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ilikemsticky said:
hey stone I add it to my tea brew at the end after the 12-16 hrs of bubbling once a week 1/2 strength and also foliar with that mix diluted 7-1 :)
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Do you know what the PH is of the foliar tea?
 
I'm confused. You're making an ACT but you suggested that its not required in high brix paradigm? I think it is a suggested use.

I'm familiar with Doc Buds kit. As I mentioned high brix has been around pretty long time, well before Doc. I think like the 1930s.

On yields, I can keep up with the fertilizer growers. I have a brix style soil and use some of the brix practices (foliars). I'm just not a stickler to everything they bring to the table. I'm more of a no-till grower and 100% organic.

You should be able to do as well or better in the yield department with what you are doing. It might take a few rounds but you will get there.

My first round with a new soil mix is always the least yielding.

Your crops will get better and better every round.

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Act with sugars added you're on a time frame. I dont aerate for longer than 24 hrs and I dont use sugars. I doubt the sugars are a requirement. Key to a great ACT is the amount of oxygen in the tea mix. The more air pumped thru the more oxygen. That bad smell is anerobic bacteria. They are the devil.
 
ilikemsticky said:
im sure it varies because its not the same every time I do ph and adjust it to 6.5-6.6 just the foliar don't want to put anything to acidic or alkaline on those tender leaves lol! :cheesygrinsmiley:
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I've read that foliar sprays need to be acidic, 5.5 or lower.

bobrown14 said:
I'm confused. You're making an ACT but you suggested that its not required in high brix paradigm? I think it is a suggested use.

I'm familiar with Doc Buds kit. As I mentioned high brix has been around pretty long time, well before Doc. I think like the 1930s.
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I am in transition from hydro to soil. I will still be doing hydro 2 months from now, but in that time I will be decreasing hydro plants and increasing soil plants. I still will make compost teas for my hydro plants only, but when I'm fully done with hydro, I won't be making teas anymore.

I went back to when DB was formulating his kit, and his learning curve and I've done more than a fair share of thread searches to locate little nuggets of info. I can couple all of that with my own failures in hydro trying to get my brix up. I've tried easily 8 nutrient tweaks as well as an attempted cationic drench. I learned a LOT about how his kit progresses and caters to the plants, such that I feel I can emulate that recipe of things and follow the instructions. I think you would agree that The Kit is about the best documented LOS on 420 of people having repeatable successes. This makes it a lot easier to mentally commit to emulating it and is why I took the leap.
 
Interesting, I wasn't aware that Doc's kit was 100% organic?

I wasn't aware that you used ACT in your hydro setup. That's interesting, I bet a lot of work tho.

I'm here to learn brother. Always something new and exciting.
 
bobrown14 said:
Interesting, I wasn't aware that Doc's kit was 100% organic?

I wasn't aware that you used ACT in your hydro setup. That's interesting, I bet a lot of work tho.

I'm here to learn brother. Always something new and exciting.
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Most people (self included once) misconstrued what is considered organic and what is considered synthetic. After being set straight, I learned that maybe an estimated 90% of my salts are organic, and it is only the exotic salts that require acids and all sorts of processing to produce that are considered synthetic.

Search RIU for "DWC Root Slime" and find a thread starting in 2010 from a guy named Heisenberg. Perhaps you've heard the term Heisenberg Tea? That thread outlines all of the principles of inoculating hydro, and what all can be used to make something. I've been using this for years, briefly switched to Real Grower's Recharge, but then switched back as the teas produced better results.
 
Skybound said:
Most people (self included once) misconstrued what is considered organic and what is considered synthetic. After being set straight, I learned that maybe an estimated 90% of my salts are organic, and it is only the exotic salts that require acids and all sorts of processing to produce that are considered synthetic.

Search RIU for "DWC Root Slime" and find a thread starting in 2010 from a guy named Heisenberg. Perhaps you've heard the term Heisenberg Tea? That thread outlines all of the principles of inoculating hydro, and what all can be used to make something. I've been using this for years, briefly switched to Real Grower's Recharge, but then switched back as the teas produced better results.
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We're you using recharge to make tea's ?
 
