runewulfsong
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Now if we could just teach them to reach for...hmmm, I don't know... let's see... sustainability, common sense and general decency? rofl
Spimps NLxBB Auto Micro CFL's 2013
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ChopBro
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Happy Skunkday my friends 
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Picture time!!
BLUE 21 days from sprout:
The yellowing was starting to concern mea little. Not so much on the bottom leaves, but the new growth is a little plae as well. So I watered with 3t/gallon FFGB
NLxBB auto 46 days since sprout:
There is some slight leaf damage. Maybe 3 total leaves have spots, and some slight yellowing. Im not too concerned. I think this is from the flush and lack of nutes. But the overall health seems very good so I choice to not treat. I will continue the current schedule of feedings unless things get worse.
Im thinking I have less than a month left on her given my 70.5 day guess of harvest.
BLUE 21 days from sprout:
The yellowing was starting to concern mea little. Not so much on the bottom leaves, but the new growth is a little plae as well. So I watered with 3t/gallon FFGB
NLxBB auto 46 days since sprout:
There is some slight leaf damage. Maybe 3 total leaves have spots, and some slight yellowing. Im not too concerned. I think this is from the flush and lack of nutes. But the overall health seems very good so I choice to not treat. I will continue the current schedule of feedings unless things get worse.
Im thinking I have less than a month left on her given my 70.5 day guess of harvest.
A fine Skunkday to you Spimp
Flower Child
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Good weed Spimp. The girls look great- is that a bud on blue already or is it a cluster of leaves?
The girls look great- is that a bud on blue already or is it a cluster of leaves?- Thread starter
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Cluster of new leaves. Although I had first pistol at day 27ish from NLxBB so Blue should show in the next week or so.
Maxximilian
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Yeah good luck with that.
CrimsonBlitz
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Good weed Spimp. Your girls are hauling ass, you slipping them steroids? lol I can tell that train is just getting started too. Props 
Vegas flower
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Okay I was silently subbed but this conversation has taken a turn for the good. Nice journal Spimp! I enjoyed your first as well. I love the free flow of information here. Thanks for your efforts boys!
I will go vote now!
VF
I will go vote now!
VF
CajunCelt
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Looking good. I love the NLxBB.
runewulfsong
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Looks good Spimpster... don't know if this will help you or not, but all I was using was FFGB in the intial stages of grow and I noticed some occassional issues, including a bit of yellowing, until I added in a small dose of tigerbloom as well, or some GH micro I had sitting around. I think FFGB is missing some of the micronutrients. Now that said, I'm hydro, not dirt right now, so I'm not sure if it's the same issue for you or not. Just a thought... lookin good though, nice fat leaves and those budsicles are gonna be yummmmmy 
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Always a great day when Sir Fish Cake visits sir.A fine Skunkday to you Spimp
In the US, common sense ain't so common...
Good weed Spimp. Your girls are hauling ass, you slipping them steroids? lol I can tell that train is just getting started too. Props
If Im giving them PED's, but to me MJ is a PED for me, Did I just go back to the future?? 
Good weed sir. Welcome to the Ghetto kind sir. I hope you enjoy this site, it has been very good to me. Great people here from all walks of lifee, different opinions on pretty much everything... except 1 thing. 
Me to. This is the auto version but I have been impressed so far.
Looks good Spimpster... don't know if this will help you or not, but all I was using was FFGB in the intial stages of grow and I noticed some occassional issues, including a bit of yellowing, until I added in a small dose of tigerbloom as well, or some GH micro I had sitting around. I think FFGB is missing some of the micronutrients. Now that said, I'm hydro, not dirt right now, so I'm not sure if it's the same issue for you or not. Just a thought... lookin good though, nice fat leaves and those budsicles are gonna be yummmmmy
That sir, is a damn fine idea sir. Im gonna see if I can find a breakdown in the micro dept of GB because that makes sense from what Ive seen with my eyes. A simple fluh really starved out these girls alot morethan I thought. I have tried to use soil's that have very low if any NPK values (I think next round I will try a simple 'super soil' if thier is such a thing) so I relize I need to add everything. But considering she was way dark green, that much nute should have been ok for one flush without starving. Her N levels appear fine on mid-upper leaves but the spotting and leaf yellow look to have a micro issue possible. Not bad enough for me to run and buy alot, but noticable. But when i used only TB last grow, i noticed the yellowing seemed more like N gettingsucked out, the spots didnt worsen at all.
BTW, went fishing for a couple hours. Caught 1 Perch.
