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Producing Feminized Seeds Using Colloidal Silver
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Granny420
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I think I see something...
Best wishes!
NotaDrinker
YES!!!! And such a WONDERFUL LOOKING PLANT!! What strain??????
I am seeding my purple with a few things... the strain it came from (auto Blue Himalaya), the auto Cream Caramel, and the auto Mazar.
CONGRATS - YOU GOT BALLS!!! LOL!!! Thanks for sharing that beauty!!!
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OG13Hope you had a happy new year too!!!!!!
Mataro Blue smoke report - You got it Honey!!! I am so looking forward to this one. It has been a treat to watch this one grow. The buds are real dense and heavy, and it is extremely saturated and was early on. Mine (2 plants) are at 10 weeks and 3 days in flower and I have had to give them support. I am not seeing the color changes that is said to happen in this plant yet, but hope the next 2 weeks will show a lot of difference. Leaves are still in good shape and trichs are mostly clear with some cloudy... so on we go with them... This is a beautiful strain to grow.
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UPDATE on all Strains...
I don't have much time for taking and editing pics, but much is repeat at this point anyway. I am pretty darn sure a few strains have been pollinated...
These three have tops on the top of the plant and sacs on the bottom and it worked wonderfully to pollinate the single plant.
1) Auto Himalaya Blue Diesel
2) Auto Kush (didn't toss that one - may have hermie traits)
3) Auto Mazar
Although I believe they are pollinated, I have not removed all the sacs from the lower portion of the plants yet. Most pistils turned brown after the pollination, but if they pop back out in the next week or so, I'll hit em again.
Two auto plants were sprayed entirely for about 4 weeks, but did still have a few mid-upper areas with new pistil growth after I stopped spraying. The female counterparts I hoped to pollinate were started at the same time. THIS WAS A MISTAKE WITH AUTO STRAINS. I did this because I only had 2 seeds and wanted to make sure both sprouted before spraying one of them. But because these are autos, I had no control over when the waiting females flowered and they are finishing now. These are:
4) Auto Blueberry
5) Auto Cream Caramel
I have already harvested the Auto Blueberry in waiting and the waiting Auto Cream Caramel is going soon. Both are way flowered and I don't believe I can keep them going long enough for viable seed. Fan leaves are dying quickly and the plant is more than ready to harvest.
But... I believe the treated plant of both those strains is making seed within itself, as a hermie does. The auto blueberry I am just about positive is, but the auto cream caramel only has a couple places that may be doing this. I pictured the auto blueberry the other day, but will repeat that picture here...
Some pods are still opening into pollen sacs, but others seem to be getting pollinated, as I tried to show in the above picture.
I sure hope the treated plants create some seed for me, because otherwise I have no females for them of their own strain. Today I used some cream caramel pollen to pollinate a couple branches on that pretty purple plant I have. The cream caramel female that is finishing has a ton of red going on, so it might be a nice cross. I do strongly believe these treated plants will grow a few seeds in the end tho, so that would definitely be "selfing" these strains.
6) The auto Widow Ryder did not start flowering until well into CS treatment and I quit spraying the top half part way through. The pollen sacs on that one are not opening yet but I believe this plant will do it all within itself without much aide from me. I LIKE THIS. The top half of the plant is flowering very nicely and has a mixture of bud, nanas, and sacs on a number of branches, as I pictured the other day and will repeat here...
The last two I *think* I have listed in this journal are regular strains (NOT auto flowering).
7) Ladyburn 1974
8) Pineapple Chunk
These 2 regular strains have a mixture of bud and sacs going on in the upper-mid sections of the plants also. I do have females in waiting for these, they are small (mainly single cola) clones I put to flower about 2 weeks AFTER I stopped spraying these treated plants. I have pollinated the Pineapple Chunk and believe it took (all pollinated buds have browning hairs, while unpollinated buds do not)... and the Ladyburn is just now beginning to crack sacs, so she'll get it when she opens them.
and I have other regular strains going, started at later points...
