I bought a co2 tank, still in box. That sucker is heavy. I have no knowledge at all about how to use it...gonnA look around here ,I'm sure I will find out a lot., I mean in other threads. I think it come with co2 just because it's so heavy.
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I bought a co2 tank, still in box. That sucker is heavy. I have no knowledge at all about how to use it...gonnA look around here ,I'm sure I will find out a lot., I mean in other threads. I think it come with co2 just because it's so heavy.
BudBGrowin
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Keep them them lights close for real tight nodes, you might not see that in the beginning, but in a couple of weeks you'll see the difference.
Yes on a more mature plant I would not have the lights that far away as it can handle a lot more light, but with seedlings I have experimented with all sorts of lights and ranges and I have found that a few inches up will not cause much stretching. It seems to me that once you get them close enough (aka my suggestion of about 8 inches) they will not keep getting tighter nodes as the lights get closer. Spectrum of light and strain plays a much larger role in node length at that age in my experience. If interested I can upload a small pic showing tight nodes on a group of seedlings and the T5 lights aren't even visible in the shot (shadowman permitting as this is his thread of course!)
Keeping a nice gap will also allow for good air circulation to get the seedlings to bend and flex will help encourage rooting and strong stems.
Buddy Ebsen
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Hey Shadowman,
Click on this link DonPaul.p on using CFL lights - Blogs - 420 Magazine ®
I would pay attention to what this guy says! He's one of the premier growers here.
Click on this link DonPaul.p on using CFL lights - Blogs - 420 Magazine ®
I would pay attention to what this guy says! He's one of the premier growers here.
BudBGrowin
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While the information in that link is relevant to low wattage CFL's, a T5 horticulture light has a much higher output level, and these DO get hot enough to burn plants, as I have burned a nice chunk out of a few leaves using t5 as side supplementary lighting in my earlier grows (especially with no airflow).
Buddy Ebsen
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BudBGrowin,
I responded to your PM that you sent me. The link that I sent Shadowman spoke about a different size CFL, yes that is correct. With Shadow's current setup, the amount of lumens that he is providing his seedlings is more than sufficient & as long as there is air flow and proper circulation, then I am the firm belief that he can keep those lights at their present height. The size of his CFLs & T-5's aren't going to throw off that much heat to hurt them. Also, the amount of lumens that he is providing is IMHO is not going to cause any type of light burn.
I had 9 of my plants under 2 250 watt self ballasted CFL's with a combined total of 30,000 lumens for 3 weeks at 2-4''. If you would pop over to my journal, I believe you will see the results as to how effective it actually proved to be. You may be pleasantly surprised.
Everyone is going to have different opinions & we all learn from those opinions, but it is up to the individual grower's to decide which method to employ for the desired effect of his/her grow.
I responded to your PM that you sent me. The link that I sent Shadowman spoke about a different size CFL, yes that is correct. With Shadow's current setup, the amount of lumens that he is providing his seedlings is more than sufficient & as long as there is air flow and proper circulation, then I am the firm belief that he can keep those lights at their present height. The size of his CFLs & T-5's aren't going to throw off that much heat to hurt them. Also, the amount of lumens that he is providing is IMHO is not going to cause any type of light burn.
I had 9 of my plants under 2 250 watt self ballasted CFL's with a combined total of 30,000 lumens for 3 weeks at 2-4''. If you would pop over to my journal, I believe you will see the results as to how effective it actually proved to be. You may be pleasantly surprised.
Everyone is going to have different opinions & we all learn from those opinions, but it is up to the individual grower's to decide which method to employ for the desired effect of his/her grow.
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shadowman
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You Go granny, I can't afford the tank and regulator, I've been looking at a poor man's version, it comes in different containers depending on the brand(company) you buy from but the idea is the same. The one I'm looking at has it in a bucket and you peel of a cover over a one-way screen and hang it above the plants and the CO2 will release into your grow area and because CO2 is denser than O2, it falls onto the plants and is absorbed through the leaves. You can buy different sizes of containers depending on your grow space square footage. It is cost effective for me, about 28 USD. I can't wait until you get a grow going so I can follow along.
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Looking good... I'm subbed!!
Welcome Tamir, Glad you stopped in. I hope you enjoy following my journey through my maiden grow. I have tons of support here and everyone is Great. Hang out whenever and as long as you like.
