Sqwheels' Perpetual 2L Hempy + Moms

TheCrimsonK20 said:
it sounds like your meter may need to be recalibrated. I notice mine shifts occasionally, and I have to recalibrate the settings.
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We kind of chased our tail in a circle on this one over a couple of pages, but the conversation started with me just wanting to make sure that her meter was calibrated correctly as the PH test kit had such different numbers.

If the meter is relatively new, and you are calibrating it correctly, though, it should be accurate and I'd trust that over the strips ultimately. Do you do a calibrate it with more than 1 point/calibration solution? For example I calibrate at 4, 7 and 10 -- 3 point calibration.

It might be moot, as it looks like you are getting things resolved. Am I wrong, or do those look much healthier now? :)

Glad to see things looking better, Sqwheels!
 
Ahhhhhh....must have been while I was out of town and I missed it. :sorry:

What do you use to "check" your meter? If you have some calibration solution, you can simply test it (since you'll know the PH of the test solution) and then, only if it's off, calibrate the meter.
 
sqwheels said:
Hi OG,

I've got CannaBoost accelorator NPK 0-1-1 Derived from monopotassium phospate sugar cane vinasse

says to "apply at the start of blooming phase, usually 1-3 weeks after flower initiation. Can be used as a foliar spray as well, use up the mix in 7 days, 8ml/gal or double that for extra stimulation."

I do have Miracle Gro Bloom booster that I bought for a Hibiscus a few years back NPK 10-52-10, but is that MJ safe? I'd have to research that.

I tried to get a report from my water company, but the report they sent me was not the info I was looking for. Don't know any brewers...will try JozoSha. I went out and got a water test kit today, will do these and let you know what the results are.

Foliar feed epsom salts? 1 tsp per gal? Is the pH # important?

Thanks OG, I sooo appreciate the coaching. :adore:

:peace:
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I don't know if this will help you, but I stumbled upon it tonight and was about to post it on my journal. I remembered you saying you were having problems getting the water report and thought you'd be interested, so posting it here first! :)

University of Cincinnati - Drinking Water Quality
 
Xlr8 said:
We kind of chased our tail in a circle on this one over a couple of pages, but the conversation started with me just wanting to make sure that her meter was calibrated correctly as the PH test kit had such different numbers.

If the meter is relatively new, and you are calibrating it correctly, though, it should be accurate and I'd trust that over the strips ultimately. Do you do a calibrate it with more than 1 point/calibration solution? For example I calibrate at 4, 7 and 10 -- 3 point calibration.

It might be moot, as it looks like you are getting things resolved. Am I wrong, or do those look much healthier now? :)

Glad to see things looking better, Sqwheels!
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Hi X,

Yes my meter is new, less than a year. Yes I use calibration buffer 7. I never thought about using more than one. Good idea. I've seen 4 and 7, didn't know they made 10. Yeeess, they do look better. 420fied is right, they needed more N. The switch to GH helped. They look even better this morning.

Thanks for looking in on me. Hopfully I've overcome my problems
 
420fied,

Yep, you're right, more nutes :MoreNutes:

They look even better this morning, and yes I have to switch. They are gonna be much bigger than I intended.

Thanks for all the help and encouragment
 
Mr.K,

Good resource, thanks for thinking of me...unfortunately it doesn't include my water supply.

Pretty sure I've figured out what my problem was...not enough nutes, wrong kind of nutes. May not have been the pH at all. I'm new enough to growing that I wasn't sure what was wrong, but seasoned enough to know that something was wrong.
 
Glad to see them looking better, more nutes and flip to flower. Some of the clones will be ready soon (keep one for a mother right)!
 
OG,

That's the plan. :)
 
I would still get some reference solution and check you pH meter. I check mine at least once a month to make sure it's not drifting.

I don't think I've seen tap water that alkaline before, I would tend to think the chemical pH test is closer to the mark. I've seen most municipal water closer to the 7.0 range, at least in CA.
 
Glad to hear things are looking up some Sqwheels! :high-five:

@steve -- My tap water is pretty alkaline - something like 8.9? Over 8.5 anyway... I thought it was pretty high, too.
 
Hi All,

I have reference solution and I check it regularly. It's never been off more than .1 and my water wanders between 8.7-9.2 out of the tap. I've got a ppm meter on the way, should be here saturday. We will see.

Thanks for checking in on me...they do look much better now. I'm going to switch to 12/12...they will get their feeding @ 10pm friday and I'll shut the light off early on sat morning, then turn it back on sunday morning, and feed them again at that time. They have been needing about 18 oz every 24 hrs. The way I plan to do this they will be without for 34-35 hrs. I hope this doesn't cause them too much stress.

:peace:
 
Hi fromscratch,

Thanks for looking at my journal, yes input is always welcome...I'm new to growing and I like getting alot of different peoples comments. Different things work for different folks. It's all a learning experience for me at this point.

When I mix my nutes I do it in a gallon jug. I've saved several of them just for feeding the girls. I fill them and leave them sitting on the counter to bubble out the chlorine. After a couple days I grab one and mix in the nutes, then shake that jug up good, lots of shaking, then I just stick the meter into the top of the jug and swish a little and wait, swish a little more and wait...when the reading stops moving...that's it...I feed. May take 20 min tops. Since I've switched to the GH FloraNova I haven't had to adjust the pH, it comes out 5.9-6.1 everytime.

