Radogast 2 - Return of the Clones

I'm getting concerned about my seedling size.


21 & 26 days old

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36 days old

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COorganics said:
Humic material: this is the foundation, the most important part of the equation. Don't cheap out or slack here. Your mix requires 1/3 quality humus. You can use finished composts, vermicompost, or leaf mold here. A bag of wiggleworm won't do it though. Quality is the key word. For those with out worms, buy some a really good compost and a really good vermicompost, use equal part of each for your 1/3 humus portion of your soil. Now, rado, if you did rake up and screen some leaf mold you are covering two bases there so you could only use VC and be just fine for humus in the soil without purchasing a compost in addition. For high quality bagged composts look at coast of Maine lobster compost or oly mountain fish compost or something similar. We want compost that doesn't use bio sludge or solids (like many cheap bagged composts use).

There is the base mix. As far as vermicompost goes, getting it locally would be cool, shipping is a bitch! Check Craigslist in your area for worm guys. This quick guide will help you find a solid source.

read this before buying EWC !!!!!! - Blogs - 420 Magazine ®
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Craig'slist has ONE worm farmer posted in the north east. Ugh.

I don't have much hope for locally sourced vermicompost. (Which is a very sad statement.)

It's there anything on amazon.com that looks possible? Our should I just go for a good compost?

Today was not a good day for finding worm castings.
 
I highly recommend Worm Power. Got mine from Build A Soil. A bit pricey, but it was a one-time expense that I was so impressed with I ordered another box. If you can find Coast of Maine compost locally I would recommend you grab some. In time you'll be supplying all that for yourself. Think of this as a jump start.
 
Sweetsue said:
I highly recommend Worm Power. Got mine from Build A Soil. A bit pricey, but it was a one-time expense that I was so impressed with I ordered another box. If you can find Coast of Maine compost locally I would recommend you grab some. In time you'll be supplying all that for yourself. Think of this as a jump start.
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Worm Power from build-a-soil. Noted.

I locked up Coast of Maine and they are being carried at all the "Trophy Gardening" stores.
You know, the ones that charge $150 for a single shepherd's hook and $80 for a basic birdhouse.

I think I might just go with Glamazon Prime and free shipping Coast of Maine.

I was thinking 10 x 10-gallon pots for about 12 cubic ft of mix.
I might just go for 4 x10-gallon pots at 5 cubic ft to start.
Since there is snow outside, I have to mix and mature the soil in my veg and flower rooms.
 
It's easy enough to do Rad, although you're doing lots more than I did. After a couple turns it smells wonderful.
 
Good morning Rado,

Here is a reasonable mail order source for rock dust type stuff.

https://www.rockdustlocal.com/store.html

I don't know what shipping would be, but this it's self is cheap!
Oyster Shell Lime (50 Lb)

Again they probably kill you with shipping here, but this is a fair deal.
Glacial Rock Dust (50lb) | Planet Natural

These are the things that would really be nice to drive to a store to pick up. Or if prime will ship them free, well maybe that's a good idea.

Also if you purchase lava rock for aeration, you also now have volcanic rock dust, (get out the hammer) which would be great in your soil mix.
 
Soil update:

After checking out various websites including the price of shipping 50lb bags of Gaia green glacial rock dust ,
I ordered the Large Box Nutrient kit -Clackamas Coot style (with minerals) from BuildASoil.
Also neem oil, TM-7 (humic acid), and 8 gallons of worm castings.

I'm planning to mix 7.5 cubic ft (48 gallons) of base soil.

My remaining soil shopping list is:
1.25 cu ft (8 gallons) Premium compost
2.5 cu ft (16 gallons) Lava rock
2.5 cu ft (16 gallons) Sphagnum Peat Moss
 
brightlight said:
Hey Rad. Biodiversity has good rep...I've used their humic acid that's darn good. Since you're an Oakland dude, you'd know their base....Grass Valley. I always thought bacteria multiply in teas not mycorrhizae, but at 1/4 tsp., can't hurt right?
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I remember Grass Valley.... didn't they used to have a lake?

I guess if mycorrhizae were that easy to multiply, they wouldn't be so expensive, right?
 
Im subscribed and caught up. Reading, learning, laughing and rooting for your lil darlins. :)
 
Radogast said:
Soil update:

After checking out various websites including the price of shipping 50lb bags of Gaia green glacial rock dust ,
I ordered the Large Box Nutrient kit -Clackamas Coot style (with minerals) from BuildASoil.
Also neem oil, TM-7 (humic acid), and 8 gallons of worm castings.

I'm planning to mix 7.5 cubic ft (48 gallons) of base soil.

My remaining soil shopping list is:
1.25 cu ft (8 gallons) Premium compost
2.5 cu ft (16 gallons) Lava rock
2.5 cu ft (16 gallons) Sphagnum Peat Moss
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There you go Rad. You won't regret it.
 
Add the myco to the soil instead of the tea. If I could have done it again I would have mixed myco into the top couple inches and planted. If your transplanting just sprinkle into the hole before dropping the plant in. They need roots to multiply.

Your temperature challenges may have held up your myco colony development in your current soil.
 
Agreed. Myco products are not for use in ACTs. It doesn't make any sense. I know you can read about people doing that but they are just confused. What we want is endo myco in our soil. All can agree there, (I think). Endo myco lives and grows in symbiosis with plant roots. There probably aren't any plant roots growing in your ACT, (although that's a cool thought). There is a specific fungi called tricoderma in many myco products (great white is a popular example). Tricoderma is a parasitic fungi, and one capable of growing in the absence of roots. Basically, it feeds off the good fungi in your soil. Tricoderma spores on their own are inexpensive to purchase. They also are in high concentration in comparison to the good endo myco spores, like the glomus variety, in products like great white.

So when folks are using great white (or similar) in teas, they are unleashing a shit ton of parasitic fungi on their soil. The tricky part is that tricoderma does function in symbiosis with the plant, and positive results can be seen. But it's a confusing and expensive error, as folks are intending to add endo myco fungi to their soil, and paying big bucks to try to accomplish this goal.

I think I may have referred to great white as a "tricoderma product with a built in myco lunchbox" on my other thread.

My 2cents.
 
This was why my soil didn't get inoculated until it was already growing. I had ordered a myco product with trichoderma in it and didn't want to let it loose in my soil mix, so I ordered one that didn't have it included. It's really devious how they do that.
 
Sorenna said:
Im subscribed and caught up. Reading, learning, laughing and rooting for your lil darlins. :)
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Welcome Serena. As the fishermen say, you should have seen my last grow!
I learned a bit about what NOT to do this time, but ...
I'm mostly still scratching my head about how plant after plant gets a good start and then stalls.
It ain't normal.

Today is imbolc/candlemas: a day when the year returns to newborn animals and fertile growth.

I think I'll go visit the altar and have a good talk with ancestors about improving the juju.

Anyway Serena, you and your comments are welcome. :)
 
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