Perpetual Grow Among Other Things!

[VladimirPutin]

High F.E.
Glad to see your hydro system is still plugging along just fine! I like the changes since you started experimenting with the CES stuff.
In my opinion, feeding them N after the stretch isn't worth it. I'm just starting day 4 so I will know in 30 more days how much N my female shall be fed...
VI knows his stuff. I'm surprised he has not earned some kind of reward at 420 for being such a knowledgable internet personality swelling with info and maybe experience as well. Would like to see a journal some day Mr. Village

Keep it coming F.E.!

V

 

[Far East Buds]

High F.E.
Glad to see your hydro system is still plugging along just fine! I like the changes since you started experimenting with the CES stuff.
In my opinion, feeding them N after the stretch isn't worth it. I'm just starting day 4 so I will know in 30 more days how much N my female shall be fed...
VI knows his stuff. I'm surprised he has not earned some kind of reward at 420 for being such a knowledgable internet personality swelling with info and maybe experience as well. Would like to see a journal some day Mr. Village

Keep it coming F.E.!

V

Thanks Vlad I am Honored to have you frequent my thread comrade..
Yah VI is something else.. He has helped me alot and continues to. Honest and straight forward with stuff to back it up. Just followed his plan as I understand it and ditched the ph down except to make top off solution. Pulled some nute water out and adding PH only to drop the PH down and it brought PPM's down 100 pts to arond 900. Can easily boost ph and PPM with Silica as needed but if it stabilizes then I should be good with a large res. Went from 6.1 in flower down to 5.7 but will retest again in a bit. I hate that it was at 6.1 and three times i added ph down and it went back up or evened out enough. So I felt like all i did was add unneeded PPM's.
Still learning it but I think I get the just of it... Really loving the drip

OH my seeds popped serious roots from net pot a couple days ago. So 2 weeks or so from popped to roots in 5 inch net pots with hydroton with top feed. Boy the root structure on top feed is very good. Well so far I can say it is great for veg... Need to get some results on flower... TBD

So thank you for the visit comrade Be safe

FE

 

[Papageno]

@ vlad...

I used to grow a lot back in the 90's. I had a perpetual going 40+ plants back before there were places on the internet like this. There were a few books at select book stores. So to learn you had to learn about general plants stuff and then learn how cannabis was slightly different. So I have a horticulture background. Right out of college I had a roommate who was a friend in college who got his degree in horticulture. We grew for a few years together. Then we had to shut down.

Then I grew small time just for myself for a while but I was so in with people so high up the food chain in Norcal that I basically stopped growing around 2005. I moved back to Oregon at the time and just got my stuff through the mail 3-5 ounces at at time. So no need to grow. Top notch stuff, the best Cali had to offer, delivered to my doorstep.


A year and a half ago Oregon passed a law that we can grow our own. So I dug out my old personal grow lamp and started in again. I have since bought a whole slew of equipment and have a rather new setup I am still learning on. So I have by no means a consistent grow method at this time as all the equipment I have now is way better than I had in the 90's and way more sophisticated. I am still getting used to it. I am breaking in a new grow method for myself right now. I already know I messed up something in my compost that may make my next run a bit off the rails. But I know enough to make anything work really so I will make it through. When I get a decent program running again I will document it. But a lot has changed since the 90's. I am trying to take advantage of all the new stuff out there meaning I am enjoying being a novice again.

One big change is I always have trained but SCROG is not something I had never heard off back in the 90's. So I am learning that right now. I have made a few mistakes with it. So when I get my shit together I may post a journal. But then again I always say there are plenty out there and many better growers than me. If I do a journal it will be something like how to grow without using Chems or something like that. I am converting my technique and in a few grows I may have something worth sharing.

I don't need to go make a journal however because I don't need help and advice. I know what I am doing wrong.

But I took this pic about a week and a half ago of my current one as someone asked.

Single plant at 36" x 28"...Unknown freebie that came with my order.

So I still can get some decent weed...I have the knowledge. I don't have the time to baby them and I don't have a very good grow space to keep the temps and such controlled correctly. I got issues as I think most people do. But I can get it to the finish line without help.

 

[CCOiler]

I'm liking this new system you are running Far East Buds. There is always something to learn here.

