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Hey Sky, looks like you made a good batch of soil. Clones are looking great!

Only the one plant is in the soil. FWIW, I was not at all confident in my first batch, but I guess that worm poop really smoothed out all the salts I tossed in that one. That PC seems to be enjoying her new home though, so that is reassuring. All of the rest of that batch has also been updated with the good Minerals Plus and some kelp meal, so by the time I actually use it, it should be better. Aside from the 3 hydros I have in bloom, I will do just 3 more in hydro then it will be all dirt for me for at least a few years.
 
Only the one plant is in the soil. FWIW, I was not at all confident in my first batch, but I guess that worm poop really smoothed out all the salts I tossed in that one. That PC seems to be enjoying her new home though, so that is reassuring. All of the rest of that batch has also been updated with the good Minerals Plus and some kelp meal, so by the time I actually use it, it should be better. Aside from the 3 hydros I have in bloom, I will do just 3 more in hydro then it will be all dirt for me for at least a few years.
Yea the first batch might be confusing the roots some I thought but it's growing well. Just water so far?
 
Yea the first batch might be confusing the roots some I thought but it's growing well. Just water so far?

yes, just water for now till I start to see deficiencies as I want to wash down the salts before I start adding more. Now when I get to the 2nd batch, that will be nute drenches from the start, well after I know the roots take as all plants will start out in them little 9oz solo cups in rockwool. My 2nd batch I am certain is amended right. Not too much salt went into the 2nd batch.
 
yes, just water for now till I start to see deficiencies as I want to wash down the salts before I start adding more. Now when I get to the 2nd batch, that will be nute drenches from the start, well after I know the roots take as all plants will start out in them little 9oz solo cups in rockwool. My 2nd batch I am certain is amended right. Not too much salt went into the 2nd batch.
be careful waiting for deficiencies I don't think they respond as fast as they do in hydro most of the time for me its mag and cal these lights suck that out of them I never have that problem outdoors just n!
 
be careful waiting for deficiencies I don't think they respond as fast as they do in hydro most of the time for me its mag and cal these lights suck that out of them I never have that problem outdoors just n!

Mag is an easy fix and there's plenty of calcium in there too. I'm just concerned will all the ammonium and phosphate in there and want to thin that out more than anything. I've only watered twice since I originally dried out the pot, but I haven't yet watered to excess, just enough to trigger a few drops out the bottom, so nothing is leaching out. I'll mix up the drench soon, it's primarily calcium and nitrate with a spritz of P and S. I think the drenches that have fish in'em I will wait till I'm settled into the routine before trying to make concentrates as the fish hydrol needs to be stabilized with phosphoric acid to keep it from going bad and I presume that might be a bit of a learning curve, lol.
 
I really don't know about the lineage. The chems to me all have a somewhat similar chem flavor. Always strong too it seems

Chem and Sour D are related pretty closely too.

I think there was a name change from Chemdawg to Sour Diesel due to people thinking that the Chemdawg was laced with something cause of the name beginning with "Chem" and of course the smell ffs. lol

Either way I think they are sisters from 1 mother if not the same plant. I forget. Leaning towards the same plant 2 names.

Chems are always potent and good yields too. Hard to beat. Every one I've ran was keeper and I mean clone for-ever keeper.

I always have 2 or 3 in VEG. Usually always have 1 in flower but I decided to run a big Sativa so I had to leave 1 spot vacant for room for the Sativa. I'm gonna need that extra space too.

Sky you going all soil after this??


Sulfur - brrrrp. We have it in the well water and lemme tell ya, even a little bit brings out the terps in my chem-gas. Woah. Its not pretty or comfortable.

Water filters FTW! Thanks God.


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Benefit of soil is you don't have to use salts to get good results. Mix a proper soil and enough water is all.
 
Chem and Sour D are related pretty closely too.

I think there was a name change from Chemdawg to Sour Diesel due to people thinking that the Chemdawg was laced with something cause of the name beginning with "Chem" and of course the smell ffs. lol

Either way I think they are sisters from 1 mother if not the same plant. I forget. Leaning towards the same plant 2 names.

