Sense Amelia's First Pop At Indoor Soil Grow

[Sense Amelia]

Hello 420 peeps. I have some issues with yellowing and I need to know if I should worry. It seems to be happening with lower older growth not young new growth.

See what you think.
Temps are fine, they only had 1 ml of nutes each last watering.
Are they asking me for MORE nutes because today I gave them 1ml of bloom and 1ml of grow per litre... per plant.

Sorry about this but I can't seem to do my usual photo upload.

Thanks folks.

 

[Muttt]

Yep .... mine were doing the same thing. Feed them more. They be hungry. Also ..... add two TBSP of molassess to a gallon of water and then add your nutes to the water. This helped mine out a bunch.

 

[fish cake]

pretty sure you lack nitrogen, there could be a salt buildup to so maybe you can flush with a weak solution thats high in nitrogen and you should be ok

 

[Sense Amelia]

Hi guys thanks for your replies. Where would salt be coming from?? All I can think is nutes, and they havent had hardly any as you know. Yep. I think they are just hungry too.

 

[Grand Daddy Purp]

It is not the nutes. You need to feed the grow nutes to her. She need nitrogen.

 

[Sense Amelia]

Poor starving babba's. Like I said today - 1Litre of water each containing 1ml bloom and 1ml grow. Happy days. Maybe I should be giving them more than the 1ml but I just wanted to start slowly. Next nute watering should I take it to 2ml? Thanks folks!

 

[Muttt]

You should follow the recommended amounts listed by the manufacturer.

 

[Vick074]

I'm subbed!

 

[Sense Amelia]

Thanks Vick! I will Mutt, it's just that if you recall my plants were showing absolutely no signs of needing anything up until now so I held off. Next time round, I will give them nutes alot sooner than I did though for sure.

 

[Muttt]

Your dirt had a certain amount of nutes in it. During early growth, the demand was so light that the soil was more than enough to sustain growth. But, as your plant gets bigger, your soil gets weaker as the nutes are leached out of the soil. And now that they are doing well and growing they just need more than the soil can provide.

 

[Sense Amelia]

Well, Momma's given them some medicine yesterday and next nute watering I'll hit 'em up again. *smiles*

 

[Korloin]

if you have ever seen anyone here do a supercrop you would have a heart attack at the way it happens yet the plant never misses a step.
but you do what your happy with and feel good about.

Piping in a bit early, as I'm only on pg 5 of your journal. But this line almost made me spew a mouthful of Pinot Noir on my screen (I often respond like that to fish cake's posts, lol). I'm one of those "that Dudes grow is AWESOME!! I'm gonna try that!" kinda newbs, and I just started supercropping my runtlet (the only fem out of 5 germed seeds ). Scared the crap out of myself once with a broken stem, but she recovered easily with a lil' runtlet sized duct tape splint. Took 2 days and I was able to remove the tape. I did lose 1 top though, essentially.....um, topping that shoot. But the 2 new shoots that remain are already beefing up past where the lost top was. So win win for me! (Experience and 2 new tops!)

Pragmatism and trepidation are golden rules with this hobby for sure! I fully support your decision to let 'em go tous naturels! You'll probably be better prepared than I and know more of what to expect on your next run.

But, I'm happy to share any info or insight I've gleaned from the multiple experiments I've run during my grow if you need it. (so far I've done GLR, LST, SCROG, extreme defoliation and supercropping on this grow. Plus a new, non-physical, technique that I'll be posting about later in my journal that hasn't been updated for over a week)

And as TG stated earlier, the folks on this board are some of the most helpful, insightful and knowledgable you will find. Just all around damn good people who want to see you succeed and master your skills.

Your girls look amazing! You're doing an awesome job so far!

(hopefully everything is progressing positively in the next few pages I'm about to read, otherwise I'll feel like a complete schmuck)

Can't wait to read the rest!



Korloin

 

[CanMan]

Are the girls happy now?

 

[Sense Amelia]

Hello 420 peeps! Things got a little busy but I'm here now to catch up.

Heya Korloin, these many marvellous training techniques intrigue me, yet scare the be-jesus outta me at the same time. I knew I wouldn't be doing any major surgery on my very first virgin grow, the mild LST'ing I did is about as far as I will go I think this time, but very interested to start looking into these more for the next times round. If it is going to increase my yield, I'll do what I can! So yea, letting 'em go "au natural" is partly down to my fear and nerves of high stress training and also because I am curious to see what they are capable of without me interfering too much, ya know? I am glad your experimentation paid off. *smiles* As for me being well prepared, I wouldn't go that far, it's like being thown in at the deep end. Bang, you're in, go for it! LMAO... I did do alot of research though as did not wanna go in as blind as a bat.

Speaking of bats... I have bat guano, would this benefit my ladies right now??

And as TG stated earlier, the folks on this board are some of the most helpful, insightful and knowledgable you will find. Just all around damn good people who want to see you succeed and master your skills.

Yes, you've all been wonderful and I can't thank the community enough. I have a friend nearby who I can call on, but he gets most of his info off another friend...blah blah so it's great to come here and seek your opinions and have you all let me know how my plants are doing because I'm such a noob it's unbelievable.

Your girls look amazing! You're doing an awesome job so far!

When people keep saying this it makes me wanna do a happy dance. Big sigh of relief. Ha ha ha!!! Thankyou.

(hopefully everything is progressing positively in the next few pages I'm about to read, otherwise I'll feel like a complete schmuck)

Are the girls happy now?

Hi Canman - Not too badly, I deprived my babies of nutes until they were about 4 weeks old because they looked so good without them, but I'm paying for it slightly now, so just getting those nutes into them now as directed on my little chart that someone here kindly linked to. Not going into panic mode and going overkill to "compensate" just nice and slow, as directed.