9) Mataro Blue
10) Vanilla Kush
11) Trainwreck
12) Aurora Indica
13) Red Dragon
So I am doing a heck of a lot of pollinating!!! And I still have G13 Haze, Master Kush, Afghan Kush Special, Papaya, Pre-Bubba ... confidential cheese (free seed), auto thunder bloody mary (I crossed with my auto Mazar and it is partially seeded now), rocklock (free seed), and I don't know what else!!! Not all are started yet - but most are!!!
I do really like the plants that I treated 1/2 of the plant. The buds at the top are perfectly timed to go with the pollen release at the bottom.
I am also really liking the Widow Ryder and the strains that have both buds and sacs/nanas going within the same buds. I feel they will just pollinate themselves and I won't have to do a thing accept grow the plant out.
If you keep spraying until all pistils (hairs) have died, you will create a plant that has NO CHANCE at self-pollinating, but you will have a crapload of pollen sacs to collect from.
If you spray ONLY until you start seeing sacs and new pistils continue to sprout AFTER you finish spraying, you will have a better chance of just self-pollinating that plant.
So I guess how you go about the CS treatment depends upon your individual needs.
I will take go some pics of pollinated buds versus unpollinated buds for those who don't quite understand (have some pineapple chunk showing this clearly today), but I will have to upload them when I have more time... cuz today, I am out of time!!!
LUVIES TO ALL!!!
I don't have much time for taking and editing pics, but much is repeat at this point anyway. I am pretty darn sure a few strains have been pollinated...
These three have tops on the top of the plant and sacs on the bottom and it worked wonderfully to pollinate the single plant.
1) Auto Himalaya Blue Diesel
2) Auto Kush (didn't toss that one - may have hermie traits)
3) Auto Mazar
Although I believe they are pollinated, I have not removed all the sacs from the lower portion of the plants yet. Most pistils turned brown after the pollination, but if they pop back out in the next week or so, I'll hit em again.
Two auto plants were sprayed entirely for about 4 weeks, but did still have a few mid-upper areas with new pistil growth after I stopped spraying. The female counterparts I hoped to pollinate were started at the same time. THIS WAS A MISTAKE WITH AUTO STRAINS. I did this because I only had 2 seeds and wanted to make sure both sprouted before spraying one of them. But because these are autos, I had no control over when the waiting females flowered and they are finishing now. These are:
4) Auto Blueberry
5) Auto Cream Caramel
I have already harvested the Auto Blueberry in waiting and the waiting Auto Cream Caramel is going soon. Both are way flowered and I don't believe I can keep them going long enough for viable seed. Fan leaves are dying quickly and the plant is more than ready to harvest.
But... I believe the treated plant of both those strains is making seed within itself, as a hermie does. The auto blueberry I am just about positive is, but the auto cream caramel only has a couple places that may be doing this. I pictured the auto blueberry the other day, but will repeat that picture here...
Some pods are still opening into pollen sacs, but others seem to be getting pollinated, as I tried to show in the above picture.
I sure hope the treated plants create some seed for me, because otherwise I have no females for them of their own strain. Today I used some cream caramel pollen to pollinate a couple branches on that pretty purple plant I have. The cream caramel female that is finishing has a ton of red going on, so it might be a nice cross. I do strongly believe these treated plants will grow a few seeds in the end tho, so that would definitely be "selfing" these strains.
6) The auto Widow Ryder did not start flowering until well into CS treatment and I quit spraying the top half part way through. The pollen sacs on that one are not opening yet but I believe this plant will do it all within itself without much aide from me. I LIKE THIS. The top half of the plant is flowering very nicely and has a mixture of bud, nanas, and sacs on a number of branches, as I pictured the other day and will repeat here...
The last two I *think* I have listed in this journal are regular strains (NOT auto flowering).