Chems are always potent and good yields too. Hard to beat. Every one I've ran was keeper and I mean clone for-ever keeper.

I always have 2 or 3 in VEG. Usually always have 1 in flower but I decided to run a big Sativa so I had to leave 1 spot vacant for room for the Sativa. I'm gonna need that extra space too.

Sky you going all soil after this??


Sulfur - brrrrp. We have it in the well water and lemme tell ya, even a little bit brings out the terps in my chem-gas. Woah. Its not pretty or comfortable.

Water filters FTW! Thanks God.

Yes, I am phasing out of hydro as we speak and after the pictured 3 rockwool plants finish, everything after then will be in soil. I have rev engineered the brix kit to the best of my ability and I am very confident that I am VERY close to the numbers listed in the Guaranteed Analysis in the kit amendments, drenches and sprays. I will soon build a 9x9 room and will grow 9 plants in it, but there's no way this building could support 9 hydro reservoirs, so I had to commit to converting to soil to save weight. I expect to yield less per plant, but expect quality to improve as the tradeoff. Still, with 9 plants stacked perpetually, I will be able to harvest a plant every 7-9 days which will then afford me some extra breathing room to make headway in other areas I've been neglecting.
 
Good for you. Soil ftw

Try organic thats where the flavor is in soil.

I've tried plenty of hydro gear and its all good.

The organic soil gear, everything is smooth as silk even with no cure out of the gate.

I think that's where the difference is.

I've found that cannabis likes a high C soil, not soluble C but high C. Let the microbes break it down as the plant asks for it. As long as its there you're good. The phosphates that are soluble in excess cause the microbes issues.

The brix people like to foiler on some of these macro and micro nutrients.

I just foiler 1x a week with Kelp Tea, pro-tekt, Ful-power, coconut water (pure) with aloe.

There's some difference with the High Brix in the rest of the world vs the cannabis world tho. The difference I have no i-deer what that is. All I know they are somewhat different.
 
There's some difference with the High Brix in the rest of the world vs the cannabis world tho. The difference I have no i-deer what that is. All I know they are somewhat different.

The difference is that the soil is amended mostly with calcium. There's a 7:1 Ca:Mg ratio, There is next to zero K in there, moderate P, and just enough N to keep the plant growing well. Like you said, the foliar spray supplements in a lot of the P in the form of phosphoric acid that is used to stabilize the fish hydrol. Calcium Nitrate is the primary component in one of the favored drenches, so both are regularly replenished. Because the soil is cooked for a month with zero K EWC, there is an abundant microbe life in it to keep swapping exudates for ions. I've been using the foliar on my hydro plants and they love it. I will no longer need to screw around making compost teas either. I've been researching this kit and this topic extensively for about 6 months now. I had most of the same salts used to make the various products on hand and acquired the rest of what I didn't have on hand. I made a few mistakes and got some things I won't need like Azomite, soft rock phosphate and calcium carbonate, but those were cheap lessons and I will eventually use those in a veggie garden next summer.

I get that this is my first rodeo in soil, but having done the research I have and learned the things I did, I am so confident in my studies that I am borderline cocky with it. I am extremely confident I will be able to make it all work out well, all while having the ability to make minor changes if I choose to, and this is a luxury most growers have not yet afforded themselves.
 
I found that a soil test of my initial mix and then have it tested a few years later is very telling and very helpful.

I know that you are detail oriented. With soil you have some lee-way in that its not that critical with your measurements after you have your base soil going right.

Your extra materials you have bought that you don't need you can add them (not all at once) to your vermi-compost bin. Then use that compost after the worms finish with it, as an organic amendment to your pots later on.

The compost teas have a place. When I mix my soil I will use compost teas in the beginning. It helps get the microbe population up and then when plants arrive to the party I will add mycos (WOW = wallace organic wonder) to the hole at transplant.

