Sqwheels' Perpetual 2L Hempy + Moms

your plants look remarkably healthy. I've noticed myself with the widows they do stretch quite a bit more and have slower side branching than the wonder woman. I've only harvested one widow plant and the potency was below the wonder woman also, could have been a fluke, but we'll see this next time around.

Either way all of your plants look wonderful, you will have some thick colas in your near future!
 
High Sqweels!

I finally got caught up! The ladies are looking great!

As far as all the talk about being root-bound or not in a 2 liter bucket...hempy is hydro, as long as the roots are healthy and you don't have to water them 3 times a day, don't even think about it. :thumb:
 
Just caught up, they're looking great. I may have to give the 2 ltr thing a try. It looks like all the cool kids are doing it now.

Totally! I feel left out. It's like osmocote plus all over again, and me with my pricey nutes. ;)

(That was then, this is now -- Blue Planet nutes aren't pricey -- whew!)
 
Hi All,

Thanks for the great compliments on the girls, and they are all still girls.

Sorry I haven't been around much, I really hurt myself last weekend and had to stay off the pc... it just intensified the back pains, but I think things are getting back to normal.

I'll be posting an update tomorrow some time...with more pics. The 3 Wonder Woman clones are getting very nice little buds now. But still too branchy. I'm going to have to move them to 12/12 alot sooner from now on.

Now to try and catch up on all my subs...:circle-of-love:
 
Hi All...Weekly Update

I went a little picture crazy this week, hope nobody minds. :Love:

First a group shot, I had to find a way to move the original Wonder Woman up to the light. I'm having to use boxes to prop up the girls to make the tops all the same height because they are at all different stages of growth. The White Widow (front left) looks huge compared to the rest, it's an illusion, she's only about 3" taller, the light is about 2" above that.

I didn't achieve my original goal of mimicking 420fied's single cola SOG but I've got a sea of something growing in here...Shot before the box
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And after
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These are misc shots of the original Wonder Woman, I think it's time to defoliate some of the fan leaves. When I originally topped her it left 3 main branches and a couple of smaller side shoots...
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these 3 branches have just loaded up with buds,

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and each has a fat little bulb under it, can anybody tell me the technical name for this little piece of plant anatomy?

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Notice the little thing under the bud right by where the fan leaf attaches, you can see two sets in this shot, one at the top and one at the bottom


Here's some shots of the only White Widow I have left of the 4 seeds I planted...The main cola is too tall to capture in one photo

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It's odd...this stalks nodes are all about 1" apart until I switched to 12/12, after that the nodes stretched to about 2" apart.

I'm a little concerned about the way some of the smaller leaves are looking, kinda thin and curling under...any ideas? Notice the smaller leaves at 3 and 9 o'clock

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the buds look pretty good, but the leaves concern me, I think they should be flat and open


On to the 3 clones I took from the original Wonder Woman, they are the three on the right in the Group Shot, I've got them on a box also for light purposes, here I've tried to fit them all into one shot, they are kind of stalky, I should have switched them to 12/12 a week sooner than I did (will know better next time) These have been in flower for 2 weeks today

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And a couple misc bud shots

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And finally, the top from the original Wonder Woman chop, I took 4 clones, 3 of them are in the flower room and this one I'm still vegging, she's going to give me more clones in a couple of weeks and I plan to use one of them to try the Bonsai Mom technique...I know I've said this before but this time I'm prepared to actually do it right. I think :)

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another angle
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This shot shows a little yellowing on the very tips of her new growth, I think maybe too much nutes, or not enough water in the res. I hope I corrected this with todays feeding.

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I think she has lots of potential as a mother, I brought her out and measured her, she's about a foot tall now and has lots of bush to her

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Ok, some thoughts...a little foggy ;) I've been enjoying a little White Widow from my first grow while creating this monster of an update.

My challenge right now, because they are all different heights, is to keep them all at a level where they get as much light as possible. The White Widow and original Wonder Woman are 21 days in flower and the 3 Wonder Woman clones are at 15 days.

I have a Wonder Woman in 24/0, 2x23wcfl just waiting to donate. The last clones I waited 18 days from clip to 12/12 and that was too long...they are too branchy now.

So, I don't want to take any new clones until around 2 weeks to harvest what's in flower, that way I'll be able to cut clones, veg for 7-10 days maybe (just long enough to see roots in the cubes) then move to 12/12. I hope this will prevent any branching and give me just a cola with buds. I don't know if I can ever achieve 420fied's results because of the way our cuttings are rooted, all his clones are about the same size when he puts them into flower, I don't know if that will be the case with me using raw cuttings and rooting cubes...we shall see

WOW...It's a long one, I hope it all posts.

Thanks for reading...as always all comments welcome

:green_heart:

Happy Growing Everybody
 
The little "pod" is called a calyx, same as on the buds. Remember the first white pistils/preflowers occurred there. Looking good, nice job keeping them near the light. A little defoliation near the top would definitely help the lower buds. You could also trim some of the lowest branches off, since they won't yield much--focus the energy on the top colas where the light is for photosynthesis.
 
I'm a little concerned about the way some of the smaller leaves are looking, kinda thin and curling under...any ideas? Notice the smaller leaves at 3 and 9 o'clock

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the buds look pretty good, but the leaves concern me, I think they should be flat and open

That looks like a classic case of "the claw" to me... The plant telling you it's getting a bit too much nitrogen.

It doesn't look too bad, sometimes the plant will adjust...if not you might see some burnt tips next, I'd go a little easy with the nutes.

I'm not sure how you water them, I know 420fied has it down to a science and aims for very little run-off, but I seem to remember (when there was a hempy thread) that some folks liked to plug the hole and water until the bucket was almost full and then let everything drain out except for what's in the res... Sort of a mini flush. Might be worth a shot with some plain water before your next feeding to remove any built up salts if you are worried about it.
 