 

[Far East Buds]

I'm liking this new system you are running Far East Buds. There is always something to learn here.

Thank you RS I am glad I keep it worth checking out. I certainly have changed a lot since I started. Only thing I still need to try is dirt.... NaH.....

Yah once dialed in I think this system is perfect for me as it is sooo flexible. You have followed me awhile so you know I don't keep MOM's I just reclone... So this system other than the cloner I don't need to set up new tubs etc. Just keep it all set up and add plants or subtract as needed. One res flower and One for Veg is easy to check the readings. There are draw backs. I am stuck on one schedule for feeding for veg and one for flower. As long as I can make that work great. Or i end up adding a third res.. So far trying just the two. I do want a very small top feed Res to use for plant flushing.... Also it feels awkward how easy it is to go check things now. I use to have to check alot of tubs readings. So it simplified it alot. and last I almost think I would go away for a few days and it would just do it's thing. Even more automated than my other setup due to the large Res's etc.

I am rambling as usual



FE

 

[Far East Buds]

@ vlad...

I used to grow a lot back in the 90's. I had a perpetual going 40+ plants back before there were places on the internet like this. There were a few books at select book stores. So to learn you had to learn about general plants stuff and then learn how cannabis was slightly different. So I have a horticulture background. Right out of college I had a roommate who was a friend in college who got his degree in horticulture. We grew for a few years together. Then we had to shut down.

Then I grew small time just for myself for a while but I was so in with people so high up the food chain in Norcal that I basically stopped growing around 2005. I moved back to Oregon at the time and just got my stuff through the mail 3-5 ounces at at time. So no need to grow. Top notch stuff, the best Cali had to offer, delivered to my doorstep.


A year and a half ago Oregon passed a law that we can grow our own. So I dug out my old personal grow lamp and started in again. I have since bought a whole slew of equipment and have a rather new setup I am still learning on. So I have by no means a consistent grow method at this time as all the equipment I have now is way better than I had in the 90's and way more sophisticated. I am still getting used to it. I am breaking in a new grow method for myself right now. I already know I messed up something in my compost that may make my next run a bit off the rails. But I know enough to make anything work really so I will make it through. When I get a decent program running again I will document it. But a lot has changed since the 90's. I am trying to take advantage of all the new stuff out there meaning I am enjoying being a novice again.

One big change is I always have trained but SCROG is not something I had never heard off back in the 90's. So I am learning that right now. I have made a few mistakes with it. So when I get my shit together I may post a journal. But then again I always say there are plenty out there and many better growers than me. If I do a journal it will be something like how to grow without using Chems or something like that. I am converting my technique and in a few grows I may have something worth sharing.

I don't need to go make a journal however because I don't need help and advice. I know what I am doing wrong.

But I took this pic about a week and a half ago of my current one as someone asked.

Single plant at 36" x 28"...Unknown freebie that came with my order.

So I still can get some decent weed...I have the knowledge. I don't have the time to baby them and I don't have a very good grow space to keep the temps and such controlled correctly. I got issues as I think most people do. But I can get it to the finish line without help.

Thank you for sharing all that VI. Good stuff right there... Explains why you are so knowledgeable... but you do a great job to spell it out and that is a skill that can't be taught. Thank you for that. I knew there had to be something more going on than just you grew alot. But it sounds like you did do that as well. anyway.. Thank you though for investing the time. knowing all that stuff is one thing... Sharing it is really good for the community here...and that is another... I am sad/glad you found stuff on my grow to correct. I am just not there yet.. But every cycle I get better. I feel like I am very close to running some 100% clean grows. I appreciate you helping me to get there...



FE

 

[VladimirPutin]

LOL mail order weed. I only saw it one time, a friend in Florida got a federal express package from california with huge dank perfect buds in it, like 3 oz or something... Of course he was showing it off "yippeee look at me I'm so awesomee!!" Then he left his apartment door open the same night when he got too high and fell asleep so his neighbor came in and took the mail weed!
He was quite a whiny little girl the next morning when he found the empty box on his coffee table, pointing fingers at level headed people like Vlad that would never engage in petty crime like theft.

I grow because all around me is guerrilla weed. I don't support Crime, even if the governments engage in shady activity all the time and it's okay. But that is about to change soon as medical cannabis was just approved to be regulated Nov. 2015 in Colombia.

