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You and anybody else are always welcome to throw in your pics Mr Smeegs... I will probably clean mine up today. I think I may have missed a step and need to go back to @Asesino85 thread again.
Sauga's First WW Indoor Grow, LED Style
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You and anybody else are always welcome to throw in your pics Mr Smeegs... I will probably clean mine up today. I think I may have missed a step and need to go back to @Asesino85 thread again.
My 2 cents...I’d check the ph of everything I put in there everytime. If. 6.5 is your goal then I’d let it slide between 6.3 and 6.7 and be strict on that. Now as far as doing it organically....I have no idea lol. But nonetheless I’d keep it within a small range to avoid complications from fluctuations.
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Well I was always using rain water and it runs on my meter at 6.8, so naturally I was on the high side from the beginning. Then I would add some comopst tea and not check the pH of that. I'm sure it was no where near 6.8 tho. From now on each watering is checked.
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So I did some defol on the quads, removing the fan leaves on nodes 1 and 2, and removing the fan leaves pointing down on the second as well. Left the rest alone.
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Done and done
I'm fighting with this one. That node just wants to do it's own thing. I had the tickler up higher above the node but she started to twist. I'm gonna have to be a little more stern with her.
I will have to look at this again in the morning to make sure I read it right. Sometimes moving too fast and things happen that you don't want.
Thanks for the guidance Ase...
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looking good mr.Sauga and top o the morning to you....
Lookin Good Mr Sauga!
The ones I circled are the nodes I am talking about. The branch at this facing upwards and doing well already stay but the one that has to come from underneath never makes it to the canopy so i just pinch or cut it off at this point and leave just one strong branch coming off that node. Every other node does this all the way up each "line". Just like those big inner fan leaves you pulled yesterday, there is currently one of these on every line and I pinch them all off at the same time. I know it's a bit scary but I've done this enough now to know that no matter how much you twist or hope it will, it just doesn't. Just to confirm you don't pull the whole node, you just pull one of the two branches at the node.
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So these are my latest pics. The second pic has the long line and I figured out why this morning. The plant had a severe lean so that line kept reaching for the light. I tickled her off at the stalk to straighten and hopefully in a couple of weeks she'll be established again.
I hope I did the node thing right.
So these are my latest pics. The second pic has the long line and I figured out why this morning. The plant had a severe lean so that line kept reaching for the light. I tickled her off at the stalk to straighten and hopefully in a couple of weeks she'll be established again.
I hope I did the node thing right.
There ya go Mr S. Looking on point now. Did everything perfectly.
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Thanks bro, I'm starting to get a picture first hand in what is happening now. Good job on the training, I appreciate the effort you made to guide me.
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So here's an updated pic of my ill girl. She got 3L of rain water and a little molasses pH'd at 6.4 yesterday. Hi @Pennywise will the leaves ever recover? What can I expect to see now?
I bought some blood and bone meal, 7-7-0, and was going to make a weak tea at 1/2 dosage. I did another test with another meter and the N still comes in low so I figured a boost of N and P won't hurt. Let me know your thoughts before I go ahead and apply.
I'll send another mention out to @Van Stank and see if he can shed some light on soil conditions.
I bought some blood and bone meal, 7-7-0, and was going to make a weak tea at 1/2 dosage. I did another test with another meter and the N still comes in low so I figured a boost of N and P won't hurt. Let me know your thoughts before I go ahead and apply.
I'll send another mention out to @Van Stank and see if he can shed some light on soil conditions.
The yellow won't recover so watch your new growth to judge her current health.
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OK perfect, that's what I needed to know. 
I’m loving the quadline brother! Looks perfect! 
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Summary for Week 8
What a week it was. I encountered my first plant health issue and totally freaked out. I put the call out for help and within no time I had the best helping me out. It was determined that I had a Ca def and most likely was related to pH issues. I couldn't understand why as the pH was between 7-8 and Ca gets locked out much lower than that. After a couple of more days and new pics, it was mentioned my pH was fluctuating causing the issues I was seeing. As soon as that was mentioned understood where I went wrong. I was assuming my rain water was pH'd properly as well as my compost tea which was made from the rain water. I never once tested for pH before watering the girls. Now, everything is tested for 6.5 before being added to the plants and I'm watching the new growth for improvements. Finally, as a treatment to the Ca def I made a foliar spray with dolomite lime and a light tea with dolomite lime and blood and bone meal for a boost of N and P.
