Soil - Hydro - 2400w Led - 2000w HPS - 8 Strains - 1 GPW+

[420fied]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

The first picture SCREAMS Mag deficiency. The dots may be due to Cal. I had a Cal lockout once and dots formed on my Snow White. They were just darker than yours. Are you feeding them a CalMag supplement? If not, that's the first thing I'd do.

I do not claim to be the authority on this. This is only my opinion.

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

thanks Fied, I gave them 5 mpg cal/mag a yesterday hopefully thats all it is bro thanks for having a look

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

can ph 4-7 solution go bad?

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

thanks for the reps Hiker

 

[Hiker]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

I think it looks like a Ca problem too, but agree the first pick looks like Mg. The two tend to go hand in hand, so perhaps both are being locked out a little. My issue was due to using my very hard tap water. I can't recall if you use RO or not. Perhaps try flushing with some RO and a res change? I know you just setup the res, but... It has to be related to the transplant. Maybe there was something in the system you put them into. I think you use Hydroton. Did you wash it real well, sterilize it, then rinse it thoroughly? I'm surprised you're having issues since you've been working with this strain for a couple grows now. I have confidence you'll get everything sorted out before you flip.

In regards to those LED lights... You said the manufacturer recommends 48 inches for seedlings. I don't think your plants qualify as seedlings bro. Unless you are trying to promote stretch, I would lower them. Of course that's just my opinion having no experience with LEDs at all. It's merely based on the knowledge that light intensity decreases with distance, so it seems like you're not getting the full benefit having the lights so far away. I thought one of the advantages of LEDs was you could put them closer due to the lower amount of heat coming off the lights. Again, you know better than I do. I just wanted to bring up the fact that your plants are NOT seedlings anymore.

 

[cannasensei]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

Your Ph can go bad but it typically is gone before its bad (if ur calibrating as often as u should )

I agree that the very first pic screams magnesium. The second does look like zinc but I would imagine that it is actually an advanced p deficiency (I'd venture to guess it has been locked out do to a high concentration of calcium and high Ph) the two in tandom can wreak havoc on a plant. Foliar feed the 1st with 1tsp /gal Epsom salt (after getting ur Ph in check with all)

The other two I'd be willing to bet if u back off the Cal mag to 1/4 dose and get ur Ph in check it will work itself out. If things keep getting worse foliar feed a pk booster at 1/4 strength.

I had a feeling problems would arise, there's alot of risk involved in running multiple strains and even phenols on one central Res as each has.a.specific dietary need. It can be made.to work but the next few weeks may be spent trying to strike a.balance between too much for some and not enough for the rest.

Let us know.how.it progresses and maybe a few full plant shots.

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

your right bro they're not seedlings but the lights are 48 inches from the pots and the plants are 14 inches tall give or take so they are 34 inches from the lights right now. at 28 inches these lights put out 800 umols which is right where you want them for flower.when mmj is in veg it doesnt need as intense a light. one of the reasons my yield suffered last round is the lights were way to close, at 12 inches these lights put out 1800 umols which is way to intense at any stage of growth. by the time they get done the stretch they will be around 26-28 inches from the lights. I have the hps 18 inches right now and will be moving them as needed but the led's are right where they're suposed to be

ps: it has nothing to do with less heat because the led's put out much more intense light than hps.If you look at quality led's most of them are recomended around the same height depending on how many watts they are.

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

thanks Sensei, I just calibrated my meter again and it was fine so unless the solution is bad which I doubt, its cal/mag, I just added 5 mpg yesterday so I ll wait and see what happens over the next 24hrs. your right about it being tough to keep multipal strains happy in one system, the berrybomb looks great so the only one I have to worry about is the chernobyl, either way im not going to adjust the res to much to make 1 plant happy. Hopefully the cal/mag straitens her out in a few days

 

[fish cake]

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thats kinda scary to me looks like mites (hope not) and for what its worth if you check my blog out there is a chart that shows different problems that may help you out if I havent all ready said this before

 

[cannasensei]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

I thought the same at first. Mite damage but there wouldn't be that much damage without visible infestation and webbing. With such a high Res cam Wed have seen a web gleaming back.

 

[fish cake]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

last time I had mite I never saw a web and it almost got out of control just happened to be checking with the scope when I saw the little bastards munching down and they would be most likely under the leaves

I thought the same at first. Mite damage but there wouldn't be that much damage without visible infestation and webbing. With such a high Res cam Wed have seen a web gleaming back.

 

[jon705]

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thanks Fishy, I just let off 3 bug bombs 4 days ago with the plants in the rooms so I cant see it being mites bro, but im going to go take a closer look with my scope right now lol...just in case.

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

im also noticing that the ridges on the leaves seem to be raised or swollen kinda you can see it in a couple of the pics I posted, overwatering maybe? I usually like to run the system 15 on 45 off until the roots reach the bottom and then every 3 hrs during lights on and only once during lights out.

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

the only plant with the bad yellowing is the chernobyl. the morning after the transplant I noticed that the drippers werent working on that particular plant some maybe that caused them to dry out a bit?

 

[jon705]

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chernobyl

these are pk some have that twisted raised ridge look and others look fine.

 

[Cultivator]

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hey bud

quick fly by, i really dont have time to read whats happening so can u quickly fill me in?

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

ooosh.

have u checked for spider mite? exactly what are u feeding and how often? whats ph at?


Sorry im not up to date with this one. i didnt realsie u'd started a 3rd journal.

Above pics the 3rd-4th pic up from bottom look like mite marks. i may be wrong but get a magnifier on and have a look.

 

[fish cake]

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sure does look like mites to me again I hope I'am wrong. hope its the drip thing brother.
how old is your soil you start with?

 

[jon705]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

this is happening to the girls in the system Fishy and the blue og in soil has a few symptoms too but milder. I just looked for a third time and i dont see any mites, I cant see how it could be mites with the 3 bug bombs I set off 3 days ago. im feeding them BPN 3 part base bpn liquid seeweed and bpd vitablue with some cal/mag added yesterday and a bit more today. temp and humidity are fine. its weird, now that im seeing it on the blue og in the soil that i watered from the res 2 days ago im thinking it has to be the nute solution right? im going to flush the system and start over again hopefully this will fix whatevers going on here.

 

[Cultivator]

Re: Blue Planet Nutrients-Soil-Hydro-2400w Led-2000w Hps-8 Strains-1 GPW+

it could be nute solution. but the bombs wouldnt necessarily kill mites, they are resilient to alot of shit. but if this is a new nute schedule i'd try chnaging strength of nute first. why dont u contact bpn and see what he recommends for doseage at this point. ive never used it so im not in a position to advise on strength etc. but as far as frequency of feeds id be going 15min 3-4 times daily max.