Spimps NLxBB Auto Micro CFL's 2013

do you dream of smoking a bowl all the wile sitting in your grow area or maybe do you have that dream where the giant cream filled cup cake like hostess used to sell ran over a iguana in front of the red hat ladies before their luncheon? I have that dream a lot but there are giant Ginnie pigs involved, orange ones. they sure can carry a tune tho:)
Spimp said:
Currently running a HEAT test. I got medicated and started to hash it out and a bong went off! :idea: I went through my everyday rutine several times and it dawned me I think.
Heres my daily grow activity. This is embarrasing but I need to be honest.

6:00 am wake up
6:30 ish go turn lights on. Take a quick peek at girls. Make sure they are still there. ;)
7:00 ish Do my days "setup". Make sure the fans are on, etc. If its gonna be hot that day (90+f. Been running 96+) grab Ghetto Temperatre Control Device (frozen 1/2 gal plastic container w water). Close up the box. go to work.
8am-2:00 pm think about me grow
3:00pm arrive home. Let dog out and straight to grow. Inspect. See if there is any Ice left. 95% of the time yes there is. :)
3:10 check 420
3:30 go stare at grow
3:35 back to 420
4:00 first bowl. Stare at grow til 4:20. :)
4:21 back to 420.
5:00 Inspect grow. stare at buds. Breathe heavily cause I read somewhere CO2 makes big buds. ;) Remove water and back into freezer.
5:15 go to sporting activity
7:00 return home. Inspect.
7:10 dinner
8:00 smoke bowl. Sometimes check girls.
9:30 more bowls
10-11:00 inspect ladies. Notice droop. Feel bad for my grow. More bowls, feel great about my grow. :) Lights off for girls. Lights out for me.

So It finally clicked that Im iceing them in the morning. Cooler day temps+Ice = cooler plants.
In the afternoon where it is near 100f I remove the ice becasue its melted. I should be exchanging fo fresh Ice I believe. Plus they are closer to lights cause they are bigger. And Ive got more lights now. And its hotter than Hades. Ive got a fan running on them with door open while I type this to see if they perk up.
I think I still have a mag issue but I think I can ghetto up the heat if thats the wilt issue. Thanks to Scarfinger68 for making me take a critical look at heat stress. :thanks: Im pretty sure now thats the wilt issue. Maybe Ill have to run less lights. Damn...watts=weight. :straightface:
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Ricorico said:
Not all salts are salt (sodium chloride), Spimp

MgSO4·7H2O = Magnesium Sulphate = Epsom Salts



Magnesium sulfate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:xmas:
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DharmaBud said:
Electricity was a bad word, but besides that...I was completely wrong. Just when I thought I learned something lol!
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Ricorico said:
Jeff, ppm meters don't work off the electricity in the soil, just the conductivity.

And that has nothing to do with the microbes :)

Or their "interaction with nutrients" (that's called eating, lol)

What you are thinking of is a microbial fart-meter :xmas:


PPM means parts per million, i.e. how many bits of whatever (salts) are dissolved in water.

You see, Salts make water conductive because they contain (i.e. are) electrolytes.

Electrolytes have what plants crave. Electrolytes.

Electrolytes are PPM. How many electrolytes are there per million parts of water?

The PPM meter would tell you that.

Microbe farts tell us very little. but we need them just as much.

:xmas:
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You just blew my mind sir.
I crave THC. MJ has THC. MJ craves electrolytes. Brawndo has electrolights.

I CRAVE BRAWNDO. :)
:circle-of-love:

For future reference, its been years since ive been in school and Im much more comfortable typing in dialect and jargon rather than 'scentistic' ;) lexicon. I also enjoy slow walks on the beach.... :):)
 
that maybe explains why i thought i was going to be very rich, i was messing around with my multi meter well over a year ago and i put the prongs in the soil in my pots, i set it to volts and looked at the screen, it slowly went up, im pretty sure it was around 2v buts dont quote me on it, ill check again when i get up tomorrow, what i did find out was as soon as i touched the soil the volts dropped to zero, i must of earthed it out and removed what ever was in the soil, the volts did not return until over an hour later,

i never tried this outdoors in the ground but as its earthed outdoors im not sure it would even register, but indoors in plastic pots i got a volt reading in all my indoor pots, as soon as i placed a finger on the soil it dropped to zero instantly so not sure of thats similar to whats mentioned above,

i can take pics to show the volts if any wants to or try it yourself with a multi meter set to volts, i never tried any other setting on the multi meter, i just had it set to volts, i seen it register on the screen and thought i was a millionaire, i thought i had found a free source of electric, i know its only a low voltage, but if their was a way to increase voltage then maybe something small could be run with it, but the volts are to low so i soon realised im no longer going to be a millionaire, damn, maybe next time

