Spimps NLxBB Auto Micro CFL's 2013

My uncle told me a story of how he and my dad drove 20 mile out of town to buy some cannabis in the early 90s and they paid £100 for a bin liner full! Block hashish/squidgy black/resin was all the rage and actual cannabis was not in fashion so it was dirt cheap. Man that must be nice.
I'm not sure how exadurated his recollection is but he's a pretty strate guy

Rune .... I get what your saying about the dispenserys. But man I would love to have that choice at my fingertips. Plus I assume ithas to be medical grade pretty nice nugs (although I did see the magnified pik "yuk")
I wonder how hard those dispenserys are taxed. Over here if is was legalised in the way say Cali is the taxation would be incredible
I mean we pay £6.50-£7.00 per gallon of petrol!! Taxation gone crazy
 
And thats why we are on this side of the pond sir. :) :rofl: You damn Euro's and your taxes
. Over here we just get people addicted to perscriptions so the politicians can line thier pockets from the lobbyists. And still get taxed on everything, just not as bad as you guys. ;)
 
I totally understand on that... and we're catching up on gas pretty quickly... if you consider the quality of gas and diesel here as opposed to where you are, then factor in the difference in milage between your average vehicles and ours, I think we actually got worse off on gas a couple years ago... 25mpg is considered decent to good, and that's on unleaded gas, diesel you might see 40 - 60mpg, depending on the car (60 being the Smart car from in EU, which gets more than twice the milage over there), so I feel ya there.

Taxation varies based on state for the dispensaries, then by county or city, so it's crazy diverse. If your government would stop this stupid "war on drugs" crap with cannabis and just legalize and tax it, it would work out a lot better here. I admit, when you have the cash, it's nice to be able to walk in, show your card/referral and pick up some herb/edibles/tincture/wax/etc... but the cost isn't much different. I will say, you don't get crap weed like you can on the streets, but the quality isn't usually as good as a good home grow either because it's done on a commercial scale. Most dispensaries don't cure more than 1 to 2 weeks either... so it has it's upsides and downsides, but more up than down except for the price.
 
Ok, heres my no so popular take on legilizing weed. It needs to be completely legal, like apples, or stay like it is. I dont want dispensaries being able to grow and I cant. If I want to grow tobacco I can. If I want to grow wine grapes i can. If I want to brew my own beer I can. Why not MJ? urely for money explotation and preying on the citizens...
If it was only legal through dispensaries, it only changes which gangsta is making the jack. Now it would be the White Corporate Gangsta. And he is usually the least apt to help others.
Only through complete and total legalization will the price drop, the quality rise and the consumer win.
I cant envision a system where a store has decent bud at price X, but the street has better at price 3/4X, and the consumer doesnt advert the system. Until the Federal government legilizes weed, Even the church going, glasses wearing, sweet old lady in line at the dispencary is considered a criminal. Dont forget that. Even Colorado where people "think" ts legal. Its not. You can go to jail for federal time if our government wanted you there.

The states can say whatever they want but its like a babysitter letting you stay up past curew. If dad comes home early, your ass is still whipped.

Sorry, very ranty today. :)
 
Very very well said spimp sir :) I could listen to that type of rant all night

Rune sir I here u also on the dispenserys. I gues I'm sick at it being 100% illegal here
About the gas.... I don't think the quality of gas in uk differs greatly to USA. I think your 25mpg averages compared to uk 35-65mpgis more around the American viechles haviving engines that could quite frankly power a 7-4-7 lol
An average engine here ma be a 1.9 tdi with 150bhp average 45 mpg
You guys have 5.4litre pick ups with a million bhp lol
Cars are more economical here simply because if they weren't we couldn't afford them
I'd love a big daft truck or a old camero or something like that but no way could we run them
 
alex801 said:
Ideal world I yield enough to see between harvests
Rant over :)
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Hahaha alex we love to rant dont we,. and as you said that is my goal too. i think with this coming up harvest i might be able to manage if i get some autos going.
 
Spimp said:
And thats why we are on this side of the pond sir. :) :rofl: You damn Euro's and your taxes
. Over here we just get people addicted to perscriptions so the politicians can line thier pockets from the lobbyists. And still get taxed on everything, just not as bad as you guys. ;)
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I hear your guys taxation is pretty messed up too, and i also herd that if youre and usa person :P living outside the us doing work you gotta pay taxes to the US as well is that true? thats pretty whack taxation boss. all in all third world is where you wanna be in terms of low taxation. but third worlds are also the ones that tend to have the death penalty etc etc for possession or anything to do with it. Thats where you need the money to get out of the shit you got into for bribes etc. :P
 
Lol, yeah, but honestly, those vehicles don't get more than about 14 - 18mpg, the 25 - 30mpg are the "economy cars". when they brought the smart car over, they did something to it so it only gets 45 - 50mpg here... it's ridiculous. And yeah, the legality issues are total BS man, absolute and total BS.
 