Keep up the good work F.E. In flower try to keep PH around 5.8 according to Mr. Village and I've also heard that before from another resource.

V

 

[Papageno]

Yeah 5 oz doesn't fit in the group mail box so literally I had federal employees delivering me copious amounts of weed to my door step and they would ring the bell and smile and walk away. Now my wife and I easily put down an ounce in 3 weeks. So I was only buying 2 - 4 months of weed at a time because I didn't want the mail man coming to my house monthly. A few layers of vacuum sealed bags and you are in the clear.

Here is Oregon there are some places where outdoor growing is so abundant it is hard not to find it. My buddy said one summer the neighbor kids grew some just off his property. When it came time to harvest my buddy went out there and whacked them down and took them for himself. Now that is a heart break..but live and learn I guess.

 

[Papageno]

And for the most part 100% perfect grows are not common in small grows. People think they have done it only because they are not 100% knowledgeable of what they are doing wrong.

You need a professional setup that allows for controls that you can't do properly in a tent really. That includes overlapping lights set at a reasonable distance. There is only 1 tent I have seen that allows for that "properly". People will throw many lights in a tent but that doesn't mean the light overlap is correct. To do it right you really need to be in a dedicated room like this with some spendy controls and equipment.

A perfect grow is not necessary. I am an engineer and I say all the time..good enough is so good it is enough. That pic above of mine I did some major damage but it is supper tric covered and will be awesome. I have a new DE 1000W in there I have never used before this grow. I didn't realize how hot it was radiating and had some flowers started to hermi on me. I raised the light and cleaned out the bananas and the plant is fine and no seeds yet and no more male parts. So it is a "mess"...but I will get a pound of very potent stuff out of it. That will be good enough for me. Nothing great..nothing special...but it will be better than buying it and most of the plant (like 95%) didn't hermi at all and will be total wonderful. Since I only grow for myself and my wife I just need enough to get through to my next grow and I think I have done that. So that is a "successful" although pathetic run.

No need to journal that right? When I get my new equipment dialed and new grow style dialed I may share at that point. But again I used to grow a very different way. So much has changed (as far as what is available to use) that I don't need to work so hard up front making things like I used to. Much of it I still will do because it is still the best method but finding that middle ground between how I used to do it and using all the cool stuff available now will take me 4-6 grows I think. And that is just in soil. I go back and forth and do hydro once a year at least. My next Hydro I want to try a new method I have never tried before. I need to build that setup first. So who knows how well that will turn out...but I don't need to journal that and have a bunch of people subscribe to and watch me fumble through a brand new thing I have not done before. It wont help anyone...and I don't need help...I can diagnose what I am doing wrong just fine.

 

[Far East Buds]

And for the most part 100% perfect grows are not common in small grows. People think they have done it only because they are not 100% knowledgeable of what they are doing wrong.

You need a professional setup that allows for controls that you can't do properly in a tent really. That includes overlapping lights set at a reasonable distance. There is only 1 tent I have seen that allows for that "properly". People will through many lights in a tent but that doesn't mean the light overlap is correct. To do it right you really need to be in a dedicated room like this with some spendy controls and equipment.

A perfect grow is not necessary. I am an engineer and I say all the time..good enough is so good it is enough. That pic above of mine I did some major damage but it is supper tric covered and will be awesome. I have a new DE 1000W in there I have never used before this grow. I didn't realize how hot it was radiating and had some flowers started to hermi on me. I raised the light and cleaned out the bananas and the plant is fine and no seeds yet and no more male parts. So it is a "mess"...but I will get a pound of very potent stuff out of it. That will be good enough for me. Nothing great..nothing special...but it will be better than buying it and most of the plant (like 95%) didn't hermi at all and will be total wonderful. Since I only grow for myself and my wife I just need enough to get through to my next grow and I think I have done that. So that is a "successful" although pathetic run.

No need to journal that right? When I get my new equipment dialed and new grow style dialed I may share at that point. But again I used to grow a very different way. So much has changed (as far as what is available to use) that I don't need to work so hard up front making things like I used to. Much of it I still will do because it is still the best method but finding that middle ground between how I used to do it and using all the cool stuff available now will take me 4-6 grows I think. And that is just in soil. I go back and forth and do hydro once a year at least. My next Hydro I want to try a new method I have never tried before. I need to build that setup first. So who knows how well that will turn out...but I don't need to journal that and have a bunch of people subscribe to and watch me fumble through a brand new thing I have not done before. It wont help anyone...and I don't need help...I can diagnose what I am doing wrong just fine.