7) Ladyburn 1974
8) Pineapple Chunk
These 2 regular strains have a mixture of bud and sacs going on in the upper-mid sections of the plants also. I do have females in waiting for these, they are small (mainly single cola) clones I put to flower about 2 weeks AFTER I stopped spraying these treated plants. I have pollinated the Pineapple Chunk and believe it took (all pollinated buds have browning hairs, while unpollinated buds do not)... and the Ladyburn is just now beginning to crack sacs, so she'll get it when she opens them.
and I have other regular strains going, started at later points...
9) Mataro Blue
10) Vanilla Kush
11) Trainwreck
12) Aurora Indica
13) Red Dragon
So I am doing a heck of a lot of pollinating!!! And I still have G13 Haze, Master Kush, Afghan Kush Special, Papaya, Pre-Bubba ... confidential cheese (free seed), auto thunder bloody mary (I crossed with my auto Mazar and it is partially seeded now), rocklock (free seed), and I don't know what else!!! Not all are started yet - but most are!!!
I do really like the plants that I treated 1/2 of the plant. The buds at the top are perfectly timed to go with the pollen release at the bottom.
I am also really liking the Widow Ryder and the strains that have both buds and sacs/nanas going within the same buds. I feel they will just pollinate themselves and I won't have to do a thing accept grow the plant out.
If you keep spraying until all pistils (hairs) have died, you will create a plant that has NO CHANCE at self-pollinating, but you will have a crapload of pollen sacs to collect from.
If you spray ONLY until you start seeing sacs and new pistils continue to sprout AFTER you finish spraying, you will have a better chance of just self-pollinating that plant.
So I guess how you go about the CS treatment depends upon your individual needs.
I will take go some pics of pollinated buds versus unpollinated buds for those who don't quite understand (have some pineapple chunk showing this clearly today), but I will have to upload them when I have more time... cuz today, I am out of time!!!
LUVIES TO ALL!!!NotaDrinker
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I am hoping those are the beginnings of seeds...
And that is a FI aka Fucking Incredible that is purple
And that is a FI aka Fucking Incredible that is purple
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UPDATE: POLLINATION BEFORE/AFTER PICS...
Okay, I took the pics and decided there are only a few so I could quick upload them. This will be a simple and quick update featuring pictures of what a bud looks like AFTER it is pollinated...
This is the Pineapple Chunk female in waiting... a small plant with one main purpose... to give me female seeds. It is a clone taken from the same plant as the Pineapple Chunk clone I treated came from - so it should have the exact same genetics as the pollen.
The tag visible above marked the first pollination on 12/28/11 with fresh pollen on one branch, but then I pollinated all but one of the top buds and a few buds down on each branch on 12/30/11 with the dried pollen from the 28th. I pollinated again today with dried pollen taken on 12/30, but believe this plant already took.
Here is a pic of buds NOT pollinated - this is exactly what ALL buds looked like when I pollinated...
And now a couple pics of POLLINATED buds from the upper area... a top bud that looks completely pollinated...
and a lower bud that looks *mostly* pollinated (has a couple hairs with no changes) - which basically means the same thing that "mostly pregnant" means!!! LOL
I think this gives a good visual of the changes that take place very quickly after a successful pollination. The first plants I did (auto blue himalaya) with male pollen changed to brown within a few hours of pollinating them, as have a couple of these current strains. However, the Pineapple Chunk pictured above still didn't look pollinated at 24 hours, but by 48 hours (yesterday) it was clearer... and today these pics were taken.
I can't take pics of actually pollinating, but feel if you have the pollen collected (as I pictured a bit ago) it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to dip a q-tip or paint brush in it and to then "tap" it gently over the bud you are pollinating. If the lighting is right behind the bud, you can see the pollen flow out of the q-tip upon tapping.
Even when the sacs have been open wide for me (and some looking dead and dried), the fresh pollen doesn't always like to exit from the sacs real easily. If it does release easy (dried well), I use the fresh and it easily taps off the q-tip for me... however, more times than not, these open sacs don't seem to want to release the pollen and it's moister when fresh and sticks to the q-tip instead of tapping off easily.
