Relaxed's Outdoor Medical Grow - 2016

[Lester Freeman]

Figured I'd take some pictures of the plants, they had a good rain last night.

Group

Here's a Blackberry

Here's the Sour Diesel x NYCD x Chemdawg mother I just released after cloning her

Here are the Underdawgs

Here's another Blackberry

A Jack Dawg

Swiss Cheese on left, and a Blueberry x Santa Maria on the right

They're all females, all are clones except the Blueberry and the SD variant, which are fresh from seed. Oh also, daylight hours are about 13.6, and about 10.4 hours of darkness per day naturally. Prolly will end up force flowering the SC and UD.

 

[Hozona]

Looking good RL!

 

[Lester Freeman]

Looking good RL!

 

[Lester Freeman]

So I will begin force flowering on Thursday, I will select a few specimens, there is only so much I can fit in the dark chamber (garage). I decided not to build a blackout chamber, so I will just force flower where I normally was. Except, I have purchased a small grow tent which will serve as a propagator and mother room for my strains. It is a light proof tent which will be only a foot away from the flowering ladies, so I will need to make sure there is no light leaks. Anyhow, my recent clones are rooted and growing nice now.

Consolidated strains are now

1) Jack Dawg
2) Underdawg
3) Swiss Cheese
4) Blackberry
5) Blueberry x Santa Maria (which I may end up replacing the Blackberry with)
6) Sour Diesel Dawg

For force flowering, unfortunately I can only fit so much, but I will try to force flower 4-5 plants, specifically the two Swiss Cheese's, the Blackberry, and one if not two of the Underdawgs. The rest of the crop will have to grow on naturally, even if that means having to go through a revegetation event through the summer, or at least until I can harvest the first wave of force flowers.

We'll see how things go, but so far everything seems to be working out just great. Real real excited to grow the SD variant. Can't wait to see how it goes, the tiny little clones stink like hell, of skunk, so I know it's gonna be a real stinker in flower, probably more than anything that has stunk before.

 

[Lester Freeman]

On break, I decided to post a few pictures. I have selected the plants I want to force flower, and then just have to leave the remaining ones to flower or reveg in the tent (we'll see what they do! )

Here is the planter bed BEFORE I removed some specimens

Here is the planter AFTER (1 Blackberry, 1 Blueberry, 1 Sour Diesel, 1 Jack Dawg)

Here are the plants I'm going to light deprive (2 Underdawg, 1 Blackberry, 2 Swiss Cheese, and 1 Jack Dawg)

(this is a JD)

Here are the clones (I tend to take the smallest clones, and these are AFTER being rooted! Just goes to show small they can be to clone, however there is of course a lower limit) - I'm about to transplant into small pots

Aloha

 

[Lester Freeman]

Here are some pics of the recently rooted clones that I transplanted, in the new propagation tent

Here are a few newer rooting clones, one of the Blueberry and two of the SD

This is a JD in the outdoor tent that is turning green after a dose of fertilizer, she was clearly hungry. She also is trying to flower so I'm hoping she'll revert soon

Same with the Blackberry

And the Blueberry

This is the mother SD x NYCD x Chemdawg plant that I decided to LST. This was recently released, but hopefully will stay in veg.

Some pics of the force flowering plants, which were sprayed with the SNS-604B sea kelp.

This is a Swiss Cheese

Jack Dawg

A Blackberry that was also recently fed

An Underdawg that hasn't been given any supplemental nutrients yet, but will be applying a Dr. Earth tea sometime soon.

And hopefully the force flowers will be close or ready to harvest in appx 50 days (Swiss Cheese def could be) and hopefully the other stuff in the tent goes back to vegetation state soon.

 

[Radogast]

So do I understand that you are tryng to force flower and reveg in the same outdoor tent?

I guess that rules out a 400W light on a timer for the gaslight routine

 

[Lester Freeman]

Let me clarify the scenario

I have the white porous outdoor tent (row cover), which plants sit in naturally and grow however they will.