Dankman_420 said:
We're you using recharge to make tea's ?
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Recharge is a tea replacement. It's convenient as you mix it with water, shake the shit out of it to mix it up, then inoculate. IDK if you remember The Capn from a few years back, but he was my mentor and taught me a lot of what I know about growing. He first put me onto Heisenberg Tea, but later on he got into Recharge and sent me a tub to try out, so I did, and like I said, I used it for a couple years, but found it to be inferior to brewing ACTs. That's not to say Recharge isn't good, because it is, just not as good as ACTs IMO. Actually, I have some left, so maybe I'll just use that for the rest of my hydro to use it up. I bet the empty tube with screw on lid will come in handy, lol.
 
Skybound said:
Recharge is a tea replacement. It's convenient as you mix it with water, shake the shit out of it to mix it up, then inoculate. IDK if you remember The Capn from a few years back, but he was my mentor and taught me a lot of what I know about growing. He first put me onto Heisenberg Tea, but later on he got into Recharge and sent me a tub to try out, so I did, and like I said, I used it for a couple years, but found it to be inferior to brewing ACTs. That's not to say Recharge isn't good, because it is, just not as good as ACTs IMO. Actually, I have some left, so maybe I'll just use that for the rest of my hydro to use it up. I bet the empty tube with screw on lid will come in handy, lol.
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I bought some recharge awhile back when I was growing the GG bagseed. It just was never a happy plant and I was hoping it would help. I still have some left. I'll keep it in mind for a tea replacement. Thanks Sky :)
 
Skybound said:
Most people (self included once) misconstrued what is considered organic and what is considered synthetic. After being set straight, I learned that maybe an estimated 90% of my salts are organic, and it is only the exotic salts that require acids and all sorts of processing to produce that are considered synthetic.
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Organic chemistry isn't the same as organic farming.

I would check with Oregon State's organic certification process.

It's pretty strict and a lot of the chemicals you think are organic are not used in organic farming.

Organic is good, I'm trying to be fully sustainable and organic including the use of electricity.

We are there. My winter crop, should be zero energy and fully sustainable.

The last time I bought something for my garden was in the late spring, I bought a bottle of organic Garden Friendly Fungicide for like $15.


Most of the salts that are used for farming are not organic. Not something I made up, it's part of the organic certification process.

All of the chemicals that are dug out of the ground and used for fertilizers can be made in the garden. That how they got under ground in the first place. The process/processing is where it becomes not sustainable and questionable organic.

Soft rock phosphate is a good example.

I usually am not a stickler in that I don't wanna preach about it to others and prefer folks figure this out on there own.

You do open things up for discussion.

Feel free to tell me to f-off. Cause I can argue this shit with the best of em.

I wish you luck with your soil adventure. Using the HighBrix paradigm should work well for you.

I think like with many cannabis growers, we have gotten into the use of habits and oral traditions that are hard to change.

It's been working so why mess with it right?

Well to strive to be the best we can be sometimes takes some change of thought and action.

Why I'm here, to learn how to be the best Ganja Farmer I can be.

I like to collaborate with others that have similar goals.

I'm 420% positive you are too.

If that makes any sense. I got to ramble and its all because of Jellium. lol


Mentoring and being mentored is part of the oral tradition and it's a HUGE part of my existence.

As we get older, we must pass it on. :passitleft:
 
I sort of felt the same way you do about organics and salts, but like I said, someone provided me with added insights. Whether which salt is or isn't organic certified is totally irrelevant to me. I have materials on hand and found a program that works well into that, so IMO it's still sort of hydro in that I can totally control the elements, but soil because of the organic contents to jack up the CEC and a very active microbial population. I have all the salts needed to create all of the drenches and sprays, plus have the best amendments like SRP and the Soil Mender, plus also the Planters II, both of which I think you should CHECK OUT. It's a good starting point for me and I was able to buy in for cheap, maybe a total of a $160 spent and I got a hundred gallons of soil cooking, plus all the fixins to provide the rest of the program and the knowledge to make any feed adjustments if I feel the need.

I got a little fur growing in the soil.

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bobrown14 said:
Chem and Sour D are related pretty closely too.

I think there was a name change from Chemdawg to Sour Diesel due to people thinking that the Chemdawg was laced with something cause of the name beginning with "Chem" and of course the smell ffs. lol

Either way I think they are sisters from 1 mother if not the same plant. I forget. Leaning towards the same plant 2 names.

Chems are always potent and good yields too. Hard to beat. Every one I've ran was keeper and I mean clone for-ever keeper.

I always have 2 or 3 in VEG. Usually always have 1 in flower but I decided to run a big Sativa so I had to leave 1 spot vacant for room for the Sativa. I'm gonna need that extra space too.

Sky you going all soil after this??


