Queen's Sophmore Grow F - Lemon Skunk - Big Bang - Along With Some Bag Seed Sprouts

[Mark Green]

Re: Queen's Sophmore Grow F - Lemon Skunk - Big Bang - Along With Some Bag Seed Sprou

I use cal/mag + works great, I start with 2.5ml and work up to 7ml to a gallon or water.

 

[QueenTokelove]

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I use cal/mag + works great, I start with 2.5ml and work up to 7ml to a gallon or water.

Yep, that is just what I ordered too. And do you give this with every feeding or with watering or it doesn't matter?

 

[Mark Green]

Re: Queen's Sophmore Grow F - Lemon Skunk - Big Bang - Along With Some Bag Seed Sprou

I just add it to the nute solution, and then flush/water with out it.

 

[ggrant]

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Mark said:

I use cal/mag + works great, I start with 2.5ml and work up to 7ml to a gallon or water.

Thanks, Mark. I haven't used CalMag myself and wasn't sure of the dose. Until the problem resolves itself, I would recommend using the CalMag with every watering, both when you make up your nute mix and also to any "plain" water you use to water them.

Remember, at this stage, every time you add calcium, the coco will try to bind with it, so you need to have some calcium in all the water you use until she's healthy.

Also since you're getting CalMag, add that to your foliar spray as well, i.e., foliar spray should have 1/4 stregth nutes and some CalMag.

Not sure of the strength for the CalMag for foliar feeding. I might have the concentration somewhere. Mark, do you know the strength for foliar feeding? Is it on the bottle?

 

[Mark Green]

Re: Queen's Sophmore Grow F - Lemon Skunk - Big Bang - Along With Some Bag Seed Sprou

I normally do not foliar feed, so I do not have any experience using it that way...
I did just go read the bottle, and all it says is to use with every watering/feeding.
Recommended at 5ml per 4 liters of water. Aggressive strength 10 ml per 4 liters of water.
My guess would be 1/4 strength so about 1-1.5ml per gallon... but idk.

 

[Truth Seeker]

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Wow, thanks Ggrant. I believe someone told me about CalMag before and the dolomite lime, now that you mention it. I remember asking where to get CalMag from. I will definitely check out the dolomite lime. So once I acquire this then I will probably mix with the coco in their pots and add it to some coco I have left in my bucket. I honestly forgot about the CalMag and dolomite lime. I will also check out that link.

Whats good QTL!!!

Hey just a heads up!!! Corey advised me against using the dolomite, he had told me that once you have it in the soil then it is hard to get it back out!!! if this is the same for the coco, i don't know... I would ask him about that before trying anything!!!

just a suggestion!!!

 

[Truth Seeker]

Re: Queen's Sophmore Grow F - Lemon Skunk - Big Bang - Along With Some Bag Seed Sprou

I normally do not foliar feed, so I do not have any experience using it that way...
I did just go read the bottle, and all it says is to use with every watering/feeding.
Recommended at 5ml per 4 liters of water. Aggressive strength 10 ml per 4 liters of water.
My guess would be 1/4 strength so about 1-1.5ml per gallon... but idk.

when I was having deficiencies I had done a foliar feeding and it helped clear it up!!! you shouldn't do it more than 1- 2 times a week!!! Just mist the plants when they are in VEG ONLY!!! never do this in flower!!! you run the risk of getting bud mold!!! never a good thing!!!

 

[420inOregon]

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Im a new member and on my first grow. I keep hearing about this coco what is it? I didnt get caried away with all the hype with buying all the rockwool,coco,and all the un-nessary stuff. The coco Im always hearing problems with nute lock, and so forth.
Im not nocking anyone I just think they do fine in dirt and it dont have to be fox farms at 20.00 dollars a bag. Try using dirt from your local forest products. A place were you take tour shrubs yard debrea. Usally they compost out of it and they also have the NPKs on it. This is what I used and sprused up.
QTL I didnt meen to impose Or be out of line.I just dont know why people get caught up with all the hype and most exspensive stuff. I use to work in a Botanical Garden so I been around the garden a time or two. But like I said Im a newbee.
I will show you pics if you like im 42 days into flower.

 

[QueenTokelove]

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Aston, Mark,and Ggrant--Well if I am getting the CalMag, I really don't need to worry about the dolomite lime then right? And yep, I have only been spraying the plants that are in veg. I believe you told me this before, Aston. I figured I would need to dilute the CalMag when first feeding? Or just with foliar spray? I think I was foliar feeding like 2 to 3 times a week. Thanks for that heads up. I think I am in that over loving stage. It seems to happen to me once I have plants that go into flower...My eyes become glazed over and glossy, a kinda joker smile on my face..lol

420--Coco coir is made from the husks of coconuts, that's all I know. Someone can give you a better definition. I made the transition from soil to coco because a fellow forum member thought I would like it better than soil. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem getting my hands dirty but for me using coco has less issues than soil. And it seems to me that any issue that does happen with coco can be easily corrected. I have seen the difference in my grows since using coco. As they say to each their own, not saying with an attitude but just saying. I don't think you're being out of line at all. I value all opinions and you are welcome to voice yours here like anyone else.