BUUUTTTTT A bad day fishin' is better than a good day workin!! 
you know your thinking of the gdp for your next grow, well instead of using a plastic pot would it not be worth just cutting a hole in a big of compost and lie that down in the grow space, you could pretty much shape the bag into any size and use as much or as little compost as you like, then you could stake the plant down to train it to fill the grow space.
the only issue would be is the humidity levels due to size of plant and grow space so bud rot might be an issue unless you had enough air moving over the branches, with a photo plant you would be able to get a bigger plant and you could start the plant in one end of the grow bag and use lst to keep pulling it over so the top of the plant grows horizontal, what this would then do is give you many tops as all the growth at each node would grow upwards, so as long as you trained the top of the plant to run the length of the grow bag the side branches would all turn into top branches,
so you could plant the seedling or seed in the end of the grow bag, onces its about 5 or 6 inches high use some stakes and lst and pull it right over so the top of the plant is facing the other side of the grow space, then every few days just move the stake and tie the top of the plant down again, doing this would give you a very even canopy across the whole length of the plant, once you reached the end of the grow space leave the last lst where it is and let the tip of the plant grow up so it also becomes the top of the plant, im pretty sure this method would get you a decent yield,
plus if you had room to the front and back of the grow space as well as side to side then you could even train the side branches to grow to the front and back of the grow space by using lst on them, this would basically end up looking like a decent scrog but without the screen,
it just means starting the plant at one end of the grow space and not in the middle, then train it until you happy with the size plus by the time the top of the plant has reached the other end of the grow space all the growth at the nodes would be growing pretty quick as they would be the top of the plant,
its a method i have tried in the past, i planted a plant at one end of a pot and when it was 4 nodes high i just pinned it down so the stem was running across the top of the pot, then all the side branches grew like crazy as they was now higher than the end of the plant, so all the side branches where fighting to become the top cola, in the end it looked like it had 5 or 6 plants growing out of 1 pot, gave me some really fat buds as well,
the seed you got from the gdp could possibly be a self polinated seed, if you leave a plant in flower for to long then it will produce its own seeds, ive had it happen once or twice, if harvested an auto and found just 1 seed in the middle of the plant and at the time i was not crossing or even growing males for pollen so the plant self polinated, so that gdp has a good chance of turning out as a fem gdp,
the problem is if your not sure its a fem then you could end up growing a plant and have to plant another due to it turning out male,
the only issue would be is the humidity levels due to size of plant and grow space so bud rot might be an issue unless you had enough air moving over the branches, with a photo plant you would be able to get a bigger plant and you could start the plant in one end of the grow bag and use lst to keep pulling it over so the top of the plant grows horizontal, what this would then do is give you many tops as all the growth at each node would grow upwards, so as long as you trained the top of the plant to run the length of the grow bag the side branches would all turn into top branches,
so you could plant the seedling or seed in the end of the grow bag, onces its about 5 or 6 inches high use some stakes and lst and pull it right over so the top of the plant is facing the other side of the grow space, then every few days just move the stake and tie the top of the plant down again, doing this would give you a very even canopy across the whole length of the plant, once you reached the end of the grow space leave the last lst where it is and let the tip of the plant grow up so it also becomes the top of the plant, im pretty sure this method would get you a decent yield,
plus if you had room to the front and back of the grow space as well as side to side then you could even train the side branches to grow to the front and back of the grow space by using lst on them, this would basically end up looking like a decent scrog but without the screen,
it just means starting the plant at one end of the grow space and not in the middle, then train it until you happy with the size plus by the time the top of the plant has reached the other end of the grow space all the growth at the nodes would be growing pretty quick as they would be the top of the plant,
its a method i have tried in the past, i planted a plant at one end of a pot and when it was 4 nodes high i just pinned it down so the stem was running across the top of the pot, then all the side branches grew like crazy as they was now higher than the end of the plant, so all the side branches where fighting to become the top cola, in the end it looked like it had 5 or 6 plants growing out of 1 pot, gave me some really fat buds as well,
the seed you got from the gdp could possibly be a self polinated seed, if you leave a plant in flower for to long then it will produce its own seeds, ive had it happen once or twice, if harvested an auto and found just 1 seed in the middle of the plant and at the time i was not crossing or even growing males for pollen so the plant self polinated, so that gdp has a good chance of turning out as a fem gdp,
the problem is if your not sure its a fem then you could end up growing a plant and have to plant another due to it turning out male,
alex801
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Happy Mondays spimp
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Thats a very good idea donpaul.p. I had invisioned starting it atone end and training towards the other but the bag in the box I had not. And I hadt considered the humidity issue either. Several very good points as always donpaul.p. Thank you sir. It would be a pain to get the box filled up and she be a he.
Alex, not quite but we will be caught up soon enough.