Sulfur - brrrrp. We have it in the well water and lemme tell ya, even a little bit brings out the terps in my chem-gas. Woah. Its not pretty or comfortable.

Water filters FTW! Thanks God.


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Benefit of soil is you don't have to use salts to get good results. Mix a proper soil and enough water is all.
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We just put a well in and the water is high sulfur, we won’t drink it. What are you using to take the smell out?
 
I now have many rooted clones and as soon as I get the 3 remaining out of the dome and put into these 9oz Solo cups, I will take another 4 or more from the PC. Also, wehn I get some of these bigger plants sent to bloom I will be starting some new beans. Ayahuasca Purple from Barney's, Dr Kripling's Incredible Bulk and maybe some others, OG kush or Cheese again maybe. I'll do hydro in these small Solo cups until there's an abundant amount of roots for the amount of media, then put them into the soil. I estimate the plants will be nearly a foot tall (8"-10") at that time which should be plenty big so when in dirt, I can focus only on root growth and not be concerned with the size of the plants. If this proves to be too problematic, I'll just ditch starting as hydro with future rounds, but we'll see.

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Skybound said:
I now have many rooted clones and as soon as I get the 3 remaining out of the dome and put into these 9oz Solo cups, I will take another 4 or more from the PC. Also, wehn I get some of these bigger plants sent to bloom I will be starting some new beans. Ayahuasca Purple from Barney's, Dr Kripling's Incredible Bulk and maybe some others, OG kush or Cheese again maybe. I'll do hydro in these small Solo cups until there's an abundant amount of roots for the amount of media, then put them into the soil. I estimate the plants will be nearly a foot tall (8"-10") at that time which should be plenty big so when in dirt, I can focus only on root growth and not be concerned with the size of the plants. If this proves to be too problematic, I'll just ditch starting as hydro with future rounds, but we'll see.

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my son has taken clones that I gave him in solos with soil and transitioned them into hydro and had good luck with it but a few of them didn't like it but I haven't seen hydro to dirt it will be interesting to see you do it no problem bud!
 
ilikemsticky said:
my son has taken clones that I gave him in solos with soil and transitioned them into hydro and had good luck with it but a few of them didn't like it but I haven't seen hydro to dirt it will be interesting to see you do it no problem bud!
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Dirt to hydro sounds interesting. Worst case scenario is the soil washes away and the roots in that area would have to find somewhere else to be suspended. Hydro to dirt is easy, that one I have in dirt started in twice as much rockwool as these little 9oz cups. Also, years back, I went from 1 gallon of cubes into soil and it took well then too.
 
Skybound said:
Dirt to hydro sounds interesting. Worst case scenario is the soil washes away and the roots in that area would have to find somewhere else to be suspended. Hydro to dirt is easy, that one I have in dirt started in twice as much rockwool as these little 9oz cups. Also, years back, I went from 1 gallon of cubes into soil and it took well then too.
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that's what he did washed the soil from the roots and into the rockwool that's good that its an easy switch over from hydro it makes sense though going into there natural medium one thing for sure they'll be large for there age that's a plus yours will likely be possibly 2-3 times the size of mine lol its going to be fun watching and learning! :)
 
ilikemsticky said:
that's what he did washed the soil from the roots and into the rockwool that's good that its an easy switch over from hydro it makes sense though going into there natural medium one thing for sure they'll be large for there age that's a plus yours will likely be possibly 2-3 times the size of mine lol its going to be fun watching and learning! :)
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I'm not certain that hydro will accomplish that much more than just soil, so maybe next set of cuts, I put some in cubes and some in soil, then see what happens?
 
Skybound said:
I now have many rooted clones and as soon as I get the 3 remaining out of the dome and put into these 9oz Solo cups, I will take another 4 or more from the PC. Also, wehn I get some of these bigger plants sent to bloom I will be starting some new beans. Ayahuasca Purple from Barney's, Dr Kripling's Incredible Bulk and maybe some others, OG kush or Cheese again maybe. I'll do hydro in these small Solo cups until there's an abundant amount of roots for the amount of media, then put them into the soil. I estimate the plants will be nearly a foot tall (8"-10") at that time which should be plenty big so when in dirt, I can focus only on root growth and not be concerned with the size of the plants. If this proves to be too problematic, I'll just ditch starting as hydro with future rounds, but we'll see.

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These kids/stands are badass :) I've gone from my dwc cloner to soil many times. You've got this under control
 
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