat ma plants /... :passitleft:
they look so nice tho
Dogs are banned on my balcony, cats too! I caught a pigeon once that was trying to alight it's fat arse down on a plant's bud canopy. Actually anything with legs or wings I'd prefer it to stay away from the balcony! :lot-o-toke:
 
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