Alex, not quite but we will be caught up soon enough.
not a problem my friend,
but even a femenised seeds does not alway mean you will end up with a fem plant, i have had 2 males from femenised seeds that i have purchashed, i had them replaced for free with fem seeds of the same name but from different batch of seeds but they call them femenised and not female as some can still turn out male
one option open to you is the female you got growing, you could either take a clone and reveg it giving you a monster cropped plant, or after harvest leave some of the smallest bits of growth on the plant nearest the stem and remove from the pot its in and put it in another pot or strait into a bag of compost then put the lights back to veg schedule and reveg it that way, that will guarantee you have got a female
a reveg means you get a monster cropped plant, this means many many branches and an increase in yield from 20 to 40% for the same size plant due to the amount of extra branches, it would take 2 to 3 weeks to get it back into veg but it would be quicker than growing from seed, but it would need a bit of training or you could just remove some of the branches like i do as you end up with a crazy bushy plant,
or you could build a slightly bigger room with more height and foot print, that would stop the humidity problems and allow you to grow a bigger plant and you would easily hit 2 to 3 oz per plant then, so you do have a few options, the only thing you need to make sure is that the grow space is totally dark during lights off in flower, as long as you can do that with a new grow box then you will be ok
just depends how much space you got and if its something you have room for,
a reveg is something to consider if you like the strain, the problem with just having small branches like you have got is that the buds wont get that fat so if you wanted to increae yield then more veg time would be needed and possibly a slightly bigger grow space,
i think 2 or 3oz per plant would be a good goal to aim for, that would give you enough bud between grows to make you self sufficient,
if you wanted to sort of stagger harvest then when you put a plant under 12-12 you could start another plant on a window sill then when that plant has finished flowering you have got a plant thats grown enough to pretty much go strait under 12-12 for the next round of flowering,
but its all down to risk and how much space you can get away with using without having others know what your up to
but even a femenised seeds does not alway mean you will end up with a fem plant, i have had 2 males from femenised seeds that i have purchashed, i had them replaced for free with fem seeds of the same name but from different batch of seeds but they call them femenised and not female as some can still turn out male
one option open to you is the female you got growing, you could either take a clone and reveg it giving you a monster cropped plant, or after harvest leave some of the smallest bits of growth on the plant nearest the stem and remove from the pot its in and put it in another pot or strait into a bag of compost then put the lights back to veg schedule and reveg it that way, that will guarantee you have got a female
a reveg means you get a monster cropped plant, this means many many branches and an increase in yield from 20 to 40% for the same size plant due to the amount of extra branches, it would take 2 to 3 weeks to get it back into veg but it would be quicker than growing from seed, but it would need a bit of training or you could just remove some of the branches like i do as you end up with a crazy bushy plant,
or you could build a slightly bigger room with more height and foot print, that would stop the humidity problems and allow you to grow a bigger plant and you would easily hit 2 to 3 oz per plant then, so you do have a few options, the only thing you need to make sure is that the grow space is totally dark during lights off in flower, as long as you can do that with a new grow box then you will be ok
just depends how much space you got and if its something you have room for,
a reveg is something to consider if you like the strain, the problem with just having small branches like you have got is that the buds wont get that fat so if you wanted to increae yield then more veg time would be needed and possibly a slightly bigger grow space,
i think 2 or 3oz per plant would be a good goal to aim for, that would give you enough bud between grows to make you self sufficient,
if you wanted to sort of stagger harvest then when you put a plant under 12-12 you could start another plant on a window sill then when that plant has finished flowering you have got a plant thats grown enough to pretty much go strait under 12-12 for the next round of flowering,
but its all down to risk and how much space you can get away with using without having others know what your up to
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Inspired by donpaul.p, and Blue Dream--- I present to you,
Persistance of Spimpery
Persistance of Spimpery
nice, thats what you will end up with, many big fat buds, this type of grow is best for cfls due to the low penetration of light, you can grow big plants with cfls but you would need lights above and down the sides of the plants which is how i grew when i first started, but a scrog or lst like this would be the best option,
that pic above would be something id go with if i was still using cfls for the full grow, with enough veg time you will get a good yeild,
if you do go with the grow bag just make sure you poke holes along the bottom, top and sides to prevent it from sweating, that will allow air to the roots, you could even open the bag up all along the top, but would need drains holes in the bottom to let water run off,
but that above method would work well and will produce well,
that pic above would be something id go with if i was still using cfls for the full grow, with enough veg time you will get a good yeild,
if you do go with the grow bag just make sure you poke holes along the bottom, top and sides to prevent it from sweating, that will allow air to the roots, you could even open the bag up all along the top, but would need drains holes in the bottom to let water run off,
but that above method would work well and will produce well,