Thus, I find it easier to remove the opened sacs and let them sit for 2 to 3 days, marked with the date and strain, and left in a cool, dry, dark place. Then the inner "nanas" are drier and release the pollen easily after drying for a couple days. I use a magnifying glass with a light and a 5x lens to see the pollen in my plastic container. I squish the dried material a bit, then shake the container, and wahlah there is plenty of pollen to run my q-tip through and when dry it taps off like tiny dust onto the waiting female bud.
Don't know if I explained that very well... but I tried!!! Catch ya in a few days everyone!!!
LUVIES TO ALL!!!
Okay, I took the pics and decided there are only a few so I could quick upload them. This will be a simple and quick update featuring pictures of what a bud looks like AFTER it is pollinated...
This is the Pineapple Chunk female in waiting... a small plant with one main purpose... to give me female seeds. It is a clone taken from the same plant as the Pineapple Chunk clone I treated came from - so it should have the exact same genetics as the pollen.
The tag visible above marked the first pollination on 12/28/11 with fresh pollen on one branch, but then I pollinated all but one of the top buds and a few buds down on each branch on 12/30/11 with the dried pollen from the 28th. I pollinated again today with dried pollen taken on 12/30, but believe this plant already took.
Here is a pic of buds NOT pollinated - this is exactly what ALL buds looked like when I pollinated...
And now a couple pics of POLLINATED buds from the upper area... a top bud that looks completely pollinated...
and a lower bud that looks *mostly* pollinated (has a couple hairs with no changes) - which basically means the same thing that "mostly pregnant" means!!! LOL
I think this gives a good visual of the changes that take place very quickly after a successful pollination. The first plants I did (auto blue himalaya) with male pollen changed to brown within a few hours of pollinating them, as have a couple of these current strains. However, the Pineapple Chunk pictured above still didn't look pollinated at 24 hours, but by 48 hours (yesterday) it was clearer... and today these pics were taken.
I can't take pics of actually pollinating, but feel if you have the pollen collected (as I pictured a bit ago) it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to dip a q-tip or paint brush in it and to then "tap" it gently over the bud you are pollinating. If the lighting is right behind the bud, you can see the pollen flow out of the q-tip upon tapping.
Even when the sacs have been open wide for me (and some looking dead and dried), the fresh pollen doesn't always like to exit from the sacs real easily. If it does release easy (dried well), I use the fresh and it easily taps off the q-tip for me... however, more times than not, these open sacs don't seem to want to release the pollen and it's moister when fresh and sticks to the q-tip instead of tapping off easily.
Thus, I find it easier to remove the opened sacs and let them sit for 2 to 3 days, marked with the date and strain, and left in a cool, dry, dark place. Then the inner "nanas" are drier and release the pollen easily after drying for a couple days. I use a magnifying glass with a light and a 5x lens to see the pollen in my plastic container. I squish the dried material a bit, then shake the container, and wahlah there is plenty of pollen to run my q-tip through and when dry it taps off like tiny dust onto the waiting female bud.
Don't know if I explained that very well... but I tried!!! Catch ya in a few days everyone!!!
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I am hoping those are the beginnings of seeds...
And that is a FI aka Fucking Incredible that is purple
NotaDrinkerWhat a dufus I am!!! I thought that was a female pollen sac poking out after use of CS treatment (looked like my pollen sacs that have been popping out of the pods on my treated plants) - but evidently these are seeds in seed pods on an already fertilized plant??? Pardon me for my... blondness and dementia!!! LOL!!!
That is a Fucking Incredible looking plant!!!
NotaDrinker
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Indeed. This plant has been pollinated. I thought it looked similar to the formation of pollen sacs. Seems they develop from the same areas, as these tops were not treated with CS, but with the pollen it produced. I have counted no less than 20 which are developing slowly, and did not begin to show until after pollination.
I have never observed a seed being developed before, but I am hoping that it what it is. The coming weeks should allow them to mature and become viable if I am lucky.