Love it! just Love the whole post....
I do the same just for me and wifey.. So yes it is from harvest to harvest and I now am a little ahead so I have been playing with BHO tinctures and vape mixtures etc.

I should have known better than to mean 100%... I just mean mostly... After starting to grow myself i realized even the high end smoke I was getting was not %100 clean runs. I just want some consistency. I don't see me regressing at all quite opposite every grow much smoother besides when I change stuff around. I understand a lot more than before.. better plan.. environment.

The last change around involved an upgrade to everything besides the lights.... I did start last year though with a diamond brand 400W Hps made in 1982 that took 10 minutes to ignite sometimes (YIKES!)

I run a 6x10 flower room (no more tent)
8x10 veg room... Separate only attached through a door and the fact flower room vents into veg room to help warm the veg room some... That upgrade came when I switched to Drip, Ces Nutes and added veg room on all at once.
Now I can dial in and hopefully get back my consistency as I hopefully will not be changing much for awhile.

Yah everything bigger is more stabile. I am realizing that. Big res ... more stabile things change slower and more calculated. bigger room... temps easier to manage.... not too big... but definitely noticed it.

Things are coming around. I now am back to reading my plants again which is a good sign. With all the crap going on with the switch I had no idea what was causing what for awhile there. Now things are much smoother and all look good.. Well.... Veg does... Flower is still getting dialed in a little.....but good as well...

Not everyone does threads.... You do amazing work in the 420community. I can attribute 90% of my growing knowledge to people like yourself. I would much rather you stop in and say hi or take the time to respond to my IM's than a thread. That being said if u ever test out cool stuff the people here would eat it up if you threaded it! I post all my stuff as i am still learning and as you see on my thread I post projects...growing .. making of cannibus related stuff... I figured someday If someone was just getting started they could read through and see how a true noob goes through the process...I have changed things several times now so I show what to do and not to do along the way.. lol. I needed people to help me along the way.

A thread from a advanced grower may have things they take for granted... I literally learned xxxxx last year... ok too embarrasing to say... lets just say I only have 8 months i guess now so true noobism.. ground zero last July. (besides 25 years ago in soil once?) So I needed to learn ALL of it... See my results are getting good I can ramble a looong time... And smoking I am a extremely advanced smoker

A big thanks from me and I am sure from the many others you have helped!



FE

 

[Papageno]

I replay to all my PM's...If ever you want me to look at something shoot me a PM with a link.


I am in a bunch of journals. I spend most of my time in there. When I find people with real serious problems I talk them into a journal and then walk them the long path home. I look for people who both need help and are not to arrogant to be helped and I will stay with them as long as they need it.

So I am subed here and I get on almost daily so I will be reading in here until you don't need my help anymore.



My next grow will not be standard. I am putting down unsexed seeds and I will be cloning them quickly and sexing them quickly, and finishing them off way early. I don't think that is good info to share...maybe it is.

 

[Far East Buds]

I replay to all my PM's...If ever you want me to look at something shoot me a PM with a link.


I am in a bunch of journals. I spend most of my time in there. When I find people with real serious problems I talk them into a journal and then walk them the long path home. I look for people who both need help and are not to arrogant to be helped and I will stay with them as long as they need it.

So I am subed here and I get on almost daily so I will be reading in here until you don't need my help anymore.



My next grow will not be standard. I am putting down unsexed seeds and I will be cloning them quickly and sexing them quickly, and finishing them off way early. I don't think that is good info to share...maybe it is.

Only you can know if you think it is worth sharing and what to. Probably if it is something useful maybe on a second run type of thing so bugs are kinda ironed out. If you wanted it to be an informative thing.

Yah you hooked me when i read alot of cc420's thread you walked him through. You used incredible patience and typed alot of good stuff.. Took effort and time... I notice that stuff... I hope to be able to be as useful someday. But of course yah some people don't want help or are not appreciative of it.