 

[Mark Green]

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I agree to each there own, I have tryed coco was not a big fan. Never going to knock it but it was not for me and the way I was growing at the time. However have you seen some of the coco grows on this fourm?? Wow there great! Most people seem to really love the coco. I might try it again one day.

 

[ggrant]

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Aston420 said:

Hey just a heads up!!! Corey advised me against using the dolomite, he had told me that once you have it in the soil then it is hard to get it back out!!! if this is the same for the coco, i don't know... I would ask him about that before trying anything!!!

Who the F**K is Corey?

I totally agree, by the way, Aston, that you should NOT foliar spray during flowering. Absolutely!

once you have it in the soil then it is hard to get it back out!!!

Aston:

That's the whole idea !!!!!!!​

Coco needs a permanent preventative against calcium deficiencies. If this were a soil grow, then, yes, the dolomite would be permanently in the soil and you might not want this. You would only use CalMag only until the problem was corrected.

However, Coco Coir needs to have a permanent source of calcium available. The choice is to either use CalMag every time you water or add something that will permanently supply a low dose of calcium. The best choice for this is ...............

wait for it

Dolomite Lime​

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[Truth Seeker]

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Aston420 said:


Who the F**K is Corey?

I totally agree, by the way, Aston, that you should NOT foliar spray during flowering. Absolutely!



Aston:

That's the whole idea !!!!!!!​

Coco needs a permanent preventative against calcium deficiencies. If this were a soil grow, then, yes, the dolomite would be permanently in the soil and you might not want this. You would only use CalMag only until the problem was corrected.

However, Coco Coir needs to have a permanent source of calcium available. The choice is to either use CalMag every time you water or add something that will permanently supply a low dose of calcium. The best choice for this is ...............

wait for it

Dolomite Lime​

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now i'm not a coco grower nor will I presume that I know what I am talking about with the coco!!! I was saying towards soil, it is not recommended due to it not being able to get out if the pH goes to high!!!

And Corey is the Commanding Officer of the BPN Army!!! I am the Lieutenant of the Army!!! thanks for asking!!!

 

[ggrant]

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Sorry, QTL,

I forgot to add something about foliar spraying.

Well if I am getting the CalMag, I really don't need to worry about the dolomite lime then right?

If you are going to use the CalMag every time you water, then you don't need the dolomite lime. I'm not sure of the price of the CalMag. If it's not very expensive and if you remember to use it every time, then that's fine.

Personally (and I am going to buy some over the weekend), I would go with the dolomite lime. One application and "worries be gone!" (Although I would still keep a bottle of CalMag available in case the coco overwhelms the dolomite.

I figured I would need to dilute the CalMag when first feeding? Or just with foliar spray?

No, No, No, Nanette!​

Never use any supplement you buy for your plants at full strength! I guess there are exceptions, but the idea of these supplements is to be very concentrated so that they can be shipped in small-sized bottles. Always dilute the supplement (nutes, CalMag, Epsom Salts) you use to the recommended dosage.

Whatever brand you get, dilute according to the manufacturer's instructions.

For instance, with Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus, you would use 1 tsp per gallon with any water you use. There is an accelerated formual of 2 tsps per gallons. This is to "punch up" a dose for faster results. Since whatever you use with coco gets flushed out pretty quickly, some growers like to use a stronger dose on the first application to quickly get things back to normal.

If you haven't used a particular supplement before, I think it's best to stay with the recommended dosage. If it's something you've used a lot with no adverse results, then you might want to try the acclerated dosage.

I couldn't find any specific dosages for CalMag in a foliar spray except the usual 1/4 strength for foliar feeding. This would translate to 1/4 tsp per gallon for foliar feeding. Mark has already suggested this.

As to whether to use CalMag exclusively or Dolomite Lime with CalMag as a backup is, as you so eloquently stated,

Chacun à son goût​

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[QueenTokelove]

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Thanks Ggrant for the great information as usual. I can't believe it would actually be better to use the dolomite lime. I am not doubting you just surprised by this. Maybe next time I will get it when I get some more coco. The CalMag is definitely better than nothing at all and I want my babies to be healthy as can be. Yeah, that would be the plan to use with each watering. Was just gonna mix it in with their nutes.

I wanted to post some pics of the purpling but for some reason I am not seeing anyone's pics on the site. I just upgraded my browser so once I figure out what is going on, I will.