i was going to sell the idea to energy companies, tell them i got free electric and ill tell them how for many many millions of pounds, after payment id let them know its a low voltage that vanishes as soon as its earthed out, then i empty my bank, change my name and move to a country i can grow bud outdoors, lol,

wonder what i can run with 2v, it depends on how long the current lasts i get, might just be a split second at 2v, ill check tomorrow and see what the actual volt was and if it changes when water and nutrients are added,
 
fish cake said:
do you dream of smoking a bowl all the wile sitting in your grow area or maybe do you have that dream where the giant cream filled cup cake like hostess used to sell ran over a iguana in front of the red hat ladies before their luncheon? I have that dream a lot but there are giant Ginnie pigs involved, orange ones. they sure can carry a tune tho:)
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In my dreams Im kinda like Scarface meets Duck tales. Where Im a gangsta ass thug controlling north americas weed production and when everyone leaves I go diving through the buds like Scrooge Mcduck... and Im usually wearing an Sombrero and pancho... :)
 
i was going to sell the idea to energy companies, tell them i got free electric and ill tell them how for many many millions of pounds, after payment id let them know its a low voltage that vanishes as soon as its earthed out,
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Lol :xmas: You DO have free electricity, DP :)

We all do, it's called static electricity

Which disappears when we earth (touch) it :xmas:

It was invented by a Frenchman as "balloon-on-the-ceiling Magnetism",

And we've been using it ever since...

:xmas: :)
 
damn, so i wont be a millionaire then,

let me cancel that ferrari and 10 bedroom house i said id buy,

time to roll a far one and feel a bit better, knowing i just lost millions is not good, its like having the winning lottery ticket and losing it,

ill go and cry in the corner on my own now
 
yep,

i just need to think of something else to make my millions, maybe i can create a strain and sell the seeds for $200 each, i could do offers like buy 1 get 1 free, id even do free delivery as well, im sure someone would buy them,lol
 
I wonder if you could get a smal PC fan to blow off 2v? I figured my amps once on my 120 and it was lke .17 of an amp :rofl: I dont remember the actual number but it was miniscule.
 
maybe if i stick the wires for the fan in each ear, then blow up balloon, stand on the soil and rub the ballon on my head, then i might produce my own energy to keep the fans going, would be hard work but im sure i could rope the kids in to try my experiment, i can run exstension wires to their rooms and connect them to their ears, then give them some balloons, then ill see if i can run a fan,

i know static shocks are in the thousands of volts but just no amps to them,

or i stick my fingers in the plug socket and get 240v and 13amps, i wouldnt need a fan, my arms and legs would be spinning around so the fan would be pointless, not sure id have much plants left if i did it in a confined space, well my washing machine got 13amp fuse,

as you can tell im no electrician, but ive had my fair share of electric shocks, im self taught you see, its the best way, you learn from some mistakes very very quick, others take a while, but when you get it wrong and really really wrong, you soon know not to do it again,

i remember repairing a tv once, i never knew about the high volts inside a tv, at the socket it was 240volt, inside the tv it was a whole lot more, i touched the wrong thing, nearly killed me, my hold body jumped about 6ft across the room, blew the main fuse, my mom was in the shower and she was not impressed when freezing cold water came out the shower,

so now i know what to tests and what not to test on a high voltage part of a circuit board, well i know not to have a bit of wire in your hand when testing something, the wire slipped and touched something it shouldnt, its was like been hit in the chest by a truck, it was like a huge thud, never felt pain like it, my arms and legs ached for hours,

but if you need any electrical work doing im the man. pmsl
 
Btw, the heat test didnt really work. Slight improvment only. :straightface: So I gave the NLxBB auto a half feed of water. I had been using the lift method and she wasnt super light but I check three spots and dry 1/2-1" under soil. :hmmmm:

To test to see if it was too hot I opened the door basically 80 degrees with a 5" fan blowing at them form 18" or so and a 1/2 liter of ice behind them. left it for 2+ hours. Only slight improvement. not very significant. :straightface: still not straight out like they were.
So now ive watered and closed the door to 6"'s open and Im gonna see if that works. Time will tell. Still need to get some magnesium tho. purle streaks cant be awesome.
 