There is sooo many ways to grow and cannibus is really such a resilient plant that facts of the research aside( nute availabilty, temps.. the requirements.) It wants to grow and live. If you do things in what ever way it works for you and are in the ball park on requirements it will thrive but requirements are just that.

FE

 

[Papageno]

Exactly. You almost can't screw it up. You just need some patience and basic knowledge and you will get good weed. That is the good thing... but for forums it is also the bad thing. People grow for a year and have 3 grows under their belt and think they are an expert. Then come on here and tell me I am wrong.

Ok dude whateves... unsub... Cya.


Recently someone was asking about good seed for cloning and specifically if they could use femed. Another grower, who is awesome, explained how both femed and autos are bad genetics (I proven fact) and how in the end you get less weight. I backed them up and said a few more things (I did say however it is true you can use them but not a good idea). Then some yahoo comes on and wants to go off about how using Fems is fine and rants about how great they have done. Well both of us never said you couldn't just that it isn't as good. Then furthermore they went on to say they did it outdoors and got like a Quarter pound a plant ...well in my mind you just proved my point. I can get a pound a plant indoors. Outdoors I get a few pounds a plant. If you aren't getting a few pounds a plant outdoors you are a failure. A good grower can get like 5 pounds a plant outdoors. I had unsubbed and didn't respond. But the point is now the guy who posted the question has a pile of backed up poor data suggesting they should use shitty plant genetics for a long haul cloning program. That is what erks me. I don't care that someone argues with me and provides bad data. I am concerned some newb believes it.

Whateves...were all just a bunch of pot heads.

 

[Far East Buds]

Exactly. You almost can't screw it up. You just need some patience and basic knowledge and you will get good weed. That is the good thing... but for forums it is also the bad thing. People grow for a year and have 3 grows under their belt and think they are an expert. Then come on here and tell me I am wrong.

Ok dude whateves... unsub... Cya.


Recently someone was asking about good seed for cloning and specifically if they could use femed. Another grower, who is awesome, explained how both femed and autos are bad genetics (I proven fact) and how in the end you get less weight. I backed them up and said a few more things (I did say however it is true you can use them but not a good idea). Then some yahoo comes on and wants to go off about how using Fems is fine and rants about how great they have done. Well both of us never said you couldn't just that it isn't as good. Then furthermore they went on to say they did it outdoors and got like a Quarter pound a plant ...well in my mind you just proved my point. I can get a pound a plant indoors. Outdoors I get a few pounds a plant. If you aren't getting a few pounds a plant outdoors you are a failure. A good grower can get like 5 pounds a plant outdoors. I had unsubbed and didn't respond. But the point is now the guy who posted the question has a pile of backed up poor data suggesting they should use shitty plant genetics for a long haul cloning program. That is what erks me. I don't care that someone argues with me and provides bad data. I am concerned some newb believes it.

Whateves...were all just a bunch of pot heads.

ROFL i do totally get it... I had to tell a becoming decent friend of mine because he runs a hydro shop I don't believe all he says.. I told him I listen and i listen to others and use what works in my situation.

I was always under the belief that non fem are the best true genetics.. fems are less but decent... auto's the weakest but obviously easiest. Cant recall where when what I read it but makes sense.... All that being said if you do things right any of them can out perform the others if you nail the grow! That's what I want a box of Nails!

Outdoors is outdoors... there are bugs.. weather... seasons, people.. issue's.. but we are talking about the Sun... the thing every light company wants to emulate... If you can work through those hazards.. yah results are the greatest... I prefer the indoor climate controlled easier to manage grows...But the results on some outdoor grows are astounding!

Some people are just Asshats! Especially when behind a keyboard. And yes there are lots of people in the world who just happen to know it all even with little experience. We have all met them. You did the same as I would ... un sub .. bye bye.. lol. unless it wasnt their thread I guess... yah hate people to get wrong info when they are learning...

I was super lucky with the people that helped me through my first few grows...They did very well to ease me into it and walked me through some stuff probably at a decent pace for where I was at the time. Due to me wanted to try drip and play with other stuff more I managed to come across you and I think I am ready to learn the next level .. Class 201 now .. yippee..hehe I don't think I could have taken it in 6 months ago... That being said i am still reading and rereading the stuff.. It is sort of a different way to think of it in some areas'''

anyway ... Have a good night.. getting sleepy... zzzz

FE

 

[Papageno]

Yeah I agree mostly..I would just say one thing... (LOL)

I personally think autos are harder. This again is where knowledge outweighs experience. If you have no idea what you are doing you can grow an auto and as long as you don't overfeed you get a good set of nugs in a few weeks and think WOW this is great!