I've described this in my journal before and asked if I was doing this right...nobody told me no...so this is how I do it.

I did just get a tds meter and tested for the first time tonight...plain tap water, after sitting on the counter for a couple days is 231, after adding nutes to this it tested 891.

I have to figure out now, just how bad this is...
 
sqwheels said:
Hi fromscratch,

Thanks for looking at my journal, yes input is always welcome...I'm new to growing and I like getting alot of different peoples comments. Different things work for different folks. It's all a learning experience for me at this point.

When I mix my nutes I do it in a gallon jug. I've saved several of them just for feeding the girls. I fill them and leave them sitting on the counter to bubble out the chlorine. After a couple days I grab one and mix in the nutes, then shake that jug up good, lots of shaking, then I just stick the meter into the top of the jug and swish a little and wait, swish a little more and wait...when the reading stops moving...that's it...I feed. May take 20 min tops. Since I've switched to the GH FloraNova I haven't had to adjust the pH, it comes out 5.9-6.1 everytime.

I've described this in my journal before and asked if I was doing this right...nobody told me no...so this is how I do it.

I did just get a tds meter and tested for the first time tonight...plain tap water, after sitting on the counter for a couple days is 231, after adding nutes to this it tested 891.

I have to figure out now, just how bad this is...
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That MAY explain some of the issues!

Water that's over 200 PPM is considered "hard" water. Hard water is caused by high concentrations of Calcium and Magnesium. Also, hard water is likely to also have a high pH, because it is also high in elements that make the pH more alkaline.

GH makes a line of nutes specifically for hard water.

Also, do NOT use a water softener. These typically add salt which raises the levels of Magnesium.

You may, however, want to try a water filter to see if you can lower the PPM's to under 200.
:goodluck:
 
Like Mr Krip and fromscratch said.....helps explain your high pH. Do you have a Britta filter pitcher for drinking water or an undersink filter. May try some water through one of them to see if it improves anything. Both are cheaper than an RO system.
 
fromscratch, Mr.K, OG,

Thanks for checking in on my grow so regular...

I so appreciate the help. :circle-of-love:

I'll look into a filter of some kind to see if this makes a difference.

Ok, if I get a Mg lockout, because of hard water, is there something I can do? Either now, to help prevent, or later if it happens?

The Nute Def chart I've been using doesn't give any solutions to this problem...I just says "lower leaves yellow and may even turn white while the veins remain dark green. Blades die and curl upward." A couple of my lower leaves do look like this.

Trying to get an update posted...I went pics crazy so it's gonna take a while. :peace:
 
Hi all you happy growers :circle-of-love:

Ok, another weeks gone by and I've switched them to 12/12...here's a complete update.

If you've looked at my 2nd journal, you know I had a couple of white widows that hermied, well I put 4 of those White widow seeds in paper towel on the cable box on 8-23 (I'm new to growing and have since read several posts that tell you NOT to do it this way) But it worked perfectly and a couple days later I had sprouted seeds
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On the 25th, my buddy sent Wonder Woman home with me, I didn't know anything about her at the time
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After poking all those sprouts into root riot cubes, on the 27th they looked like this...
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So...from 8-28 until today 10-3, this is the beginning of week 6, so I switched to 12/12. On Saturday I turned the lights off and left my girls in the dark for 24hrs. When I turned the lights back on Sunday morning this is what they looked like (the light hasn't even come on all the way yet, that's why the color looks funny)
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Yesterday I removed a few really low branches and this morning I took a bunch a various shots for my update, here's another with the lights completely on
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Can you see the long hairs? Is that female? Or is it too early to tell, remember these seeds came from hermied female clones
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A closer view
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Here's another plant with similar hairs
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A closer view
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This is the UBT victim, it's probably a good thing I only ended up with 3 main colas on her. I don't think I have room for any more, by the time these girls mature this room is gonna be packed. I should have switched them a long time ago.
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Here's a pic of a lower leaf...I may be having issues because of hard water, too much Ca locking out Mg??
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Ok, enough about White Widow, this is Wonder Woman the day I topped her by 1/2 on 9-15
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and made 4 clones
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and today...just her top 3 branches, she's doubled in size
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and her clones, one of which I plan to try and bonsai...Have to talk to somebody about this, Fratdogg had one in POTM Sept that was a real beauty...I should ask him.
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I know I don't want to let these veg as big as the others so I'll have to figure something out to move them into flower next to the others :hmmm:

Ok, I guess that's it for now...I have some research to do. I want to learn when and how to add molasses to their food and about bonsai style growing so...

:green_heart:

Happy Growing Everybody
 
Mr Krip has the bonsai info, I've got molasses from Jozo-sha in my blog

Molasses

but you have seen that already. Plants look good now.
 
Hi there Girl! :Love:

Everything is looking good...beautiful girls.
Sorry I don't get by as often as I would like..as you know...busy, busy.

Don't know who told you not to pop seeds that way....it's the only way I do them...very few failures. Keep doing what your doing...it's working.
Now your going to do a bonsai? Your way past me now. :circle-of-love:
 
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