Spimp said:
Ok, heres my no so popular take on legilizing weed. It needs to be completely legal, like apples, or stay like it is. I dont want dispensaries being able to grow and I cant. If I want to grow tobacco I can. If I want to grow wine grapes i can. If I want to brew my own beer I can. Why not MJ? urely for money explotation and preying on the citizens...
If it was only legal through dispensaries, it only changes which gangsta is making the jack. Now it would be the White Corporate Gangsta. And he is usually the least apt to help others.
Only through complete and total legalization will the price drop, the quality rise and the consumer win.
I cant envision a system where a store has decent bud at price X, but the street has better at price 3/4X, and the consumer doesnt advert the system. Until the Federal government legilizes weed, Even the church going, glasses wearing, sweet old lady in line at the dispencary is considered a criminal. Dont forget that. Even Colorado where people "think" ts legal. Its not. You can go to jail for federal time if our government wanted you there.

The states can say whatever they want but its like a babysitter letting you stay up past curew. If dad comes home early, your ass is still whipped.

Sorry, very ranty today. :)
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No problem... I agree.. let them tax it if you buy it, just like beer, wine and cigarettes/cigars/etc... that's fine, but yeah, we should be able to grow as individuals as well. Most people won't... just like most people don't grow their own fruits and veg... it's not that hard, but it does take time and a little mindfulness and most folks don't want to mess with that, so there would still be stupid big levels of profit to be made by manufacturers and distributors and tons of taxes to be collected by national and local governments. But you've got to get past all the plastic, fake morals that politicians throw up as masks to hide the fact that they need to steal more tax money and more assets from people and this is a very good way to do so. It also props up their buddies, the alchohol, tobacco and big pharma lobbyists.

Ick, that said, it being illegal is what makes the prices so ridiculous and the quality so variable... it also of course, makes it more dangerous, which isn't good, so staying illegal isn't a good solution. I'd rather see full legalization, but I'd settle for decriminalization on a wide scale and legal can come later.
 
I love these talks on this matter it's really interesting to see that a lot of us on the community have the same outlook on the matter, and its a fair point that we do as we all love the same plant. Just very interesting that were all informed and see the plain truth behind it all even though we're in different countries around the world. It's quite awesome!
 
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runewulfsong said:
no problem... I agree.. Let them tax it if you buy it, just like beer, wine and cigarettes/cigars/etc... That's fine, but yeah, we should be able to grow as individuals as well. Most people won't... Just like most people don't grow their own fruits and veg... It's not that hard, but it does take time and a little mindfulness and most folks don't want to mess with that, so there would still be stupid big levels of profit to be made by manufacturers and distributors and tons of taxes to be collected by national and local governments. But you've got to get past all the plastic, fake morals that politicians throw up as masks to hide the fact that they need to steal more tax money and more assets from people and this is a very good way to do so. It also props up their buddies, the alchohol, tobacco and big pharma lobbyists.

Ick, that said, it being illegal is what makes the prices so ridiculous and the quality so variable... It also of course, makes it more dangerous, which isn't good, so staying illegal isn't a good solution. I'd rather see full legalization, but i'd settle for decriminalization on a wide scale and legal can come later.
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let me explain something to all of you in the united states. My father (god bless his soul) use to tell us "you live in the most crookedest city of the most crookedest state of the most crookedest country in the world". Your best to believe that the government has already decided to legalize cannabis and the only reason why they come down on the states that already have is because they can't collect on the proceeds. With government raids and arrest they collect tax dollars from that state. The only reason it hasn't been nationally legalized yet is they're still trying to devise the correct platform balance between political correctness and maximized taxation. Do you think prohibition ended because of the violence? It ended because the crooks in government devised the correct platform.
 
Hey Broke, I actually largely agree. When I was a teenager in the 90's, I saw some rather large plantations and processing facilities out in VA that were owned by (I believe, foggy memory) R.J. Reynolds. Well, while I was there, I managed to meet a manager for another RJ place and he said that land and processing center were ready and waiting for cannabis legalization... so yeah, it's been decided, the question is when... and the answer to that, who knows. From my life as a corporate exec involved in healthcare, I know that big pharma lobbies hard against it, because they lose a lot of potential $$$... I know the DEA rails against it because that's the blackhole of funding right there and I know that the religious lobbies fight against it, which our corrupt politicians often cave to so that they don't offend their constituents. But most of the issues we deal with regarding cannabis in this country is all because of the prohibition against it.

Generally speaking though, I do agree with your pops on that... our government is stupid corrupt and bent over by big business and the 1%.
 
Everybody thinks "The New World Order" is a conspiracy of sorts. We are finding out that big business is controlling the government and the president is just a puppet and figure head.
 
I don't buy into the NWO stuff, however as a student of history, anthropology and sociology, I can agree that the power in a population isn't the person "in charge" most of the time, it's the "entities which have the money and resources" that have the real power, which sucks big time... but I don't buy into one overreaching conspiracy... now do I believe there are a lot of smaller ones, ohhh yeah... dodged a few in my days in IT security back in the day.

It honestly sucks that folks can't get along, I don't mean all Mr. Rogers and Barney crap, but that we have people who want nothing more than to take more and more until there's nothing left for everyone else... there is a fairly fixed amount that anyone needs, even over several lifetimes. But I don't understand when greed exceeds need to a ridiculous degree.
 
and that's what makes this country great; the freedom to reach for astronomical greed
 
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