Sqwheels' Perpetual 2L Hempy + Moms

I'm going to let someone more knowledgeable about cloning chime in on your most recent questions... I believe that environment can contribute to certain traits being expressed or not expressed even if the original genetics are the same. Nutrient differences play a role in the coloration, etc.

Side note: I use trichome color (ambering) as a tool in my toolbelt to determine when to harvest, but not a definitive. Some plants just don't amber the same. I've seen plants that go right from clear to amber, some that get over-ripe without ambering, and plants that seem to have cloudy trich's way before it should. Also look for the false seedpods to swell and almost swallow the pistil, majority of the pistils to turn brown/red/etc., and breeder recommendations for harvest window. Then, sample them with a quick dry to see if you like the high. That's pretty much the whole picture I look at when determining harvest times. Mr. Krip shared a video from Ed Rosenthal that was enlightening - where he admitted that he used to go strictly by ambering, but has since changed his opinion on this and admits some strains/phenos can't be harvested optimally by using this criteria alone.

I don't know why your clones would show more amber than the original. They are the same age, though the 12/12 time should be what determines the amount of ambering I'd think...
 
Like X said, enjoy your awesome looking meds. Pretend it's like the old days and the killer buds have some seeds, not too much hassle, just takes you back a bit.....You already got some new genetics to play with correct?

I wouldn't overthink the Widow situation, it could be that the plant was more pollinated than the clones, so it finished sooner....
 
Hi X,

Thanks so much for the kind words and compliments, I'm a little impressed with myself, although like I've said many times, it's mostly the plants and their tolerance for my mistakes. Yes I have learned a lot. With each grow I learn a little more.

Thanks for the info on breeding/genetics and all, I'm sure I'll understand it better with more research :nomo: there's a lot to comprehend.

The main takeaway is of course don't breed with the Widow I have. Not to worry I've already thrown away the seeds and I never collected any pollen.

The genetics of the Wonder Woman are posted a few pages back...Wonder Woman is all female from two female plants, I'll go find it and repost in a little bit.

On the trics...I know it's not the only thing to harvest by, I've talked to my buddy who grows this all the time, he said 55-60days from first flowers. Unfortunately I didn't document that (didn't know, until it was too late) so I'm guessing at the actual time. I'll be sampling the buds I cut today soon, that will also help me decide. They look close. And I need to make room, I've already cut my next batch of clones (mom was sooo ready I had to) and I don't want them to veg too long like last time. I'm determined to do it right this time.

:thanks: for looking in and all the input.
 
Hi OG,

Ya, it's not been all that long since I smoked weed w/seeds. But I've been spoiled lately.

Yes, thanks to some new friends, I do have some new genetics to play with, Pineapple Express and OG kush x ultimate. I want to learn a little more about them before I start this time...it will only benefit me in the long run. In the meantime I've cut some more clones from the Wonder Woman mom I've been keeping and they will be my next grow...2L, Hempy, minimal veg time so I can actually do a SOG like 420fied. Mr.K sure hit a home run his first time. Hopefully I can do it too.

:thankyou:
 
Here's the post on Wonder Woman...Thanks again Fratdogg

Fratdogg223 said:
Awesome job Sqwheels! They're looking great, just keep doing what your doing! :thumb:

I found this in one of the strain libraries, and thought you might find it interesting since you had said you hadn't had a chance to read up on the strain.

Wonder Woman
[Nirvana Seed Bank]

Indica 60 / Sativa 40
Origins - Ice x Top 44
Flowering - 49-63 days
Harvest - Early October

This all-female strain is strong yet seductive, a fast-growing skunk with a pleasing, balanced high, and a truly heroic harvest - over half kilo per square meter.

Wonder Woman's mother is Ice, an award winning strain (1998 Cannabis Cup) that combines Afghani, Skunk, Northern Lights and Shiva genetics into a very stable plant with a rich layer of trichomes, a heavy stone and a fuel-like aroma. This mother was winner in the 1998 Cannabis Cup. Her father is actually another femal plant, a beautiful Top 44 that Nirvana manipulated using giverellic acid to produce male flowers. Top 44 is one of Nirvana's flagship commercial strains. It's the fastest-flowering indoor variety they have, ripe and ready in just over 6 weeks under perfect conditions. As a smoke, Top 44 is dep and skunky with a long lasting buzz. these parents give Wonder Woman her superpowers - fast maturation, mighty yields, feminized seeds (there are no males in the bunch), and a durable high. this amazing amazon lassos the stoner for a long, relaxing stay on Paradise Island, a land of bliss and contentment in body and mind.