Maybe I forgot to mention that I was well into my experiment when I stumbled upon this great thread.
Does it look like a seed being developed should look like?
I have never observed a seed being developed before, but I am hoping that it what it is. The coming weeks should allow them to mature and become viable if I am lucky.
Maybe I forgot to mention that I was well into my experiment when I stumbled upon this great thread.
Does it look like a seed being developed should look like?
Well My Granma passed away saturday night and I had to fly out of state to her funeral monday to be there for my Dad. Wont be back with my girls till thursday. This means there will be a 3 day period of no spraying after 6 or 7 days of spraying. When I get back I will see if the changes continued and will continue spraying. It is easy to become sort of obssesed with this plant, keeps me out of trouble. Jock Horror is Nirvana's copy / knockoff of Jack Herrer, heard good things about it.
NotaDrinker
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Ahh, that is never fun. Best wishes to you and yours.
Granma was 3 months shy of 100 years old. I hope I don't live that long. I am glad to see my father is taking it well, he is 81. I could handle bein 81 I guess. Now I am anxious to be back home. The main benefit of wick systems is being able to leave for a few days and not having to worry about them going dry or of pump malfunctions.
NotaDrinker
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Yeah, 80 is about as long as I would want to push it. Although, maybe not if my supply was stocked... Sometimes I just wish that I will be lucky enough to make it until my kids grow up. If I can live to see my children grow up, I will be a happy man.
Seeds are developing nicely. I assume they go from green to pale then to dark. It is difficult to find good pics of newly developing seeds in buds...
Have you got any from your previous seed experiments to show how the pods look while bearing seeds Granny?
Best Wishes to All.
Edit. Those are definitely seeds... Right?
They are getting darker, and they are everywhere
Seeds are developing nicely. I assume they go from green to pale then to dark. It is difficult to find good pics of newly developing seeds in buds...
Have you got any from your previous seed experiments to show how the pods look while bearing seeds Granny?
Best Wishes to All.
Edit. Those are definitely seeds... Right?
They are getting darker, and they are everywhere
Wingman420
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I'm sorry for your loss bro...you have my condolences.
God Bless you and the Family Dr.RedWhite. Hoping all is OK and sorry for your loss.
Although I have not read all of this journal the opening thread was a fasinating read and I even bookmarked it so I know I can find this journal. I am definately subbed and thank you so much for sharing this kind of journal.
Sprayed the Diesel again, she put out a lot of white hairs while I was away but there are still some affected parts that seemed to stay that way. I believe I will get some pollen for the Diesel cuts that I started flowering today along with an AKx White Widow and the aforementioned AKxSk#1. Thanks everyone, my hillbilly relatives are already fighting over the will. Thank God I don't live out there.
NotaDrinker
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I was expecting a 4 - 6 week incubation period before the seeds would be viable, and pollinated at week 4 of flower, so that puts me at 10 weeks of flower from CS to seed.
Does that sound like enough time for the seeds to develop? I am in week 2 since the CS phase, and seeds are forming fast. That puts me at another 2 - 4 weeks. How does all that sound?
And that is not the only plant I used CS on. The other is an unknown strain, and is also producing seed, but this ones prettier
Does that sound like enough time for the seeds to develop? I am in week 2 since the CS phase, and seeds are forming fast. That puts me at another 2 - 4 weeks. How does all that sound?
And that is not the only plant I used CS on. The other is an unknown strain, and is also producing seed, but this ones prettier
OG13
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I use 4-6 weeks from pollination till the seeds are done. You will know it when they start to fall from the calyx. If you leave them too long, they will all fall out into the soil. They should "look like a seed" nice and dark and be sort of loose in the calyx/easy to get out.
NotaDrinker, The seeds in that bud won't take 6 more weeks to finish, they may finish in 2 weeks. That plant is "selfed" meaning you used CS on it and those seeds are from the plants own pollen? Or did you make your pollen from another plant?