Soil - Hydro - 2400w Led - 2000w HPS - 8 Strains - 1 GPW+

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

jon705 said:
you would'nt transplant it? the reason I want to is it grows way to fast for a mother in the waterfarm so I want to put it outside. Im not going to cut the roots, im going to get as much of the pellets out as i can from the top and use Mcloadies trick to get as much soil as I can into the brown pot then transplant the whole thing into the 30 gallon pot.it will take a cpl weeks to recover i think, hydro roots and soild roots are totally different but i think she will do fine and turn into a 2 pd monster by the end od september:)
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That plant will feel the love and if two people can get those roots surrounded by soil within a few minutes it wont even blink....I predict a four or five day stall......no wilt.......and a growth explosion by one week! Some b vitamin would also help. I already saw the whole root system......that will be the worst of the whole process.......which you know didn't even phase it!
 
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Howdy Jon and family! hope you have a sweet weedend brother!
 
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I'm with wiz do at least a heavy coco blend if not all coco. It'll be a much easier transition IMO. Trimming back roots never hurt nothing on my side of the fence either
 
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Hey Jon; don't even worry for a minute about cutting those roots off. It might knock her for a few days but she'll recover - there are tons of roots in that pot which will be fine - I massacred my current grow and she's doing fine now. She'll probably need a week or two to adjust to the soil, but the size and health she is now she'll bounce back in no time
 
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fish cake said:
Howdy Jon and family! hope you have a sweet weedend brother!
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Morning Fishy, its going bro, slowly but surely. I got 7 plants trimmed yesterday, 15 to go:)

Green Knight said:
Hey Jon; don't even worry for a minute about cutting those roots off. It might knock her for a few days but she'll recover - there are tons of roots in that pot which will be fine - I massacred my current grow and she's doing fine now. She'll probably need a week or two to adjust to the soil, but the size and health she is now she'll bounce back in no time
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Thanks for the tip GK, Im thinking I will try cutting the roots back because I want the waterfarm insert to use this summer indoors.If the plant doesnt make it its not that big a deal:)

cannasensei said:
I'm with wiz do at least a heavy coco blend if not all coco. It'll be a much easier transition IMO. Trimming back roots never hurt nothing on my side of the fence either
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Ive never grown coco bro, and the plant will be in the bush so I dont want to be trying to set ph out there so its going in promix.I used it last year outdoors without ph'ing my water and the plants were gorgeous.I have so much stuff on the go this summer that I have to try and keep this outdoor as simple as possible. With the nutes im using its pretty much a water only system:)
 
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Just throwing my 2 cents in about the PH in coco. You dont have to worry about it at all in coco. I use tap water and add all types of nutes and never checked PH. So if you ever in the future would like to try coco thats just some info I like to throw out there. Im supporting which ever move you make :thumb:
 
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hey buddy hows it going?

u be fine transplanting to soil. it will def take little while to bed in as the whole root system will have to adapt to it and depending on strain and conditions it can recover quickly or take weeks. dont bother with the coco if u burying it outdoors. if it was going in a pot coco would be the better option, but not if it going in the ground.


Just throwing my 2 cents in about the PH in coco. You dont have to worry about it at all in coco. I use tap water and add all types of nutes and never checked PH. So if you ever in the future would like to try coco thats just some info I like to throw out there.
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Thats pretty bad advice. If u arent checking ph in any hydro grow u are asking for trouble. coco is a hydro grow technically. I have grown thousands of plants in coco and i say u need to ph and and look after ur plants. just because u have grown 1 or 2 plants in coco without ph'ing and had no trouble, doesnt mean that is the rule. id say u have been lucky. maybe ur nute mix is hitting the correct ph wen u mix it but u want to be 5.5-6.2 in coco. u will get trouble if u ignore PH. Im not having a go at u whizz but u havent been growing long and havent grown much so u should be careful how u word ur advice as people may think u are more experienced than u really are and if they follow the advice it could wreck there grow. Like i said im not attacking u but i have a valid point.
 
