Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Systems

[Conradino23]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Great looking plants Conradino!

Thx a lot man and welcome to my grow!

 

[Conradino23]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Those males wood scare me,,, my friend. Don't take but one or two sacks to ruin a crop. Believe me I've been there.. Soon as I see a male I kill it. If you want some pollen you can take a cut and keep it going in a cloner on a 12/12 regiment and it will continue to grow and put out pollen. Girls look great. I see alittle caterpillar damage. That's one thing I always hated was worms jumping off a plant as she dries. I've been using Capitan Jacks once about 20 days before harvest and haven't seen one worm since. Now I do know some places don't really get worms but I know here I do. Looking good my friend Keepem Green

I know it's a risk, man. But then this line will die if I don't pollinate so I'd rather ruin the crop than cut the male before he produces good pollen. He's on the brink actually, so in 3 days I'll just get there, cut all the branches down, put them in plastic bags, and then get them back home where I can shake them into a container which I'm gonna use for brushing the chosen female. Anyway, the weather is perfect now cause there's no wind so the pollen cannot travel anywhere, so if I'm lucky I won't find a lot of seeds in my plants. I mean here and there that's all right with me but nothing serious. I was also thinking about keeping the pollen frozen cause this male is pretty good, and I cannot keep it indoor. Damage you see is indeed from insects but only Grape Dogs have suffered it cause The Shady Spot is very wet and humid. Thx for looking, NCW!

 

[Conradino23]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

great looking plants conradino

Have you ever had a plant that just wouldn't flower outdoors?

My mystery Nirvana sprouted March 20 barely showed a few hairs after 9wks 12/12
Put outdoor mid June and is still not showing hairs. and she is 23 weeks old

The clone of her is outdoors also since she went through about 4 wks 12/12 and was just hogging up valuable space.
She was put outdoor 2wks ago and shows very little maturation.

Never had it but I heard about it before. Just cull her if she doesn't progress.

 

[SWOGA]

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Firstly, Thank you, those photos were a joy. Takes me to another time and place.
I say wait for the pollen, take some, if you get a few seeds, oh well, the strain lives 2 ways.

 

[NorCaliwood]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Just my two cents, I understand ya man, you might if you ain't already, I'm a picture looker, never could read, but cut him WAY back....... Don't need but a small bottom branch too gain the same with alittle less chance. Alittle pollen goes along ways that's for sure. Unless you plan on a whole bunch of crosses. I'm kind of hoping for a pile of feminized seeds from a auto flower so I'm hunting pollen too.
Nice bushes dude. Your pretty close to mine. I got one that looks a week tops further down the road in flower. Hope that fine looking sativa don't flip male on ya. Nice looking plant... All of them look great. I got a horror story's about some guerrilla grows in dense cover. Look like you got a lot of ground cover around ya. Well,,, Keepem Green

 

[Conradino23]

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Firstly, Thank you, those photos were a joy. Takes me to another time and place.
I say wait for the pollen, take some, if you get a few seeds, oh well, the strain lives 2 ways.

Thank you, man. I sure like them all. Your contribution is most welcome

Just my two cents, I understand ya man, you might if you ain't already, I'm a picture looker, never could read, but cut him WAY back....... Don't need but a small bottom branch too gain the same with alittle less chance. Alittle pollen goes along ways that's for sure. Unless you plan on a whole bunch of crosses. I'm kind of hoping for a pile of feminized seeds from a auto flower so I'm hunting pollen too.
Nice bushes dude. Your pretty close to mine. I got one that looks a week tops further down the road in flower. Hope that fine looking sativa don't flip male on ya. Nice looking plant... All of them look great. I got a horror story's about some guerrilla grows in dense cover. Look like you got a lot of ground cover around ya. Well,,, Keepem Green

I know, I started thinking. I've trimmed him twice actually, but yeah these branches are plenty. There's "vase method" actually which is supposed to work like a dream. You cut as many branches with sacs as you can, you put them in vase with water at home like you'd do with flowers and collect pollen that way which you can use later in much more controllable way. I'm harvesting the guy today, maybe I'm gonna leave a branch or two, that's it. Thx for the input, man!