I then have the separate area for the force flowers, which are the bricks. These plants get put into the garage for darkness at the evening and taken out in the morning, the propagation tent is a light proof veg tent that sits proximal to the force flowers, in the garage. In other words, I don't lug the force flowers back into any tent per se, they're in a separate part of the garden.

I would like the white tent plants to go back to veg for awhile, naturally.

I would like the force flowers to flower hard.

And the veggies to veg, until it's ready to simply clone and release.

Only problem right now is keeping the temperatures down in the propagation tent

 

[Lester Freeman]

Sorry Rado for belaboring your simple question, like the journal, you might have gotten more than you bargained for.

Anyhow, the force flowers are doing great, real happy with them so far, this right now might be my favorite part of their lives, it's that feeling where you've "transformed something". They become so different throughout the flowering transition, they change so much, when they're fully budding for awhile, you get used to it. I never get used to how different the plant is from pure veg to pure flower, with those centralized flower heads.

Everything needs to be sprayed with a round of azamax, it will happen tomorrow. I've noticed more bugs coming out and increasing amounts of the white butterflies which lay those loopers.

Stuff in natural flowering tent is..... well.... flowering like hell. I guess we're just gonna call this an experiment for the 4 plants in the white tent. Based on the theory, they will begin a revegeation event during the middle of hard flower. Perhaps, if anything, with these plants I can provide a prime time example of what you ideally want to avoid. Things are possible however, what if the plant decides to just flower hard and form perfect buds, even though the light hours are increasing heavily towards the June solstice, theory says this won't happen, but perhaps there could be a chemical explanation in the body of the plant. If it can still continue the flowering protein without the manipulation of light, perhaps they have the autoflowering genes in them but they don't express them, that's why their photoperiod (but not really because ruderalis is a different species of plant, but hey). But if for some reason, when you begin any particular flowering event, you instill the plant to transcribe several, dozens of different proteins, on a production line of DNA.

If you hit a gene segment that doesn't care about the photoperiod and also makes the gene product for flower signaling, perhaps it could happen. I had a friend grow perfect buds natural flowering which flowered through the solstice, that's because he released them off 24/0 and they got far enough in and never went back with no reveg. I think this is rare, but each different plant is a different biochemical master, which makes different specifically calculated decisions about the environment. Each time we flower them, we test their will to survive, what will they do. As we've seen, we can run into polyploid specimens, recently we saw one on the eye candy thread. This is a little different, but still pokes at the idea of genetic explanations.

So I'm interested to see whether the 4 tent plants are able to successfully revert, completely fail, or just truck on through. Hopefully at least the SD variant stays in veg until its time for fall flowering. I'll probably adjust the lighting on the newer clones so they're getting a bit more darkness, so they adjust easier to being released and will get some proper veg in, at least that's the idea... I'll figure it out eventually

 

[Graytail]

Have you ever looked into Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs)? I wonder if you could promote blooming with foliar hormones until the solstice ...

 

[Lester Freeman]

Have you ever looked into Plant Growth Regulators (PGRs)? I wonder if you could promote blooming with foliar hormones until the solstice ...

Out of the 5 basic PGR's

1) Auxins
2) Cytokinins
3) Gibberellins
4) Abscisic Acid
5) Ethylene gas

These are pretty "broad spectrum" hormones, meaning they each cause various responses.

Ethylene is commonly used to "power-ripen" tomatos, this is released by flowering plants, which is used to help stimulate flowering in adjacent/proximal specimens. So a ripening tomato on the vine will "chain react" and help the neighboring fruit to ripen as well.

While both Gibberellins and Auxins are important hormones for flower, theory says they won't actually induce flowering, and I have a feeling a whole lot more would happen to the plant if you were to spray these compounds. Auxin seems like an interesting candidate though, since it depends on which tissue it is concentrated in for the effect, perhaps if we could apply it to the buds in a mist, maybe it would somewhat promote fruit growth. However, I would be worried about spraying such a highly oxidized acid onto the delicate and tender pistils (likely we'd see burned hairs).