But with autos technically it starts bloom right away. So you have no time to mess up. In veg you can screw all kinds of things up and fix it then start bloom when the plant is ready and has a great root system. IN an Auto you don't want to trim it and let it go and can't make any mistakes. Furthermore you have to have a modified nute program that allows for Veg and Bloom at the same time.

Autos are actually quite complicated when you get down to brass tacks. But people commonly say they are easier. the only thing that is easy about them is you don't have to have a timer on your light. that is like the simplest thing in the grow. so you have eliminated the one thing non one can screw up.

So personally I think Autos are more difficult and should not be done by newbs and are only for outdoor growing.

If you start cloning you can get big clones to start blooming immediately and have the same life span of an auto with top line genetics and big yield. I just don't see the point of an auto indoors.

But most people will tell you autos are easier without understanding that they are immediately in bloom so any mistake reduces final yield dramatically. Think just about the root system. you have to really make sure they are growing as fast as possible to get decent yield from an auto with absolutely no missteps.

But hey I am in the minority on this opinion so I am probably wrong right

 

[Far East Buds]

Yeah I agree mostly..I would just say one thing... (LOL)

I personally think autos are harder. This again is where knowledge outweighs experience. If you have no idea what you are doing you can grow an auto and as long as you don't overfeed you get a good set of nugs in a few weeks and think WOW this is great!

But with autos technically it starts bloom right away. So you have no time to mess up. In veg you can screw all kinds of things up and fix it then start bloom when the plant is ready and has a great root system. IN an Auto you don't want to trim it and let it go and can't make any mistakes. Furthermore you have to have a modified nute program that allows for Veg and Bloom at the same time.

Autos are actually quite complicated when you get down to brass tacks. But people commonly say they are easier. the only thing that is easy about them is you don't have to have a timer on your light. that is like the simplest thing in the grow. so you have eliminated the one thing non one can screw up.

So personally I think Autos are more difficult and should not be done by newbs and are only for outdoor growing.

If you start cloning you can get big clones to start blooming immediately and have the same life span of an auto with top line genetics and big yield. I just don't see the point of an auto indoors.

But most people will tell you autos are easier without understanding that they are immediately in bloom so any mistake reduces final yield dramatically. Think just about the root system. you have to really make sure they are growing as fast as possible to get decent yield from an auto with absolutely no missteps.

But hey I am in the minority on this opinion so I am probably wrong right

No actually after you explaining it like that I do agree 100%
After maybe my second grow i realized i could beat the crap out of them in VEG but as soon as i went to 12/12 i mentioned any damage is irreparable. Just something I had caught on to. So when i think of an auto i was thinking easier.. but I knew the info you just organized it better for me...and explained it to me so i realize it. It is already flowering so yah of course no room for error from day 1... I have not done any auto's so I was only basing stuff on crap too.. no actual experience... Just alot of reading... but i have no real desire for them at this time.. so the majority of that research will be later... if i ever do...
Same as non fem seeds really... Only a few attempted runs with them and didn't like the results but horrible genetics. That being said "knowledge" wise .. alot of reading .. most seem to like non fem for real producers.... then clone the shit out of it.... I'll stick to fem's for now as most do and then someday when I get bored with fem grows i'll mess with crossing.. stuff like that.. fem's vs non's etc...


Just want that consistency back.... well honestly still seeking it for the first time really...

I never ever think i am 100% right... I am not sure there is such a thing in growing. I love criticism and to be questioned. That is learning. I have slow building experience in this. But truly knowledge in this will never stop really. I dont take offense to people setting me straight. I rather appreciate it. I post statements and etc hoping if it is dead wrong people will correct me. I have no large pride. I try to help the newest people but always tell them to seek other opinions and read about it and disclaimer my experience to them. People helped me alot early on and the issue's i had where so simple to correct for most. Most issue's people just need a nudge in a direction and thinking to find what they need on this forum. Sometimes i feel like i owe it to others to help with the little i can.. I appreciate you helping me have the right info to share. You explain it well...