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Cultivator said:
Thats pretty bad advice. If u arent checking ph in any hydro grow u are asking for trouble. coco is a hydro grow technically. I have grown thousands of plants in coco and i say u need to ph and and look after ur plants. just because u have grown 1 or 2 plants in coco without ph'ing and had no trouble, doesnt mean that is the rule. id say u have been lucky. maybe ur nute mix is hitting the correct ph wen u mix it but u want to be 5.5-6.2 in coco. u will get trouble if u ignore PH. Im not having a go at u whizz but u havent been growing long and havent grown much so u should be careful how u word ur advice as people may think u are more experienced than u really are and if they follow the advice it could wreck there grow. Like i said im not attacking u but i have a valid point.
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Yea that was a bit attacking C. Just because I havent been growing for a while doesnt mean Its not true. Ive grown more than 1-2 plants in coco which are documented in my journals also a full hydro grow with no issues and me NOT PH'ing my solution. The size of your grow or how many plants someone grew or grows doesnt mean there info or knowledge is any better than a person who only grows 1 plant. My hydro grows been above 7.0 and below 5.0 at times and I never bothered to fix it. Never had a problem. And I use alot of different nutes and additives. Also Ive read books on growers who says theres no such thing as PH lock out only thing that happens is the roots get swollen and they cant or wont uptake nutes for a while. But in time 1-2 weeks the plant will fix it self. I also Purposely messed up a plant to show ppl that it will fix it self over time. Which is a FACT!

Just saying the amount of time someone has been growing doesnt mean anything at all. And I refuse to tell someone info that isnt true. Theres growers on here that also dont check there PH in coco nor hydro and they been growing alot longer than me as well but only thing different is the time they put in which doesnt mean anything when growing. Being focused will get you beautiful plants not time. In a short amount of time I know alot. Thats because I actually love what im doing and learning is my game.

You just told everyone on here dont listen to the new guy he doesnt know anything. This is what I can speak on, everyone that follows my grows actually respect my info and test that ive ran with no problem to help and clear up things others didnt understand or scared of doing. Not luck just pure reading and learning and finding out the truth. Which I did. Ive gotten props from top growers on this site and also threads with top growers congratulating me on my new found facts. This is not me attacking you in any way just me speaking truth :)

The only fact you said was and is I havent been growing pretty long. :thumb:
 
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My dog has NO Nose!
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hold on thats not what i said if u read carefully. i also never said longer u grow the better u know, as some people never learn and say, growing a few plants now and again over years as opposed to grow many over a short period could mean the new guy learns faster. ive read ur journalling.

i have been growing a long time and i grow many plants regularly.i can point out some real disasters of grows that have gone to shit because the guys never looked after the ph. Im not saying u shouldnt say what u think, not at all. im saying u should word it differently. so people know ur experience. If u keep ignoring ph and having a nonchalant attitude to hydro growing, unless u are extremely lucky it will come back to bite u in the arse. of course if u have the knowledge and skill to spot any issue, im sure u would be able to correct it.

As a rule its bad advice to tell people to ignore ph in inert media and water culture. I dont doubt for one second that there have been succesful grows when people have ignored PH, but its not the norm. if everyone ignored it now then more people would fail than succeed i guarantee it. There are reasons hydro and inert media need to be ph'd. There are ofcourse newer feeds with new technology which means some feeds have high chelates and can be absorbed more readily through a larger ph range, and maybe u are using such products. But i still say its foolish if not ignorant to ignore one of the most important aspects of growing outside of light and environment.

Maybe i come across harsh, i dont mean it that way. but ive seen enough disasters and been PAID to fix enough fuck ups to know its important. Im not a noob, this is my fulltime job and my life. Not for much longer though as im headed back to court for growing and not just a few plants either lol.
 