Interestingly, Auxin has a very similar chemical structure to the same exact compound that is the chemical basis for clonex rooting compound (indole-3-acetic acid versus indole-3-butyric acid), in fact it is an auxin. So, if I sprayed clonex rooting gel in a mist on the flowers? Would this help promote fruit growth? Not sure

I do know that what controls flowering is a protein, which has to come from the genetic material within the plant, and funneled toward the bud site. So I think PGR's are too broad of hormones for it to work, a very specific protein product is probably needed.

Nonetheless an interesting idea. Pretty sure if I sprayed auxin on the flowers it would burn the pistils

Giberellins is supposed to help signal that its time to flower (e.g., during the first two weeks your stems stretch), but not practical unless we wanted long spindly stems on the plant. I don't think it's quite as simple as a "spray-n-bloom" to bypass the lights, though that would be neat.

 

[Lester Freeman]

Hard to resist photographing them sometimes

The SD x NYCD x Chemdawg (seems to be staying in veg for the most part! )

Blackberry (force flowers)

Underdawg (force flowers)

Swiss Cheese (force flowers)

Jack Dawg (force flowers)

force flower group

 

[JohnnyBlaze]

They all look super happy my friend! Should have some tasty meds at the end.

 

[Lester Freeman]

Currently doing a 24-hour brew for a Dr. Earth Flower-Girl tea, which will be served to the force flowers first thing in the morning tomorrow. They are making really good progress, especially the Swiss Cheese (recall earlier in this journal I harvested a batch after only 40 days of flower and it turned out wicked good).

Veggie clones doing well, did some fimming the other day.

Stuff in natural flowering tent still flowering (except the SD variant). So we'll see what happens with that.

Back on the trail again

 

[NorCaliwood]

Been there Mister Freeman. My reveg's turned into some major branching. And the flowers hung around and became a moisture and a PM magnet. My girls were pretty big when I threw them out alittle too early. They were a mess. But I did have a purp's that just kept flowering the rest of the year. She didn't really thicken the buds it kind of ran, if ya know what I mean. Fox tailed away.
Been awhile, sorry I'm just not into the pc at the moment. Good to see your still busy as ever. And you know me, I got afew surprises growing in the 'back 40'. I'll update someday before they flower. JK Keepem Green

 

[Lester Freeman]

Been there Mister Freeman. My reveg's turned into some major branching. And the flowers hung around and became a moisture and a PM magnet. My girls were pretty big when I threw them out alittle too early. They were a mess. But I did have a purp's that just kept flowering the rest of the year. She didn't really thicken the buds it kind of ran, if ya know what I mean. Fox tailed away.
Been awhile, sorry I'm just not into the pc at the moment. Good to see your still busy as ever. And you know me, I got afew surprises growing in the 'back 40'. I'll update someday before they flower. JK Keepem Green

I am hoping for the best I might be able to force flower them at the end to turn them into something appreciable. But the current force flowers are occupying a lot of space

The next wave of veggies I'm gonna release should help, provided I can get 'em to veg a bit. Thanks for your insight brother, you've been with me since I first stumbled upon 420 Magazine, hope all is well in your world and all is well in the family.

 

[Lester Freeman]

Couple of close ups. Now that the flowers heads are "centralized" I have served the lovely Dr. Earth tea.

My favorite developing flowers at the moment are on the

Swiss Cheese

and the Underdawg

Trichome production has begun

 

[Radogast]

Sweet trichomes for this early

 

[Christine Green]

They are beautiful Lester!

 

[Lester Freeman]

Alright so I decided to make an addition to to the force flowers, since Blueberry has been going hard, I can fit it in. That way I'll atleast have a taste of what I just cloned.

Here are the vegging clones (of the 4 strains) in the light proof propagator

Here are the recently rooted SDx NYCD x Chemdawg (left) and the Blueberry x Santa maria (right)

Check out the structure and form on this Blackberry clone (Raspberry Cough x Black Domino)

Ok in the main tent, my current pride and joy has become the Sour Diesel X NYCD x Chemdawg sculpture. I've been training her, so far so good and not showing any signs of hard flower, so I'll be really happy if I could atleast get this one plant to keep vegging throughout.

Here are the other 2 plants in the tent that are naturally flowering on their own accord.

Jack Dawg

Blackberry

That is all for now.