 

[Heirloom]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Bag his heads BEFORE you cut, in case he has some open sacks. So you don't shake the pollen into the air.

Vase method works well. I kept a cutting earlier this year for well over a month.

 

[Conradino23]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Hey man, it's done! I cut everything, bagged, and got the pollen. It's hard to separate it from the sacs, but it's there. I'm sure some got in the air, how much we'll see. I kept few cuttings in water just in case, maybe I could freeze extra pollen.

 

[Heirloom]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

I've been meaning to see if suspending pollen in glycerin for freezing is an option for long term storage. I suspend certain brewing yeast strains in it in small vials for freezing and incubate/propagate the population when I need it.

Take out the vial, thaw it then either paint it on or dilute it with water and immediately spot spray apply. Hmmmm.....

 

[Conradino23]

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So you'd mix it with glicerine? But will it work for pollination after thawing? I was thinking about mixing it with baked flour, vacuum-sealing and then freezing.

 

[Conradino23]

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I finally pollinated the Ultra Dog female, 4 lower branches to be exact but I think some pollen went that way before so I expect more seeds. If I get around thousand seeds that's gonna be perfect. I also went overboard a bit and pollinated one branch of Colombian cause she looks like the fast pheno which is gonna carry some serious weight Still sunny but rains are expected this week which actually they could use. Ok, I hope everybody's seeing these early flowers already. Smoked some Mexican, it's getting to be a serious creeper also gets slightly disorientating but still very happy and upbeat

 

[Heirloom]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

So you'd mix it with glicerine? But will it work for pollination after thawing? I was thinking about mixing it with baked flour, vacuum-sealing and then freezing.

I don't know if it will work. It will be an experiment for next year. I've already got my pollinating done for the year.

 

[B A R]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Have you ever had a plant that just wouldn't flower outdoors?

My mystery Nirvana sprouted March 20 barely showed a few hairs after 9wks 12/12
Put outdoor mid June and is still not showing hairs. and she is 23 weeks old

The clone of her is outdoors also since she went through about 4 wks 12/12 and was just hogging up valuable space.
She was put outdoor 2wks ago and shows very little maturation.

I'm going through that same thing with an indoor plant Hound. It's 87 days old and has been under 12/12 for 25 days.

 

[Conradino23]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

More than 3 weeks is not in norm, that's true. If it doesn't start in 3-5 days it's a bad pheno.

 

[SmokesDaKush]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

So you'd mix it with glicerine? But will it work for pollination after thawing? I was thinking about mixing it with baked flour, vacuum-sealing and then freezing.

I have stored pollen in the freezer cut with flour that I have so far used a little over a year later with success. I actually have some I recently used from 2012 and 2013. I see no signs as of yet but it wasn't long ago either. If it works I'll update you. Beautiful plants as always conradino!

 

[Conradino23]

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I have stored pollen in the freezer cut with flour that I have so far used a little over a year later with success. I actually have some I recently used from 2012 and 2013. I see no signs as of yet but it wasn't long ago either. If it works I'll update you. Beautiful plants as always conradino!

All right. Thx

 

[B A R]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

More than 3 weeks is not in norm, that's true. If it doesn't start in 3-5 days it's a bad pheno.

Thanxx C. I'll ride it out until I need that space.

 

[Organic Weed]

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Congrats man!!!!! They look awsome and the short smoke report made us feel we were in the room with you...
I was reading your previous posts and you were wondering about Ghost Train Haze from Rare Dankness and wondering about it being a hype... I was wondering the same. It's like the Girl Scout Cookies genetics... There is so much hype around it also that you start wondering about it... Grey Area Cooffe Shop in Amsterdam used to have the Haze it up to a few months ago and the 1eHulp used to have the Cookies. I hope they still have it coz I'll be in there for a couple of days on a stop over ...
Anyway I've always hoped I could try a guerrilla style... Where I'm living it's warm year round between 15 C and 30 C during autumn to spring and summer is too f*****g hot... the climate is almost perfect to grow cannabis -- maybe a little too humid during a couple of months... but I've never found the right spot, something that won't bring me into troubles... The taste must be amazing although the potency is lower than indoor, despite they must have more terpenes and better cannabinoids coz sun is really full spectrum... So maybe these contribute to the high also, offering a different type of "highness"...