Hi Sqwheels, Just had to drop in. I followed your last grow and will be looking in on this one. Have to go back to the start and read what's happened up till now. Must say looks like you're having success again while learning. TTYl
 
Hey Fratdogg,

I think you may be right. I've been feeding a pretty high ppm. I'll flush with plain water and see if it helps...

I feed the same way 420fied does...a slow dribble all around the edges of the bottle/pot, a little hole 2" from the bottom creates a res, as soon as it starts to leak out I stop pouring...they currently need 14-16 oz a day. I'm pretty sure the res is nearly empty every morning because the 2ltr weighs almost nothing, and if I tip it to the side nothing comes out the hole. That's why I feed everyday. I should be watering too, evidently.

They need a rinse/flush. When I do this, I bring them to the sink and quickly flood them right to the top, let it all drain, tip it sideways, drain some more, flood again and repeat.

is it necessary to pH the flush water down? My tap water is 230-240ppm and 8.7-9.1 pH. Something I read in a thread a while back said too much pH down was a BAD thing for the girls.

Also I have a Canna product called PK13/14, label says 0-10-11. Maybe I should feed that alone the next time. So far I've only given a couple doses of molasses for the K.

I definately have some hard water issues to deal with, I just don't want to overreact and make the problem worse.

Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated :peace:
 
Hi Legalish,

Welcome to :420:

and

:thankyou: for visiting my journal

...yep a learning experience every day. I hope you find something here to use to your benefit. Thats what it's all about.

Don't be shy...I like input.

:peace:
 
Hey Fratdogg,

I think you may be right. I've been feeding a pretty high ppm. I'll flush with plain water and see if it helps...

I feed the same way 420fied does...a slow dribble all around the edges of the bottle/pot, a little hole 2" from the bottom creates a res, as soon as it starts to leak out I stop pouring...they currently need 14-16 oz a day. I'm pretty sure the res is nearly empty every morning because the 2ltr weighs almost nothing, and if I tip it to the side nothing comes out the hole. That's why I feed everyday. I should be watering too, evidently.

They need a rinse/flush. When I do this, I bring them to the sink and quickly flood them right to the top, let it all drain, tip it sideways, drain some more, flood again and repeat.

is it necessary to pH the flush water down? My tap water is 230-240ppm and 8.7-9.1 pH. Something I read in a thread a while back said too much pH down was a BAD thing for the girls.

Also I have a Canna product called PK13/14, label says 0-10-11. Maybe I should feed that alone the next time. So far I've only given a couple doses of molasses for the K.

I definately have some hard water issues to deal with, I just don't want to overreact and make the problem worse.

Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated :peace:

Hey, Sqwheels - looking good! :bravo:

I would PH the flush water simply because you won't get all of it out of the hempy and you don't want it to adversely effect the PH of your nute solution once you add your nutes back in. It certainly wouldn't hurt to do a feeding with only the PK13/14 or even with just plain water. Many people doing hempys feed with plain water ever couple of feedings since nutes build up in the medium.

420fied feeds with every feeding, and that's what I've been doing also with the plants going right into flower, but especially for mom's that you'll be keeping for some time in the same medium, they can be on a lighter dose of nutes and don't necessarily need nutes with every feeding, and should be flushed periodically.
 
Xlr8, Mr.k,

Thanks for the advice guys, I could use that ro unit right about now. :)

I know what I'll be doing today :Love:
 
I'm going to chime in a little regarding the clawing you're having.. I get this on my super lemon haze every time I grow it, I have run it for about 5 generations now and every time I get the claw.. I had a ph issue where the ph was way too low and after a good flush, it straightened out a lot of the leaves. I thought it was getting too much N so I cut it back just a little and the older fans turned yellow and died off as they should but it seemed to be spreading faster than I would have liked at that stage, which would indicate a bit of a N deficiency.. I resumed normal feeding and the yellowing stopped, and the clawing hasn't gotten better or worse..

Still trying to figure it out. From all the plants I've grown, I've only had this on the SLH.. Quite odd.

Your wonder woman plants are looking great. I've been smoking on some myself lately, really good stuff. When I first got the strain, there were practically no grow reports or journals anywhere on the strain. It's good to see it's getting out there more, its resilient and amazing smoke/plant. I've abused mine so much and it has never thrown a male flower.. Mine were fem seeds too!
 
Hi CK20,

I'm quite new and don't have much experience, I know I have hard water issues to deal with also. The only plant that had this claw thing was the White Widow, and it wasn't really that bad, but I knew something didn't look quite right. I pH'd several gallons of water to between 5.8-6.0, flooded Ms.Widow with 2 of them and then just watered the rest with plain water. The original wonder woman is in promix and the 3 wonder woman clones are a week behind and these aren't showing any signs of the claw, actually they look really good, but I hadn't been giving any plain water and that was a mistake. From now on I'll be watering every third day, I think this should be better. And I'm going to cut my ppm's from 1300 to 1100 and add in a little more epsom, I've been using just a 1/2 t /gal. That alone adds 250ppm to the mix.

I'm actually not sure I'm giving nutes properly...still studying on how they uptake, how much they need and when, that kind of stuff. But I'm no chemist and it's complicated. And sooo many different opinions on things.

Also I picked a bunch of the fan leaves off of the white widow and the original wonder woman, they are @ day 23 of flower. It let alot of light into the plants onto the smaller/lower buds. And the wonder woman is getting real sticky, but there's not alot of smell in there. :hmmm: Maybe it's too soon still, I don't remember when exactly it started smelling real strong last time.

I'll be defoliating the wonder woman clones next week, they'll be at 21 days on Monday. Some of the leaves on those girls are bigger than my hand.

:peace:
 
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