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well said Cultivator and Wiz.
but I will agree more with Cultivator on this one:)
 
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fish cake said:
well said Cultivator and Wiz.
but I will agree more with Cultivator on this one:)
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I didnt get to say my rebuttal yet Sir Fish :rofl:


Cultivator said:
just because u have grown 1 or 2 plants in coco without ph'ing and had no trouble, doesnt mean that is the rule. id say u have been lucky. Im not having a go at u whizz but u havent been growing long and havent grown much so u should be careful how u word ur advice as people may think u are more experienced than u really are and if they follow the advice it could wreck there grow. Like i said im not attacking u but i have a valid point.
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First thing C, I bolded the exact words/phrases. Which pretty much says time matter more and how many plants you grow. Believe me I read and hear things for what they are and how its written or said. And I consider my self very experienced in such a short time. But I owe it all to everyone on 420 that I followed. Its not hard just pay attention and learn.

Ive read carefully your new post. And I do understand were your coming from. But your not getting me. Im a experimenting grower with myth busters all over it. When I give others my advice i give them the whole thing not just bits and pieces. I tend to not leave out anything at all when some one ask for my advice or i put in my 2 cents. PH matters more in soil than any other medium or way of growing. Chelates are nothing more but chemical nutes as you said that are more readily available to plants. Which has nothing to do with PH but the nutes its self. Organics are alot different and takes time to break down so that the plants can use them. Which again has nothing to do with PH. And for anyone who uses Organics I would recommend to use more micro than anything. If a grower sees deficiencies using organics its because its lacking the micro nutes. Which I helped a few growers out on that. In soil I would only recommend to check and monitor PH but I wouldnt recommend soil at all.

Hydro Ive learned a great deal off of you C. One thing that didnt sit with me was the PHing and monitoring the water. Regardless the PH will fluctuate no matter what you do. But this is great for the plants since nutes or micro nutes are available more at different stages on the PH chart. Which is all that it is. Its a chart to go off of not really follow. It just gives you an idea if you ever ran into any problems. I only had PH problems in soil. Never not once coco nor hydro. My 1.5 journal is all hydro same thing no PH'ing at all. I never check my TDS either. Thats only for keeping your water clean. So that the nutes wont cling to the particles in the water and cloud the water. I remember asking you why is the water cloudy or milky and you couldnt answer it. So I found out. That shows that time and the number of plants doesnt matter. As a noob I knew that over you or atleast at that time you couldn't tell me that :)

See I learn and continue to read. Coco & hydro. Oh and I grew well over 30 plants. Oh and RO water will make you have a deficiency if your not careful since it has nothing in it at all. Lack of calcium and mg which we all know.
 
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ok whizz

im not going to argue the point. u dont need to explain about ph to me, i thoroughly understand the role it plays mate. i understand u are trying to try diff things and challenge concepts of growing and thats a good thing. maybe ur right. but ive seen enough problems and issues to say its important and shouldnt be overlooked, having grown thousands of plants grown different ways.

having said that, the point i was trying to make is stating it as fact that it def works regardless is wrong. now saying u could try this as it worked for me, is prob a more appropriate way in my opinion. but what do i know.

i do apologise if u feel im being a dick. im not trying to be, im just saying its best not to state facts when there could be many variables.
 
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Wasn't arguing just making my defense. You kinda put me in that position to do so lol. As Jandre once told me. "If I want to hang with the big dogs state my defense & facts". Like I said I learned hydro from you & will always give you props. So I do understand your point. As for your court situation I pretty sure you'll come out good. 2 1/2 is what I see no more. My wishes & prayers are with you in court. I'm pre law at this moment. Studying to be a lawyer if you ask me how I know this. That is unless they caught you with and around everything. You don't have to discuss or not I'm asking you to discuss just saying :)
 
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Ignoring the conversation at hand.... C! GOOD TO SEE YA MATE! :Namaste: guys
 
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I agree with Canna..

Good to see ya C!
:high-five:
 
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good weed Jon:)
 

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