... so I'm wondering what about the best place to grow ganja, and my answer is: low-land Semiarid regions near the equator. During autumn, winter and part of the spring they have T between 14 C and 30 C every day because it's semi arid, not desertic yet, with chilly nights and warm days, and there is very little sunlight difference between the seasons. So, just to give an example, Mexico and Brasil are the best candidate to produce the best weed on earth, employing hundreds of Mexicans.

Donald Trump hasn't understood yet how to keep his beloved Mexicans at home: collaborating with Mexico to grow high quality weed in Mexico and import it to the U.S.... Make joints not war...

EDIT: the real full name is Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookie

 

[Conradino23]

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As far as indoor vs. outdoor is concerned this debate will drag on I'm not really against indoor as I think excellency can be achieved everywhere but I prefer outdoor high produced by the full spectrum of sun, wind and natural soil. These days you're gonna have some strains of ridiculous potency like Guerilla Glue #4 or Quantum Kush which get tested at 30% THC or other hoarded clones. Seeds are less predictable cause THC roof varies via genetic profile or pheno expression. Still, even with clones you need these perfect conditions to squeeze out the maximum value, and I'm not talking about potency only. You need great soil, excelent light source, optimal RH and so on. On 420 there are High Brix growers who arrived at buds that were 28,5% THC (they tested them) with strains that are usually quoted around 20-22%, so yeah good soil makes a huge difference. Then properly outdoor grown cannabis will not be less potent, it will be the same, and sometimes it will be more potent, but it will be definitely different. I think some folks who follow this journal and grow both indoor and outdoor could agree. Another thing, mistake that outdoor growers in California are making now is that they still focus on quantity while prices of their pot tumbles down more and more with every year. Yeah I've been following this market. If they started learning and invested more in the process, in testing their soil, in upping their game, in analyzing the results, in checking the possibilities of force-flowered crops, they would be way ahead of indoor growing. I'm not saying there are no growers like that in Cali but they're still a minority. So there's still a lot to do outdoor, and possibilities are endless!!!

As far as the best spot to grow weed they are actually never lowlands as the best buds were always grown in the mountains close to equator. Colombian Gold, Nepalese Highland, Highland Thai, they are all high altitude buds.

 

[Organic Weed]

Re: Still Growing - SoCal Hybrids & Mexican & Colombian Sativas Under Sun Natural Sys

Then properly outdoor grown cannabis will not be less potent, it will be the same, and sometimes it will be more potent, but it will be definitely different :

I agree. However, basically all seeds today have been bred to fulfil indoor conditions. There has been decades of genetical modifications so that theses new varieties could become real bombs in controlled conditions under 600 HPS because mostly of law restrictions for cannabis. So the market has been moved in that direction for about 30/40 years. Somebody out there claims that these types of seeds could perform better in indoor conditions vs outdoor and what we should do is a re-codification of the same genetics but for outdoor conditions. Not too sure about that...

Another thing, mistake that outdoor growers in California are making now is that they still focus on quantity while prices of their pot tumbles down more and more with every year.
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Fully agree on this point. If I will ever grow outdoor one day -- hopefully I will -- I would do it in controlled conditions, i.e. 8 or 10 gals pots in the middle of an open space within a forest or something like that, despite the logistical nightmare and the big effort this could imply. Fertilising the soil from top may not be the same thing as preparing a good soil. Ideally in my opinion the ideal situation would be finding a suitable spot, taking the first 1 to 2 meters of soil, mix it with all the good ingredients you have based on your soil analysis, put the earth back to place with a plastic lining with some little holes at the bottom to avoid any major nutrient loss (more controlled condition and to allow some air exchange) and plant your clones... however, that could become very expensive... but people do that already in Cali, correct?