Then hopefully they stumble on a thread like cc420's and then can dig in deeper.



FE

 

[Far East Buds]

Just some tid bits!

Just some tid bits!

So first off a rant.....

I was/am ready to drop the hammer on a bunch of new gear. Cash is sitting in the bank ready....
So I need(ed) 1-2 LED's and a new veg T5. Plus a flush bucket for flower (top feed with pump etc)


I did a fair amount of research before on LED's so I knew what choice I wanted. They are a non sponsor i believe so I will not post the name. So I have a hard time contacting them for pricing. But I do finally get in touch with them. Decide on two new LED's. I get the invoice and they neglected to tell me shipping cost was also a third as much as the light.. per light... They did mention a two week delay due to holiday over seas... but at that cost it should take another week to process when they get back and possibly several weeks to ship/ receive them.

Needless to say I will have to order them at a later date from them as I needed them before that. I am not bashing them as I did not name them but I am frustrated so I needed to vent.

I went with my second choice and have a Mars light already with good results. I was able to purchase two mars 400's for the price of almost what one of the "other " brand would have cost shipped. But I still am disappointed to not get the others.

So now that I said all that i will move forward and hopefully put behind me that situation and not look back.

So two LED's incoming for flower... a new 8 bulb 4 foot T5 for Veg.... BOOYAH!

I'll be all set up and done.... Able to flower 6 at a time with an over abundance of led's and space. Can't beat it!

Flush tank is made I used a 5 gallon bucket and have it all set up. I can simple move it near the plants being flushed and hook it up ... plug it in... It should be plenty big enough as I am only going to ever put PH'd water in it... Checked that one off the list...

T5 will be here in a few days.. the LED's i think a week... Just need them within 2 weeks or so at least. (SD and HG)

I am really excited for that stuff as it will help everything overall... and will be nice to just be done with all the set up.

My HPS 600 will back into storage for backup again. And my small T5 will as well so if I am in a light out sitch I have back ups is nice.

Pic's to come and I am over due for an update so I will try to get to that soon

Thanks for reading



FE

 

[Bamalabrat]

good going FE! I love getting new gear!

Hey FE, quick question, how did you like the results from using the fog machine in the cloner tub? Has it been super good? Thanks bro and have a great week.

 

[Far East Buds]

good going FE! I love getting new gear!

Hey FE, quick question, how did you like the results from using the fog machine in the cloner tub? Has it been super good? Thanks bro and have a great week.

Nice to hear from you Bama. Best results EVER! lol no really it did make a huge difference. But still run it DWC/Fogger as the density of the fog can starve the roots from oxygen. If you do better research than me and check what density it is ahead of time you may not need to run air as well but I added it after the fact and 6 -7 days to transplantable but 10 days was ridiculous roots. So i knocked 3-4 days off the times... Used nothing but PH'd 150 ppm added nutes water. Fog will cook it so make a little more than you need to start it up.


My latest adventure is the BEST ONE YET! I clip it off scrap the side and into 5 inch net pot with hydroton in it and run top feed. I have not looked for roots yet because I don't want to chance hurting it but one clone 5 days no wilting and another was just yesterday. Acting like they are still part of the plant still. Leaning toward light and everything. Full Veg nutes like the rest. Not a f in clue if they will take but hey I've killed some in less than 5 days so heck so far so good. I'd settle for 2-3 weeks if it works this easy.

If I wanted sure success though I will pop out the cloner again. My ACDC is growing very nice and when it gets big enough I will use fog to clone that one. Clones are stupid in cost and i have never seen or heard of seeds for it...

So yah fog is my true method. Top feed is my ultimate laziness test..



FE

 

[Bamalabrat]

lol thanks FE. I love it. I hope it works for you bro. I am def getting the fogger now. I thought last time I wouldnt need it, as I had 75% success. This time it was 25% success. Not the right direction. And it takes me 3-4 weeks to get to transplant. So, yeah the fogger is the way I will go now. I just remembered though, I plan on growing from seed next go round. IDK. I will decide after I get my seeds from CK. Anyway, thanks for answering. I am always checking out your grow btw. I just got busy as crap this year. Something in the water I guess. But I am always reading.