 

[Truth Seeker]

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you went to IE9 didn't you???

LOL... I use Google Chrome, it loads this place faster than I can type!!! well thats not really a good basis of comparison... um... faster than a Porsche gets 0 - 60... thats better I guess!!! LOL

 

[QueenTokelove]

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you went to IE9 didn't you???

LOL... I use Google Chrome, it loads this place faster than I can type!!! well thats not really a good basis of comparison... um... faster than a Porsche gets 0 - 60... thats better I guess!!! LOL

No, I don't use IE at all. I usually use google chrome but had been using Webfreer. It's been bugging me to update then when I do, I can't see no damn pics anymore. I am clueless about now.

 

[ggrant]

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Hey QTL!

Just wanted to clear up a few things.

I can't believe it would actually be better to use the dolomite lime. I am not doubting you just surprised by this.

It's not better. CalMag and Dolomite Lime are equally effective. If it sounded like the latter was better than the former, I was showing a personal bias. I don't like to do anything more than necessary.

Yes, it's true, Queenie - and this is in strictest confidence just between you and me, so please don't tell any one else:

Men are just plain lazy!​

If I use Dolomite Lime (remember it's the latter not the former), I only have to use it once: when I mix my soil, i.e., coco and Dolomite Lime.

If I use CalMag (remember it's the former not the latter), I have to use CalMag every time I water my babes.

The CalMag is definitely better than nothing at all

The CalMag is much better than nothing at all. It is exactly as efficacious (is that a word, or did I just make it up?) as Dolomite Lime.

P. S. I use Internet Explorer 8.0 most of the time because I've removed the annoying add-ons, but I also have Mozilla FireFox. This is a free browser. It's the bastard child of Netscape Navigator. It may be before your time, but Netscape Navigator was the original web browser. Unfortunately, the folks who made it expected people to pay for it.

Imagine the nerve of Netscape: expecting people to pay them just so they could pay their employees and fund the research necessary to constantly improve their product. Any yes, take home a little pocket change in the process as well! After all, that's the American way, isn't it?

But Microsoft came into the picture with Internet Explorer. It was free. They included it with their operating systems. Netscape claimed Microsoft was doing it so that they could control the Gateway to the Internet. It was argued in court but, like most things in American Justice, if if you have enough money, you can either win the case outright or delay the verdict long enough to render it irrelevant. Microsoft did the latter, not the former. But that's the American way, isn't it?

There is a community of people who continually improve FireFox and they even accept donations, but it has always been free. Therefore, there is no incentive to add a bunch of extra crap that users don't need. But Mozilla FireFox is still a quality product, probably better than Internet Explorer. But most people still use Internet Explorer (the latter, not the former) rather than Mozilla FireFox (the former, not the later).

Me, included!

Let me summarize:

Mozilla FireFox Good - Me Like !​

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[QueenTokelove]

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I swear I look forward to seeing your posts, Ggrant. I love your responses. Oh yes, I do remember Netscape. And the nerve of trying to make us pay for their service. Good riddance to them. I use to use Firefox but then it started giving me problems so I kicked it's ass to the curb. IE's ass was already to the curb that's what made me start using Firefox. When FF started acting up, it got fired and replaced by Google. But I only used webfreer because it was suppose to make your internet use hard to track. Anyone know anything about webfreer?

 

[Truth Seeker]

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never heard of it!!! I am going to have to PM you on this!! TOS you know!!!

 

[QueenTokelove]

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Good lawd, did I violate again by mentioning the browser? This is becoming a bit frustating because I have actually been reading the forum guidelines. Actually early this morning, I was looking over them. I get to the point when I see a PM from a mod, the hairs on my neck start to rise. *In Miss Celie's voice*...Lord knows I am trying to follow the rules..I seem to learn them as I break them which is not a good thing but for some reason helps me to remember them...ain't that some shit!!! So, I will faithfully look at the guidelines at least once a day until I know them by heart.

I almost forgot to add the mini-update. Hey I smoked a doobie and been sipping on a margarita. It's me and the bf's anniversary today. Didn't want to go anywhere, just wanted to spend a nice quiet evening at home blazed and margaritas to mark the occasion. See, I am a low maintenance chick, the simple things mean a lot to me and makes me happy..As for the update, well, let's just say I can't wait for the CalMag to get here. All I have been doing is pulling off yellow leaves from the bottom of the plants. Coco was dry so I gave them water. Will give nutes with CalMag when it gets here. Temp and humidity has been staying on point. I also think that when the CalMag gets here, I will also pull them out their pots and trim their roots. A lot of their roots are starting to peek out from the bottom of the pots. I rather traumatize them all at one time than doing it more than once, if that makes sense. The clones are still looking good after transplanting them to larger containers.