Wonder Woman is incospicuous and does not branch too much, making her ideal for confined gardens such as balconies, or for sea of green farming. This 60/40 hybrid is quite indica in appearance, reaching only 2-3 feet when flowerin in induced at 1 foot. Outdoor plants usually reach a petite 4-5 feet at full maturity.

For the best THC levels, indoor cultivation is recommended. Nirvana prefers hydroponics for the strongest yields and the most solid colas. One especially good technique for Wonder Woman is to prune her top plus four branches, staking them in a sea of green setup with 16 plants per square meter. That can translate toa superheroic yield of 700 grams per square meter under 600 watts of light. This plant can also be pushed to high EC levels - 2.4 to 2.6 Outdoors, Wonder Woman produces mega-buds in Mediterranean climates like Spain or California, but her powers are weakened by mold susceptibility in humid areas. Wonder Woman's buds are very dense, and easy to trim.

Interestingly, Nirvana's website says 8-10 weeks... Just keep an eye on them, trichomes don't lie!

:Namaste:
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Hi Folks,

Late by a day...update. :thanks: for hangin' in there with me all this time. :circle-of-love: I'll be cutting them down tomorrow. My hands been forced, kinda...I'll explain in a sec...here's the :yummy: bud...

photos I took on Monday...Day 71 of 12/12 for the original plant, and day 63 for her 3 clones.
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Here are various bud shots, I don't remember for sure which is from which :sorry: I was in a hurry. I'll do my best to be accurate, but memory fades :tokin: I've been sampling, I think the first 4 shots are all Mom and the last 4 are of her babies

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When I opened the closet door this morning I found a mess, the clone in the far back corner had fallen over and off the table to the floor and spilled her mix everywhere, but she landed on her bottom and was just sitting there...in the process she tipped one of her sister into the mom and they were leaning precariously against the wall. So...me, with no trunk muscles or balance...let's just say I'm really surprised we all didn't end up on the floor. :)
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I took this pic this morning, after the clean up...I can't believe they/we all survived it, and nothing/nobody got hurt :yahoo: not one broken limb in the bunch.

So...because of the mishap, I got a good look at all the buds, and a bunch of trics...they are ready, all of them. I'm sure I'll be happy with the cured results...they smell wonderful, they're full and dense and really heavy for size. The samples I've tried are good for a quick dry, I'm sure the taste will be smoother with a good dry/cure.

These are the new babies
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I think I cut them too long this time, they are having a hard time getting started...just a couple thoughts/observations...the first time I cut clones, I was afraid I'd mess up, so I cut small. This time the donor was big and healthy and I was less afraid, and made longer cuts. I thought it would be better, bigger clones, but I'm not so sure that hold true now...they aren't rooting as quickly as the others, maybe there's too much plant to keep alive, and that's why they aren't rooting. I may just be over thinking it :lot-o-toke: still sampling...

wow! I've been workin' on this update for over an hour, time to wrap this up and go visiting.

:green_heart:

Happy Growing Everybody
 
Hi Twelve,
yep, harvest time :yahoo: :rollit: :ganjamon: :blunt:
 
Looks great, Sqwheels! :bravo:

Your clones look fine. The yellowing on the lower fan leaves tells me they're using up some stored nutes for root development. I think you'll be fine! :goodjob:
 
Glad to know I'm not the only one that's ever had plants dumped over on the floor! :grinjoint: The most important thing is that you didn't hurt yourself picking them up. :thumb: They look fat and sticky...I love it! :welldone:
 
The clones look good....it's hard to keep the humidity up when they are so big. You can trim more than one leaf/node and put multiple nodes in the rockwool/media to give more possible root sites.

plus reps for the oncoming harvest.
 
Hi Guys, sorry for the delay in replies...it's been a crazy busy week here for me. Harvest. Unexpected company. A whole day of making swedish meatballs for xmas dinner, a family tradition every year, but this year we did it at my house. WOW!

Mr. Krip said:
Looks great, Sqwheels! :bravo:

Your clones look fine. The yellowing on the lower fan leaves tells me they're using up some stored nutes for root development. I think you'll be fine! :goodjob:
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Hey Mr.K,
yep, they are doing fine...update to follow


OldMedMan said:
Wow! What a mess for you! Glad none were hurt! Time to harvest....this should be your best yet! I could see the picture of you cleaning it all up...you are realy something Girl. Brave too!