In soil its all about making and keeping the microbes, bacteria and fungi in the soil happy.

In my case its all about the compost. I treat our vermi-compost bins like they are black gold. Add amendments there and let them break down and they become more soluble. So if I have a plant that needs something. A scoop or 2 of compost scratched in is all she needs. Thats rare tho.

I've been using some Llama poop water (Peruvian Gold) when plants are in flower, instead of fish fertilizer which I've used in the past for sure.

Glad to see you switching over to soil. It's a leap of faith.
Probably the hardest part is giving the reins up to mother nature.
Thats the leap of faith.

Each round will get better and better the more the soil is used the better it gets.

I leave all the roots in the soil after chop and let the pot sit for a few weeks. All those roots break down pretty fast and help build up the soil for the next plant.


Just throwing out a few tidbits that I've learned over the years. Been at this organic soil thing all my life really.

They got me started early in pre-school growing beans in a cup. Mine grew up to the ceiling and beyond. I was hooked and then Jack in the Beanstalk story really hit home. lol
 
The reason I opted to emulate the brix kit is because it was formulated like 6 years ago and hundreds of growers have been using it with great success all while DB made a few minor adjustments. Seasoned kit users churn out perfect plant after perfect plant of super frosty buds. Their yields look pretty good too, but that is less important to me for a change. The Kit also addresses the key points you raised, but different approaches is used to accomplish those goals. The Kit's success also hinges on the microbes, but very little molasses is added to keep the microbes working and not getting fat so to speak. Perhaps microbe teas work well in other LOS blends, but it is unwise to use them with the Kit due in part to the fact that the microbe colony has already been established, but also because those colonies already arranged the soil to their preferences, and for me to later add an ACT would likely disrupt that balance. It also works better for me as making ACTs means I need to keep buying air stones or other things needed to produce a good tea. Just yesterday I screwed up a batch of ACT b/c the molasses settled into the air stone and clogged it enough to block airflow. It smelled like a jar of spit, or worms on the pavement, so I had to put it all in the toilet.

When I start into the kit, I will follow the instructions as DB laid them out and I will use emulated drenches and emulated sprays. I already emulated the soil amendments. I figure after a couple of rounds I will have a lot better understanding of things and can choose to make any adjustments to any of the formulations if I want. The best part though is being able to review all of the content and become extremely familiar with the compositions as well as the schedule.
 
The reason I opted to emulate the brix kit is because it was formulated like 6 years ago and hundreds of growers have been using it with great success all while DB made a few minor adjustments. Seasoned kit users churn out perfect plant after perfect plant of super frosty buds. Their yields look pretty good too, but that is less important to me for a change. The Kit also addresses the key points you raised, but different approaches is used to accomplish those goals. The Kit's success also hinges on the microbes, but very little molasses is added to keep the microbes working and not getting fat so to speak. Perhaps microbe teas work well in other LOS blends, but it is unwise to use them with the Kit due in part to the fact that the microbe colony has already been established, but also because those colonies already arranged the soil to their preferences, and for me to later add an ACT would likely disrupt that balance. It also works better for me as making ACTs means I need to keep buying air stones or other things needed to produce a good tea. Just yesterday I screwed up a batch of ACT b/c the molasses settled into the air stone and clogged it enough to block airflow. It smelled like a jar of spit, or worms on the pavement, so I had to put it all in the toilet.

When I start into the kit, I will follow the instructions as DB laid them out and I will use emulated drenches and emulated sprays. I already emulated the soil amendments. I figure after a couple of rounds I will have a lot better understanding of things and can choose to make any adjustments to any of the formulations if I want. The best part though is being able to review all of the content and become extremely familiar with the compositions as well as the schedule.
cant wait to see it! :)
 
I also can't wait to see it! So far I'm really digging organics. I'm halfway through first time in bloom organically and I got 6 smaller plants in the organic soil. I'm already convinced that it's just a better way of growing than bottles of nutes
im a firm believer of that you cant beat the flavor either! :)
 
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