it may take slightly longer for the plant to recover, heat stress take some time to recover as the heat stress stunts growth, in the end of flower it makes the buds stretch like crazy so it tries to find cooler air, which is not good as you get light and airy buds,

if you can try digging down about 2 inches to 3 inches, that will give you a good idea of moisture below top layer, the fans will be drying out the top of the soil very quick so you may be thinking the plant needs water when in fact the bottom of the plant is in to much water,

it dont look to serious at the moment so just keep an eye on it, cooler temps wont hurt to much so its best to be slightly cooler until you know for sure what the problem is,

one problem i had was the fans i had blowing directly on the plants and it was making the leaves lose to much moisture so they wilted, then i ran the fans so they was turning instead of stuck blowing in one direction, that helped things a lot,

im pretty sure its nothing to major, if it gets worse quick then you may have an issue but if its not got worse over the last few hours then it might be on the way to recovery.

keep us updated so we can throw suggestions around, the problem is just to try changing one thing at a time, if you try changing to much you wont know what caused the problem,
but im sure its nothing to worry about, maybe the temps spiked for a few hours and are now ok, wilting leaves is either over or under watering, if it was to hot then the edges of the leaves would be cupping up so the plant loses more moisture to cool down,

if the edges of the leaves are not curled up or cupping then this means the plant is no longer at high temps or it was not a temp issue, if it was just a temp issue then it should recover over the next few hours, but it depends how long ago you noticed the problem and how long before you checked the plant when it was last looking ok,

if their was a long gap then temps could of spiked and is now ok and cupping has sorted itself out, i know when my plants get hot all the edges of the leaves in the hot zone curl up so their catching more of a breeze to lose more water,

other issues could be nute lockout but i think you would have more symptoms like colour of leaves, spots of leaves etc etc, just wilting leaves is usually a sign of water problem, to much or lack of, try and work your fingers further down the side of the pot without damaging the roots, try and get down to the depth of a finger and see if any soil sticks to your finger when you pull it out, if it does then it dont need watering,

im sure someone else will jump in and offer more advice,
 
My advice is: What DP said :)


I was moving apartments 10 years ago and had to remove my kitchen units and paint the walls white.

Behind the kitchen unit was a metal grill in the wall, so as I was plastering over holes and craters,

I swiped plaster over the mesh and had a DP moment as I was flung backwards suddenly and all the lights went out.

Now I know what a plug socket looks like when the external cover has been removed.

I cut the wires that led to the plug socket, taped them up and plastered over it all before replacing the fuse.

Worked fine :xmas: I hope.
 
lol, see lesson learned, you wont be doing that again, but if it didnt shock you then you would just do it again,

nothing like learning the hard way, well long as your still alive to talk about it, i was amazed that something can blast you across a room and pretty much knock the life out of you, ive had shocks before but that tv was nearly the end of me, im sure my heart was beating strange for a few minutes, but it made me feel like a god for some reason, i just had these weird feeling running through my body,

for one i was amazed that something like that could happen, then i was amazed that i was still alive, i got a bollocking off my mom for her cold shower, but a few minutes after it happened i felt invincable, then i carefully crept back over the tv unplugged it and made sure i didnt touch it again,
i was about 15 at the time, next time i got a shock was a few weeks later, who knew that a tv was still full of power long after its switched off, their was me thinking it was totally safe to prod around and check for cracked solder joints, then bang huge shock shot up my arm, then i found out tvs are live for many hours after unplugging from mains, now im more skilled at what i do i now know you need to disipate the electric before starting any work on tvs,

again lesson learned,

its amazing that we are still alive, but if you need an electrician and a plasterer then me and Ricorico are the men for the job,
 
Ive come to the conclusion that you are pretty much correct donpaul.p as far as it may be a water issue. I hate this stupid planter box :rofl: I cant get a read on it weight wise PLUS It has a venting system for drainage nd this resivoir thing that your supposed to water thru. It actually says water from the bottom after 2 weeks. But I cant bring myself to do it. And I may have used too much perlite. She doesnt look too bad :wood: just a little droopy so hopefully in the morn Ill have better news.
Good night and weed dreams :)
 
Spimp said:
Btw, the heat test didnt really work. Slight improvment only. :straightface:
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I was just reading this again.

Think about it.

A slight improvement is what is known in physics as an "Improvement"

My theory is that it would have worked,

but you've overwatered now, so we'll never know.

:xmas:
 
im sure by morning the problem will be sorted,
i think a heat issue would of showed up some cupped leaves on the tops of the plants, it takes a few hours for them cupped leaves to go back to normal,
as long as temps are ok now then it should improve if it was just a temp issue, if it was over watering then it might take a bit longer as the soil dries out,

it will be good news tomorrow i think, my the bud gods be looking down on your plant and make it all good
 
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