So, I just want to say thanks to @Pennywise for his wisdom and to let you know your knowledge did not go wasted. I spent the afternoon setting up a spreadsheet that contains everything I need to know. The type of watering, the schedule, the plant problems and solutions, and other items listed on the bottom tabs. Thanks again
Quadlining
I've had my real first lesson at quadlining over the last week. I have to tell you I really love this idea. I can see the amount of room I will save per plant and things hopefully will be a lot more tidier. I tried putting the net down but my girls are all over the place height wise. I'm in day 57 of veg on the longest one and I basically want to start over and apply everything I have learned. So I might wait two more weeks then flip. I'm going to reduce the number of plants, keep the big 7gal fabrics and stick to quadlining. A special shout out to @Asesino85 and @Derbybud for getting me going in the right direction.
Summary
I've started to LST the recovering girl since she has the most growth. I've opened up the canopy a bit on Emily who is the bushy one but she's so short it's hard to get to to LST. I'll probably just wing it with her. The quads have excited me to no end seeing the potential they have. I know my second go round will be more successful. I'm OK with flipping them in two weeks even if I don't get much yield. Like I said I just want to get going on my next grow.
I wish I could thank everone personally so please don't be offended if you never got a mention. I would however like to select someone each week, so long as I remember, that really had me thinking about things and this week it has to go to @Smeegol . He has some great homestyle solutions to problems that most people wont think about and really had me thinking of all the things I could do, which really is neverending. Thanks for your contributions Mr Smeegs.
I hope all you had a great week as I did, and I look forward to sharing my next week with you all as well.
What a week it was. I encountered my first plant health issue and totally freaked out. I put the call out for help and within no time I had the best helping me out. It was determined that I had a Ca def and most likely was related to pH issues. I couldn't understand why as the pH was between 7-8 and Ca gets locked out much lower than that. After a couple of more days and new pics, it was mentioned my pH was fluctuating causing the issues I was seeing. As soon as that was mentioned understood where I went wrong. I was assuming my rain water was pH'd properly as well as my compost tea which was made from the rain water. I never once tested for pH before watering the girls. Now, everything is tested for 6.5 before being added to the plants and I'm watching the new growth for improvements. Finally, as a treatment to the Ca def I made a foliar spray with dolomite lime and a light tea with dolomite lime and blood and bone meal for a boost of N and P.
So, I just want to say thanks to @Pennywise for his wisdom and to let you know your knowledge did not go wasted. I spent the afternoon setting up a spreadsheet that contains everything I need to know. The type of watering, the schedule, the plant problems and solutions, and other items listed on the bottom tabs. Thanks again
Quadlining
I've had my real first lesson at quadlining over the last week. I have to tell you I really love this idea. I can see the amount of room I will save per plant and things hopefully will be a lot more tidier. I tried putting the net down but my girls are all over the place height wise. I'm in day 57 of veg on the longest one and I basically want to start over and apply everything I have learned. So I might wait two more weeks then flip. I'm going to reduce the number of plants, keep the big 7gal fabrics and stick to quadlining. A special shout out to @Asesino85 and @Derbybud for getting me going in the right direction.
Summary
I've started to LST the recovering girl since she has the most growth. I've opened up the canopy a bit on Emily who is the bushy one but she's so short it's hard to get to to LST. I'll probably just wing it with her. The quads have excited me to no end seeing the potential they have. I know my second go round will be more successful. I'm OK with flipping them in two weeks even if I don't get much yield. Like I said I just want to get going on my next grow.
I wish I could thank everone personally so please don't be offended if you never got a mention. I would however like to select someone each week, so long as I remember, that really had me thinking about things and this week it has to go to @Smeegol . He has some great homestyle solutions to problems that most people wont think about and really had me thinking of all the things I could do, which really is neverending. Thanks for your contributions Mr Smeegs.
I hope all you had a great week as I did, and I look forward to sharing my next week with you all as well.
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I’m loving the quadline brother! Looks perfect!
Thanks man, I'm feeling real good about it. As long as I can keep 'em healthy.
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Good morning mr.Sauga you've been on top of your game my friend and I'm glad everyone rallied to your call for help..
Looking top notch on that #quadsquad time to bring out the French ticklers in force now, tickle that girl into submission and get her tickled pink to flower.....
top o the morning mr.Sauga.
Looking top notch on that #quadsquad time to bring out the French ticklers in force now, tickle that girl into submission and get her tickled pink to flower.....
top o the morning mr.Sauga.
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Good evening Mr Smeegs, I hope you morning is starting off well by the time you read this.
It's the old saying for me, "you don't know what you don't know". If I had started this log at the beginning my girl most likely would still be a pretty green. Now it's like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and all the other plants are making fun of her.
The cracking good news though is it looks like the new growth is doing well. I don't want to get my hopes up but one half of the plant is looking like it's back on track.
I think back and wonder why I never started it. I think my mind was telling me to wait for something to happen then do it. If all is OK why bother. A nonchalant attitude that bit me. But, like my girl, I'm back on track as well.
She's a little over watered but I purposely gave her lots of 6.3-6.5 to try and flush out any bad pH.
Enough rambling from me Smeegs, enjoy your day good sir!