The yellowing leaves I photographed yesterday are almost 100% yellow and dryer now. It's on low old fan leaves. Not spreading yet (Please God no!) so I am just keeping a close eye on them. Fed them plain water tonight. Their last water had nutes and that was on Friday. I'll hit them up again with nutes on Tuesday now.

So... it's been a little while, here's some more pics so we are up to date again. First pics showing those yellow leaves. (Sorry girls)

...and some pics of the rest of them without focus on the negative stuff ::

What's this, pistils or start of flower? (They have been in 12/12 for exactly one week now)

They stand at roughly 2 ft tall now.

So what do you think folks, this yellowing, do you think I have nailed it now and that it will not spread? The leaves that are already yellow look like they can never recover though. One is so dry it tore as I knocked it on the string. as always.

 

[Grand Daddy Purp]

If the leaves are dry enough to crumble remove them as they are consuming resources that the buds need trying to repair. That is just my .02.

 

[Scop]

Wow, they stretched a lot!
How far do you have the light from the top of the plants?

 

[Korloin]

Heya Korloin, these many marvellous training techniques intrigue me, yet scare the be-jesus outta me at the same time. I knew I wouldn't be doing any major surgery on my very first virgin grow, the mild LST'ing I did is about as far as I will go I think this time, but very interested to start looking into these more for the next times round. If it is going to increase my yield, I'll do what I can! So yea, letting 'em go "au natural" is partly down to my fear and nerves of high stress training and also because I am curious to see what they are capable of without me interfering too much, ya know?

Hear ya loud and clear there! I had (and still have) the same fears. I started off with just a lil' LST and got hooked once I saw the potential benefit to doing it. The beauty of this thing, I've found, is that its very personal. YOU are in control. YOU get to decide the next course of action.
Win or lose, it's very rewarding. It cleanses my soul a bit.

I am glad your experimentation paid off. *smiles*

Well, I'm not sure about that yet. LOL!

I've had quite a bumpy grow, but have learned a tremendous amount due to my foibles. My only fem out of 5 seeds germed is @ 17days into flower right now. The poor thing is getting to be my uber-guinea pig as desperation (due to the diminished yield potential) started to dictate my actions. So I'm trying to do everything I can to get as much out of this little girl as is possible. I may get diddly squat, I may get a Z or two. She could have had a better foundation to start her short little life on.

As for me being well prepared, I wouldn't go that far, it's like being thown in at the deep end. Bang, you're in, go for it! LMAO... I did do alot of research though as did not wanna go in as blind as a bat.

It feels like that, doesn't it? But you're doing tremendous! Your next grow will be far easier and possibly even more fruitful just for doing this one.

When people keep saying this it makes me wanna do a happy dance. Big sigh of relief. Ha ha ha!!! Thankyou.

What's this, pistils or start of flower? (They have been in 12/12 for exactly one week now)

Yes.

They stand at roughly 2 ft tall now.

So what do you think folks, this yellowing, do you think I have nailed it now and that it will not spread? The leaves that are already yellow look like they can never recover though. One is so dry it tore as I knocked it on the string. as always.

I'm with TG on this. The upper portion of your plant is thieving the nitrogen from those leaves, I think, as N is a mobile element. Some folks like to keep feeding grow nutes during the first few weeks of flower in order to provide N through stretch and then switch over to bloom nutes. Up to you if you want to give them a little N in their food until they're done stretching. Later on all your leaves will start to yellow for the same reason. Little to no N in the nutes. But you want that to happen.

Keep up the great work! These are gonna finish real nice!



K

 

[Muttt]

I was thinking the same thing. They are really reaching. It looks like your lights are too high. How far away are your lights. That could be another reason why your lower leaves are yellowing. Too far away from light.

 

[Sense Amelia]

Thanks for the responses guys. I appreciate it. ::

If the leaves are dry enough to crumble remove them as they are consuming resources that the buds need trying to repair. That is just my .02

Will do, TG. I never thought to do this today. Duh.

Wow, they stretched a lot!
How far do you have the light from the top of the plants?

Too bloody far, I was being stupidly cautious. It will get lowered tomorrow and I will let you guys know exactly how far it is away then. I'm not where the plants are now.

It feels like that, doesn't it? But you're doing tremendous! Your next grow will be far easier and possibly even more fruitful just for doing this one

Thanks for the kind words Korloin, yes, a complete learning process, and as long as I don't mess up beyond repair, alot of knowledge should be gained. Heh. Nice one on your LST'ing etc, brave man, I so want to have a dabble, just too nervous at the mo.

So that is the start of little flowers then? Huh. That's lovely!!

Some folks like to keep feeding grow nutes during the first few weeks of flower in order to provide N through stretch and then switch over to bloom nutes. Up to you if you want to give them a little N in their food until they're done stretching.

My girls went almost the full veg phase without "Bio Grow" - as mentioned, they looked so damn green I was scared to give them any in case it wrecked them. In hind sight, and after our discussions here, I can see they needed them, AND like ya say, the light needs lowering some for sure.

I think they had their first Bio Grow nutes about a week ago, I gave them Bio Bloom first, then after yellowing issue, added Bio Grow too. I'll just keep giving them bio grow until the chart I have says I guess.

Keep up the great work! These are gonna finish real nice!

Oh I sure hope so!!

I was thinking the same thing. They are really reaching. It looks like your lights are too high. How far away are your lights. That could be another reason why your lower leaves are yellowing. Too far away from light.

Damn I just can't wait to get to them tomorrow now and sort it all out!

 

[Muttt]

They are very healthy. The stretch isn't that big of a deal.