The babies look good too. :circle-of-love:
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Hi OMM,
Nope, no one got hurt. :phew: If you had actually seen me cleaning up that mess you'd be rofl, I nearly was :rofl: it was quite the sight I'm sure, if I had arms as long as an orangutan I'd have been all set. :clap: You may be right, this might be my best yet...update to follow


Fratdogg223 said:
Glad to know I'm not the only one that's ever had plants dumped over on the floor! :grinjoint: The most important thing is that you didn't hurt yourself picking them up. :thumb: They look fat and sticky...I love it! :welldone:
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Hey Frat,
It's was a first for me, hopefully not to be repeated, but it's all good, we survived to thive another day...yea, they are sticky, I love it too :high-five:


OG13 said:
The clones look good....it's hard to keep the humidity up when they are so big. You can trim more than one leaf/node and put multiple nodes in the rockwool/media to give more possible root sites.

plus reps for the oncoming harvest.
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Hi OG,
The clones are doing fine now, I think maybe I was a little worried for nothing, new mom and all :cheesygrinsmiley: I'm still trying hard not to make the newbie mistakes, like loving them too much...I did bury more than one node, I've tried to cut all my clones with 2 or 3 nodes then coat with clonex goo and then stick into the rooting cubes.

thanks for the reps, much appreciated. :thankyou:

Update coming in a few...:circle-of-love:
 
Hi All,

Wow...what a week.

Weekly Update ... Harvest...:cheertwo: :yahoo: :rollit:

Here's the fruits of all my labor...4 Wonder Woman plants. I got a total of 109.3 g. It's still a little damp, about 50% dry now, I figure I'll lose another 10-20g when it's all dry/cured. That's just my guess.
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a little better ligthing
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I should probably reserve my final smoke review until it's properly cured...but so far I'm happy...a quick dry of some little popcorn buds, the smell is like no other MJ I've had, it kinda reminds me of fresh cut hay and spice, maybe cumin,,,but the taste is nothing like that...the perfect description alludes me, it's something from my childhood...tutty fruity, I've been trying to put my finger on it for days now. Maybe a cross between the old beachmans gum and juicy fruit. And it gives just a slight spice burn in the end of my nose on exhale. It's really weird. The buzz is at first euphoric and upbeat, makes household chores a breeze... but if I smoke too much it makes me feel like a nap.

The clones are doing fine, I can tell they are actively growing now and will be ready for the flower room in a few days.
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Need a little input...since these clones are so young in terms of root development, only 17 days since cut...what would be best in terms of nutes? I'm thinking I should use a feeding schedule using a little of both the veg and bloom for the first few days of 12/12. Most people here use a concoction of stuff... 2 part, 3 part, add on's and whatnot... I'm using a simple single part GH floranova...one for veg NPK 7 4 10 and one for bloom NPK 4 8 7

Thanks for lookin'

:green_heart:

Happy Growing Everybody
 
Congrat's on the harvest, Sqwheels! :bravo:

They look and sound like some great meds and those Swedish meatballs, sound pretty darn good, too! :welldone:

You'll probably be fine either way, but I usually add some extra grow nutes in the first week of flower as a "transition" dose. I do this because, as I understand it, the plants use a lot of N during the first week stretch. But, the couple times I didn't do this and went with a "standard" week #1 bloom dose, the plants did fine and didn't show any N deficiencies, so it's probably more of a "cushion" than a "need".
 
:bravo: +Reps for a great grow, and harvest!... And for the Swedish meatballs!... Okay, I think I have the munchies now! :grinjoint:

:allgood:
 
Nice grow and nice harvest. Those are some beautiful buds you grew! +rep, it's been an honor and a pleasure following your grow. Can't wait to see the next round! :bravo:

Oh, and sure glad you got things cleaned up without your own tumble. I'm such a klutz these days - I'm always dropping something. Hope you are well! :)
 
Mr. Krip said:
Congrat's on the harvest, Sqwheels! :bravo:

They look and sound like some great meds and those Swedish meatballs, sound pretty darn good, too! :welldone:

You'll probably be fine either way, but I usually add some extra grow nutes in the first week of flower as a "transition" dose. I do this because, as I understand it, the plants use a lot of N during the first week stretch. But, the couple times I didn't do this and went with a "standard" week #1 bloom dose, the plants did fine and didn't show any N deficiencies, so it's probably more of a "cushion" than a "need".
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Hi Mr.K,
Yep, I'm happy with the results...MJ and meatballs both turned out good.

I think I'll feed just a couple of doses, like you said "transition" that first week, thanks for all the input...much appreciated :high-five:
 
Fratdogg223 said:
:bravo: +Reps for a great grow, and harvest!... And for the Swedish meatballs!... Okay, I think I have the munchies now! :grinjoint:

:allgood:
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Hey Frat,

:thankyou: for the reps, it was definately another learning experience. Have I said it lately? I love growing :)

Good luck with those munchies

:peace:
 
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