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shadowman
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Yes on a more mature plant I would not have the lights that far away as it can handle a lot more light, but with seedlings I have experimented with all sorts of lights and ranges and I have found that a few inches up will not cause much stretching. It seems to me that once you get them close enough (aka my suggestion of about 8 inches) they will not keep getting tighter nodes as the lights get closer. Spectrum of light and strain plays a much larger role in node length at that age in my experience. If interested I can upload a small pic showing tight nodes on a group of seedlings and the T5 lights aren't even visible in the shot (shadowman permitting as this is his thread of course!)
Keeping a nice gap will also allow for good air circulation to get the seedlings to bend and flex will help encourage rooting and strong stems.
Hey Bud, If you want to post some pics to help demonstrate a theory or support and argument(I don't mean in neg.)by all means, I only ask that it has to do with topic in discussion. Thanks for presenting a different perspective on light application.
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shadowman
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Welcome everyone, I transplanted my 2 biggest seedlings yesterday morning into 3gal. pots and adjusted the overhead T5 to about 12". They look a little sad but I'm confident they will recover in a day or two. Here's some update pics.
Hopefully they will enjoy their new home. Thanks for stopping by.
Hopefully they will enjoy their new home. Thanks for stopping by.
MaggiesFarm
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All looking good, shadow! Are the 3 gal pots their permanent home or will you upgrade them before flowering?
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shadowman
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That's their final resting place, in future grows I'm wanting to get bigger tent and then I'll go for longer veg time. This 1st grow is more experience and med supply than anything.
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shadowman
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Hey granny, I'd say it drains well, I watered about 26oz in each after transplanting and had just a little run off. The pans were dry within about 2 hours.
Dusty Kiefers
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Happy growing,bud
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shadowman
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Thanks for coming by Dusty. I hope it is worth the drive, I'll have balloon animals and pony rides later.
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shadowman
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Hey everyone, checked them early this morning and looked good, their leaves are still a tiny bit droopy but nothing major, I gave them another 16oz each, distilled water mixed with rhizostym, 30ml to one gallon water, it's an additive that Ideal 420 Soil has to boost overall growth, it's the only thing they say to add if you want to add extra nutes. No run off, they took all that. I've been watering around the plants leaving a 2" diameter at the stalk dry to promote root growth(make them search for the water). And here's my update pics. Thanks for coming by and getting my updates, when I start topping they will be better updates.
This little one is still a touch yellow but they have grown out of it so I'm giving it more time before I switch to straight water.
The runt.
That's it for now but will add more when there is something of interest to share, oh, I've been checking them out with a 40x loop, my eyes are getting old and tired. Their nodes are close together, I read in a couple of forums some growers seem to think this may be an early sign of a female trait. I hope so! Alright, have a good one everyone and I'm off to check on my friends journals to catch up on what they have going on. Later...
This little one is still a touch yellow but they have grown out of it so I'm giving it more time before I switch to straight water.
The runt.
That's it for now but will add more when there is something of interest to share, oh, I've been checking them out with a 40x loop, my eyes are getting old and tired. Their nodes are close together, I read in a couple of forums some growers seem to think this may be an early sign of a female trait. I hope so! Alright, have a good one everyone and I'm off to check on my friends journals to catch up on what they have going on. Later...
Cannabis 1
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They are looking good. Definitely some new healthy grown on them. Do you plan on keeping them in those pots? Oh, and a question for the community. I have only givin my ladies water, except one which is now in the hydro. On the TechnaFlora mix sheet, it says something about a foliage spray. Should I be wetting my ladies down with that spray now? or wait until they get a little bigger?
Re: Droopy leaves.
I checked my future mothers this morning in the dark cycle.
All the leaves on all the plants were droopy.
I checked 10 minutes after the HPS light came on and all the leaves were perky.
I was surprised. Apparently the leaves droop at night!!
This is my first grow, and both strains are Indica dominant, so your results may vary.
Keep on loving those babies
I checked my future mothers this morning in the dark cycle.
All the leaves on all the plants were droopy.
I checked 10 minutes after the HPS light came on and all the leaves were perky.
I was surprised. Apparently the leaves droop at night!!
This is my first grow, and both strains are Indica dominant, so your results may vary.
Keep on loving those babies
Buddy Ebsen
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Cannafan has some nice time lapse videos of plants going thru sleep & wake cycles. Awesome Video!
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